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Does Champion even have action economy enhancers for shields beyond extra reactions? I don't recall them getting Quick Shield Block or the Shield Paragon stance. I think anyone but fighters and magi who wants cool shield stuff need to take Bastion.

They get an always active Paragon's Guard Stance (that doesn't interfere with any other stance) if they've got the Shield Divine Ally and take Shield Paragon as their capstone. As for QSB, they get it as an option at 8th level right out of the Core Rulebook. And they can combine their Champion's Reaction and Shield Block into a single reaction with Shield of Reckoning (while still getting additional reactions for both separately through the respective feats).

Ho do I opt out of the new core books while keeping my sub active?

HenshinFanatic wrote:

Unfortunately the best source of recurring temp HP still happens to be high level Numbing Tonics.

There is the wood keneticist aura junction. Yes, it's only 3 at max; but it has no resource cost.

True Numbing Tonic meanwhile gives 25 THP/round for 10 rounds, and Alchemists can make 2 per Infused Reagent they expend during daily prep if they so choose (shame it doesn't have the Healing tag outherwise it'd be even better at 3 per Infused Reagent during daily prep). Also Perpetual Perfection picking Greater Soothing Tonic as an option for unlimited Fast Healing 5 for a minute with 10 minute immunity to healing HP through Perpetual Infusion/Potency/Perfection elixirs.

Transcend—Reap the Field [one-action] (transcendence) Requirements

Your previous action was a successful Strike, and you
have not yet rolled damage; Effect Time seems to lag as
you blur across the battlefield, deciding the fate of many
in a moment. Do not roll damage for your Strike. Stride up
to half your speed and make an attack against a different
foe, using the same multiple attack penalty. If your second
attack is a success, you deal damage to both creatures; if it
is a miss, you deal damage to neither creature.

Seems pretty clear that you roll damage once and apply it to both targets, or nothing on a miss.

And what of new deities such as the ones introduced in Rage of Elements?

I'm not looking forward to all the homebrew for deities I'll have to do since I refuse to abandon alignment.

I'm pretty sure that whatever this class is, it's not going to be "beloved PF1 class with the serial numbers filed off".

I mean, if it worked for Thaumaturge...

Take fire/water at level 1 and expand to Air at 5, I suppose? I don't think there are any particular synergies to exploit between the three elements, the composites available are decidedly air and water not electricity and ice. Oscillating Wave Psychic is an alternative idea but you'd be missing out on electricity stuff.

Seconding the kineticist suggestions, also adding to take the AoE Cold, Fire, and Electricity impulses.

I was thinking about thisna few Times already with the Idea of homebrewing archetypes and whole classes, never got around to do it

Many of your Combos Go rather Well
For dark Knights I would actually Go Champion base and allow the evil dedications, but to Trigger the reaction on attacked Allied and a custom Set of edicts

With the black mages Mana mechanics one could probably use an oscillating Wave psychic

Samurai could probably get aldori duelist or regular duelist as dedications

Issue with Oscillating Wave Psychic is the timing on the element switch. FFXIV BLM uses fire phase to headbang out some big damage in the form of hot flaming death until they're OoM, then switches to Ice to start regening that mana for the next mosh pit session. Oscillating Wave does the switch each energy damage causing spell.

