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What are you hoping to see come out in this book to boost the classes? Currently hoping to see:
- Bloodrager as an instinct.
- more Druidic Orders
- Arcanist. Somehow. Some way. I love that style of spellcasting
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Shifter archetype. If Cavalier, Brawler, and Vigilante can be brought over as archetypes, then so can the Shifter.
My favorite thing in Pathfinder ever is the kineticist, so I died a little inside when I saw it isn't coming out next year. But I would be happy if we got mechanics that could bring casters closer to that style of play. Metamagic could easily work like infusions, and cantrips like blasts. There would probably have to be a trade off somewhere, in addition to costing feats. I see something like a cantrip master archetype; requires spell slots and at least one attack cantrip known, and it's a line of feats that is basically metamagic that can only be applied to attack tagged cantrips. Maybe doing damage in a line, increasing damage, etc at the cost of an action. And possibly costing one spell slot per level you can cast (except for 10th).
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Legendary Kineticist looks pretty good.
There are apparently not going to be as many base classes in PF2E as there were in PF1E. I wonder which ones we might still see?
I hope arcanist becomes an archetype that gives a slot and changes how you cast giving spells 1 per level. Like if you are a prepared caster you gain a spell where you can heighten freely and one spell that you can cast spontaneously per slot. And if you are spontaneus you can prepare 1 spell per slolt.
Considering 4-6 classes have dropped from the pool isn't that statement already true even if all the other classes get implemented?Legendary Kineticist looks pretty good.
There are apparently not going to be as many base classes in PF2E as there were in PF1E. I wonder which ones we might still see?
Only if they do not create any completely new ones....
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I want to say there was an interview where they said they wanted to make new classes, not just port over all the old 1e classes.
Well, there ya go. New classes would be interesting, I guess.
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They've said it on numerous occasions, actually. Pretty much when pressed, so far, every Paizo person has expressed an interest in adding and creating new things for Pathfinder instead of just porting over old stuff.
And frankly, they had better do so, in my opinion.
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Shifter on the other hand gives things that are more unique. So they have a higher chance of being a full class.I don't know what it would mean for Shifter in relation to the prior edition, but in PF2 this feels very in line with other "feat chain" style archetypes (Mauler, Martial Artist, etc).
I'd expect the Dedication to give the Wildshape focus spell, and then access to the appropriate Druid feats at min level +2. Add in a couple of archetype exclusive feats as gravy and call it a day.
Hopefully coupled with them resolving how wild shape interacts with various other rules.
Whether or not an item bonus to hit works when wild shaped via the focus spell is probably the most important. But whether rage, sneak attack, etc etc apply is also pretty important.
They've said it on numerous occasions, actually. Pretty much when pressed, so far, every Paizo person has expressed an interest in adding and creating new things for Pathfinder instead of just porting over old stuff.
And frankly, they had better do so, in my opinion.
Yeah, but they still need to port the core stuff everyone likes first. Probably they will keep porting but adding smaller new things with it until they port everything that is needed. But i do want new things compatible with the system instead of porting the old. With the new action system they can make so much more than just old rehashs.
They've said it on numerous occasions, actually. Pretty much when pressed, so far, every Paizo person has expressed an interest in adding and creating new things for Pathfinder instead of just porting over old stuff.
And frankly, they had better do so, in my opinion.
I wonder if the Paizo crowd consider the Investigator and Swashbuckler to be new stuff - I would, at least the Swashbuckler. Really nothing in common with the original iterations other than the name and the theming.
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There is a need to port over old stuff because past the core classes and some prestige classes most of it was Original.
Not only that but many of those classes are incredibly popular and they would be shooting themselves in the foot not providing access to something that fills those roles.
Not to mention that OF2 is canonically a continuation of Golarion were all those old classes existed. And one of their stated goals for the game was "telling the same stories", which is impossible if you dont have the classes for it.
I don't think anyone is for completely leaving existing classes behind. But beyond having one of the biggest and best fantasy RPG design teams in existence, they also have a proprietary world that they can use to design entirely new and unique classes for it. There is so, so much open room to try new things and I personally would be beyond disappointed if they stopped at "what worked before" and never delve into anything new or wild!
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Back to the original post purpose:
1) more Oracle mysteries
2) Other non-school wizard traditions
3) new wizard thesis and feats to support all wizard thesis
4) some way of wizards sacrificing a higher level spell slot to cast a lower level spell they have prepared at a higher level.
5) An archetype that works for a wizard alchemist hybrid with feats to combine alchemy and magic
6) A witchlike option for the magus - a martial that has made a deal with a patron for power - fighter + witch archetype doesn't quite cut it. Be good if their 'familiar' was an intelligent weapon (yes I know that could just be done via flavour).
7) Good options for non vancian casting.
8) A construct eidolon option for the summoner
9) better wizard focus spells
10) Better/more attack roll based spells that don't also allow a save
11) Effective feats to buff shape changer wizards - seriously a transmuter focus spell that granted temp HP, AC and Att Bonus while polymorphed would go a long way.
12) An underground thematic druid order - order of caves or fungi or something
13) Eldritch Knight prestige class, something similar to Eldritch archer but melee flavoured.
14) An archetype that worked something similar to the Echo Knight fighter option from Explorer's Guide to Wildemount.
15) Chronomancy options
16) Seeker of the song type archetype
17) Sorcerer evolution feats similar to dragon disciple but for the other bloodlines.
18) Cleric Inquisitor Doctrine or inquisitor feat chain
19) More focus spell options for non caster classes, Rangers got some great stuff be nice if Champions got more love.
20) More focus spells not tied to a domain for clerics. Sadly there are too many domains to support with specific class feats.
21) A shifter archetype
22) More ancestry magic feats and focus spells
23) A necromancer archetype that makes a good option for Clerics, Wizards or Wizards
24) More rituals - seriously there is a lot of room here to put in some super cool stuff then limit it via rarity
25) Dirge/funeral Bard muse.
Mystic Theurge, maybe.
as an archetype, I guess.
perhaps Beguiler, too.
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Back to the original post purpose:
8) A construct eidolon option for the summoner
Good news, Paizo may have already beaten you to that one. From the Eidolons intro in the playtest, right before the "Reading an Eidolon's Entry" portion:
Arcane eidolons are usually formed of mental essence, also known as astral essence. They include dragon eidolons, the astral echoes of ancient dragons; construct eidolons, astral beings formed into a simple construct shape through arcane magic; and amalgam eidolons, scientifically crafted magical experiments built carefully out of astral thoughtforms.