The Flaxseed Pathfinder Lodge: Explore, Report, Cooperate!

Game Master Tyranius

"now miss... as the ancestors cried at the orc horde.... 'don't judge a dwarf by his tale.'"

Any "sub-optimal" class can still be just as effective as the more popular, advanced classes.

I don’t mind people taking less optimal pathways, as long as they then don’t complain about not being able to do as much (or start bring a massive resource drain).

Everything is fun until someone is a liability to others.

It’s a team game and it’s expected you can contribute to the team, not hinder it.

I have a Level 1 Commoner hitting for 2d6+6, +6 to hit, 17 AC. Not quite up to snuff with a fully optimized Fighter, but he could pull his weight. He’ll have to wait for a non-PFS game to shine!

"If it pleases you, Ms Masked Lady-in-Red Venture-Captain who says 'DOOM.'" *bob*

"Mister Rhuul Irontoe is a dwarf and a bard that tells pirate jokes."

"Though apparently, he doesn't dance." :(

I don’t mind people taking less optimal pathways, as long as they then don’t complain about not being able to do as much (or start bring a massive resource drain).

Everything is fun until someone is a liability to others.

At that point you should turn on them, and kill them like a pack of rabid hyenas. They might have useful stuff. Better yet, get some use out of their hit points first. Shove them in front of threats. It's survival of the fittest after all.

It’s a team game and it’s expected you can contribute to the team, not hinder it.

Remember: your character doesn't have out-run the owlbear; just the slowest member of your party. ;)

^^ I think I almost swooned ^^

"now miss... as the ancestors cried at the orc horde.... 'don't judge a dwarf by his tale.'"

Any "sub-optimal" class can still be just as effective as the more popular, advanced classes.

Having GM'd for Rogar in Salvation of the Sages, I can vouch for this :)

Shifty wrote:

I don’t mind people taking less optimal pathways, as long as they then don’t complain about not being able to do as much (or start bring a massive resource drain).

Everything is fun until someone is a liability to others.

At that point you should turn on them, and kill them like a pack of rabid hyenas. They might have useful stuff. Better yet, get some use out of their hit points first. Shove them in front of threats. It's survival of the fittest after all.

I'm sure this was meant as a joke, but we do have new players asking questions here, and we don't want to give anyone the wrong idea. This is still Pathfinder Society play--no PvP, no stealing each other's stuff, no throwing your teammates to the wolves. Explore, Report, Cooperate.

But if they are a liability.... I mean fun, right? And who said anything about actually throwing PCs to wolves. It was an owlbear. Just one. All good, clean fun.

That, and every now and then because of lack of advertising skills and group planning you might end up being part of a four-PC team of frothing Charisma 5 dwarven armored hulk barbarian fanatics (or similar) sent on the mission to infiltrate the Archduke's ball and negotiate a far-reaching peace settlement in secret. While a group of Strength 5-7 pencil-neck arcananists attempt a month's long wild magic mountain climbing expedition into a long and twisty dungeon. Who is to say who the liability is then? Can it be fun to fail forward, or just frustrating? What's the GM's roll? The players? And in the end, whose fun is more important?

Well, mine obviously. ;)

...every now and then because of lack of advertising skills and group planning you might end up being part of a four-PC team of frothing Charisma 5 dwarven armored hulk barbarian fanatics (or similar) sent on the mission to infiltrate the Archduke's ball and negotiate a far-reaching peace settlement in secret...

In all seriousness, I hope that players are reading the scenario description before signing up! Why would you send your 5 Cha barbarian on a social mission? You only get to play each scenario once (twice if you also play CORE); why waste the play?

(Unless you're really trying to challenge your roleplaying ability, which hey, sometimes that might be fun, but I'd hope you'd get your GM and table to buy in on that plan first.)

Bobbi hugs her owlbear close. "Look, Hoot may be adorably incompetent, but I pull enough weight for the both of us!"

Owlbears that are based on bears rather than grizzly bears are not the most powerful of animal buddies, alas. Hoot's main role is too look scary and flank with party members since he can rarely land a hit of his own, poor thing. I could have made him better with substantial investments in equipment, but I decided to mainly invest in Bobbi instead. Hoot's a pet. He delivers things, flanks, and does stuff out of combat, but his chassis is horribly underpowered.

Though... I must be doing something right with Hoot. The one time he died, the entire party volunteered on their own to help bring him back to life. Hoot's antics have been a continual source of amusement wherever goes.

**hic!** You gonna finish that drink? And does anyone here know how to 'pounce'?

"What'dya mean I don't dance? Ever since that little escapade up in the River Kingdoms I've been practising my 'Pirate Shuffle'." sighs the elegant looking dwarf.

Did I say eledgant? Well, if he didn't have quite so much ale in his beard... Did I say beard? It looks like it might still be growing back after a too-close-encounter with something that was hotter than anticipated.

"Bahh, the younger generation." A keen look enters his eye. "Did someone say 'Bar'?"

Owlbears that are based on bears rather than grizzly bears are not the most powerful of animal buddies, alas.

Nah use the Grizzly, you know you want to - they give better hugs too! It took a long time to get the Grizzly made a legit choice - embrace...embraaaaaccce...

I want to do so, but there was never a clarification that stated lunar oracles can get Grizzlies, alas. If I could get a grizzly, Hoot might actually become competent.

Just as a heads up, I've posted in my games that my power was possibly going out and I would lose contact for a few days... posting from mobile at my work after hours because... power is out at home. Se yall in a few days.

I want to do so, but there was never a clarification that stated lunar oracles can get Grizzlies, alas. If I could get a grizzly, Hoot might actually become competent.

Well, there is this line: A grizzly bear animal companion can qualify for and be subject to boons as though it were a bear animal companion.

But I don't think that helps. We all know that crocodile is the best lunar animal companion anyway :P

I see some players in multiple campaigns at once, what are the rules on that?

I see some players in multiple campaigns at once, what are the rules on that?

As long as you're playing in multiple campaigns with different characters, you're good...

Recommend you start with one PC in one game. Once you think you've got the hang of things, look for a second session, and so on, until you reach your personal sweet spot.

The number of games someone can handle simultaneously varies from person to person, and depends to some extent on the GM and players' style and compatibility with your own preferences.

PbP is as diverse as face-to-face play. One person's awesome session might be another's nightmare for any number of reasons.

I got lucky. A few experienced folks steered me towards like-minded and good GMs and players early, and I've largely stuck with them ever since.

The PbP cons, like the current PbP Gameday VIII, are good ways to meet new GMs and players.

And your personal number will vary from time to time. I used to do a lot more than I can handle at the moment, but in the future I expect my personal value is likely to flex back up again.