I made an Amal'ja (lizardfolk/Iruxi) PLD going Paladin Champion (using Ragathiel as a stand-in for non-Primal Ifrit) and just refluffing visual effects to be ḑ̸̳̭̙̻̲͚̲͇̤̆̊̎ͅḁ̷̺̙̃̂̽̉̿͐̂͂͂̽͜ͅṛ̵̡̯̖̺͈͓̟̱̹̐́̒̍̄̍̆̈́̀̊̚͝k̶͍̻̮͙̹͉͇̲͐̍ė̶̽̋͝ ̮̐r̵̛͈̠̠̤̊͋̉͒̇̐͋̈́̇̈́̆ͅ ̵͖̗̯̼̣̮͇̺̯̜̮̒̾͊̓͜ȧ̸̺͇̻̝̺̿́n̸̹̹̪̝͑̒͒̏̕d̵̡̨̛̫̺̰͔̹̞͈̙̲̬̅͋͐̈̓̔̕͝͠ ̶̝͉̯̥͍͆̑̅̅̂ḙ̶̢̮͈̘͇̙̠͊̓̂̂̀̈́̊̇̅̇͜͝͝d̵̘̟̖̠̗̙̜̳̀̃̏̅̂̾͂̕ͅǵ̴̼̥̠͆̉̿̍̈̂́̋͋ĭ̷̇̇̂̑ ̡̡̭̬̟̪̹̩̥̄̉͂̈́͘͜è̵̛͉̆̔̒̇́̊̈͋͝r̴̙̖̅̍̓̔͝͝.

It looks like it's just flat range.

Yeah I really like Weapon Infusion.

So does my BLM build with 100' range increment fire blasts

PossibleCabbage wrote:

Ectar wrote:

you're down 5 AC (2 from shield, 3 from armor) until the start of your turn.

I don't think this is how people are going to use metal carapace. It has a dex cap of two, so you'll have 14 dex. It transfers runes from your base armor, so you're going to want to be wearing some light armor anyway, pick a light armor with an AC of 2. So when your carapace breaks you're only down 1 from armor instead of 3 (2+2 down from 3+2). You'll still use your shield, but the point of the ability is kind of "it's one action to repair your shield."

Except the shield is part of the same infusion, so if you eat a crit your shield is gone too.

I'll grant you the armor part, tho. It probably makes sense not to be running around naked under your carapace armor.

If you're going to lose the shield regardless, might as well just block with it and eat just a bit less of that crit damage.

I wonder if Norgober dies and is broken up to different Gods?

Idea for this scenario; Nor: The Reaper of Reputation, Gor: The Skinsaw Man, Ber: Master of the Blackfingers.

3) Shield Healing, likewise is kinda tough, I don't think we have a solid "temp HP for others" cantrip yet. I did get some great use of of the Witch's Blood Ward hex. A custom patron for a Witch might work for SCH as a result. I'd still be cautious about leaning too heavily on a "useful familiar" for SCH though -- even the special Witch's familiar will not match up to the class fantasy in my opinion. I was looking at an Angelic Summoner w/ Witch dedication, but the eidolon doesn't have any healing abilities (unless you spend the a lot of feats on it. Fey Summoner w/ Witch dedication might actually work -- your eidolon gets the spellcasting feats automatically. You don't really care about the expanding Illusions/Enchantment though. If you're homebrewing stuff, exploring some alternate divine eidolon abilities might be able to get you close.

Rage of Elements has bequeathed unto us Rousing Splash that grants a target 1d4/spell rank temp HP for a minute as a cantrip (with the downside of making them temporarily immune for 10 min) and it's on both the divine and primal spell lists. There's a few other spells and impulses in there to keep in mind as well such as Mantle of the Unwavering Heart, the level 12 Metal Kineticist impulse Shattershields, the level 1 Wood Kineticist impulse Timber Sentinel (free protector tree), and the level 8 Wood Kineticist overflow impulse Sanguivolent Roots which is a semi-decent stand-in for Sacred Soil. The remastered version of the Fervor Patron for Witch also gives a small amount of temp HP to someone within 15 feet of your familiar every time you use or sustain a hex (including the provided hex cantrip). Unfortunately the best source of recurring temp HP still happens to be high level Numbing Tonics.

I'll just cross post my thoughts from a different thread

What if we're all looking at this the wrong way? What if it isn't one of the active deities that is getting offed, but rather one that's more, confined shall we say? My guess is one of the future APs will cap-off with the adventurers actually perma-killing Rovagug with backup and empowerment from all deities that don't want to become his meal.

What if we're all looking at this the wrong way? What if it isn't one of the active deities that is getting offed, but rather one that's more, confined shall we say? My guess is one of the future APs will cap-off with the adventurers actually perma-killing Rovagug with backup and empowerment from all deities that don't want to become his meal.

Wait what is the issue with the word golem?

Allegedly, some have scruples about the term being used since it comes from a real-world religious belief. I personally think that's daft since the context is completely different from how "phylactery" was appropriated (though even with that I contend there were magic items unrelated to liches that bore the term as well and axing those alongside the less savoury version was an overreaction).

It is genuinely surprising that the Kineticist doesn't get a capstone like the monk for "be in two stances at once".

That doesn't even deserve to be a capstone, level 12 at most.

Am I the only one who's confused as to what exactly a "ruinous hand cannon" is as per the Gray Prince entry?

DesEuler wrote:

PFS Guide Rarity and Access Adjustments wrote:

As members of the Pathfinder Society, characters have automatic access to many uncommon options

...
As stated in the section introduction, all characters have access to the magic items in the Magic Items section on page 117, as well as the items, familiars and spells on pages 120-121.

There are no familiars or spells on pages 120 or 121, only items; the familiars and spells are on pages 122 and 123 (with some items).

As written, the familiars and spells on pages 122 and 123 are not usable in PFS Organized Play. Is this intended or was the access adjustments supposed to extend to page 123?

This isn't a Lost Omens error: it's a PFS error and as such, should be posed in an appropriate PFS thread in the PFS section of these forums.

I may be mistaken, but I think this is in reference to things in Lost Omens: Pathfinder Society Guide. Yes this particular book's name would naturally lead to such confusion.

Finally got my physical copy, though I don't notice any issues with the art that have been reported by some others. Happy to finally have the actual book instead of just a PDF.

Actual in-depth coverage of the lesser orders of Hellknights. Especially fixing Order of the Torrent's inability to gain their iconic "Seek the Taken" from 1E.

Perpdepog wrote:

The Raven Black wrote:

HenshinFanatic wrote:

Hellknight as an archetype definitely needs reworking for the remaster by default.

Why ? What needs changing ?

It has the issue that the early armor and weapon-based archetypes do of being difficult to get into unless you fall into a fairly narrow character design range, or are human.

No mention of how sense chaos and blade of law won't function in the remaster?

This is what I was referring to.

Hellknight as an archetype definitely needs reworking for the remaster by default.

Still waiting on my physical copy (but that's Can'tada Post for ya), so I've been going over the PDF constantly since I downloaded it.

I wouldn't call Tar-Baphon a Great Power any more than I would call a hurricane a Great Power, regardless of how powerful his forces are, because you need to be a nation to be one and as I understand that just isn't what the Eye of Dread is. It's more akin to the Worldwould in severity, a breach of the natural order. The Eye of Dread isn't really a nation, more of a roaming horde.

Of course it's not a nation, it's a meta-region that contains nations such as Ustalav, Molthune, Nirmathas, and Oprak.

Fast Healing is certainly a healing magic special ability that is enough like regeneration to qualify.

About the only difference of merit is that regen can reattach dismembered limbs whereas fast healing can't.

Yeah, being reborn as a skeleton is an entirely different process... ^‐^

Skeleton knight intensifies.

We use a homebrewed Sturdy Rune at our table that can only be etched on Shields. The Rune mimic's the Sturdy Shield just subtracted the Steel Shield values from it thus you get:

Usage etched on to a Shield to bolster its hardness and hit points. A shield, magical or otherwise can only have one such rune etched on to it. The Sturdy Shield already has this rune etched on it.

Type minor Level 4 Price 80 gp
Hardness +3 HP +44 & BT is equal to half HP

Type lesser Level 7 Price 300 gp
Hardness +5 HP +60 & BT is equal to half HP

Type moderate Level 10 Price 950gp
Hardness +8 HP +84 & BT is equal to half HP

Type greater Level 13 Price 2400gp
Hardness +10 HP +100 & BT is equal to half HP

Type major Level 16 Price 9000gp
Hardness +12 HP +116 & BT is equal to half HP

Type supreme Level 19 Price 32,000gp
Hardness +15 HP +140 & BT is equal to half HP

I did something similar by turning the Sturdy Shield's effect into an accessory rune that goes on only mundane items (so yes while it can go on basic and precious material shields, it can also go on a favourite pair of boots or a vehicle so long as the item doesn't have the magical tag). I also made it so that the only flat increase is to the base hardness of the item and then multiply the new base hardness by 8 to determine the new max HP (with BT being half max HP). I also renamed the accessory rune to Durable. Now enjoy your Supremely Durable Adamantine Shield (Hardness 28, HP 224, BT 112)

So far my concept for a solo game is an Anvil Dwarf Champion (Paladin of the Dwarven Pantheon)//Summoner with the Miner background with his eidolon being a biblically accurate ophanim that he can eventually ride for a minute at a time.

I'm really hoping we see Shamans soon. Having a miko-equivalent in Minkai would be an awful lot of fun, especially if their proximity to the Forest of Spirits and its many kami means we get a lot of animism out there.

If it means a deeper dive into Tamashigo and by extension similar animistic philosophies then I'm all for it.

Feragore wrote:

I remembered studded leather isn't real, so that could go. Easily replaced by brigandine, which is near visually identical, but a real historic type of armor - the 'studs' are rivets that hold steel plates on the inside.

As a bonus, studded leather was even invented by WotC long ago so there's a case that it's OGL property and should be replaced.

Now that you mention it, I understand that they were kept as-is because people love their fantasy armour, but I would love an armour choice that acknowledges that 'cloth' armours like gambeson were actually very effective and not just a weaker choice that you wouldn't ever take if you had money. Besides which, cloth armours actually look amazing and I think it's time modern fantasy gets some rep in on that.

To go along with that, introducing proper Medium Cloth armour (gambeson is right there and no, quilted is too light duty for proper standalone gambeson) and finally giving cloth an armor specialization effect. Whether it will have the "comfort" tax or not is up to the rules witches @ Paizo to figure out.

Building on this idea:

Introduce the Keythong (essentially a wingless griffon) with various varieties, such as lion+eagle (regular), your cheetah+falcon (speed), wolf+corvid (smarts), and... bear+owl (strength)! Etc.
;p

Clearly the strength one should be a hippo+cassowary, the bear+owl is actually the stealth one. Also the wolf+crow should get a full on troop variant being pack animals and all.

No more Worm that walks. Sad.

I still hope we can get a humanoid swarm ancestry some day.

Pretty sure that's from Cthulhu mythos stuff, so it should be good.

We've been joking around with it, but it would be nice if halflings had a name that was more unique.

It's always been frustrating that Gygax couldn't be bothered to name them after somebody told him hobbit was trademarked...

They ought to be 'gnomes' - but original D&D made this two different things, and now we're stuck with one of them not really having a name of it's own.

We could always call them Denisovans but that's not a very fun sounding name.

I believe the "official" name for most D&D settings is Hin (excepting Dragonlance where it's shudder Kender, or Eberron where they're just Halflings, and I don't think Dark Sun has a proper Watsonian name for them not counting descriptives like "the ancients" or "short cannibals out in the desert").

Flight would be incredibly balanced in PF2 if it took an action to sustain it.

Doesn't it already? It's called moving, unless you'd care to explain how an anthropomorphic bird-man with a 3 meter wingspan (wingtip to upper back) is staying stationary while airborne?

I wonder if we're going to see any new special materials.

Hopefully an expansion on Celestial Peachwood so it can be used for more than just weapons.

Flyssa So basically a shortsword, but with a knife category, which is generally considered to have a better critical effect. I forsee a lot of rogues and swashbucklers switching over to this common shortsword, if the rogue can swing the proficiency.

So basically a messer.

Ya know, if we ever got shuriken improving archetype, it better be fricking accurate to how they are supposed to be used.

Mostly that shurikens are kinda like caltrops, you are supposed to throw them at enemy while you are escaping :p

That's not how caltrops (makibishi) were used though, they were prepared ahead of time to act as area denial for pursuing enemies since the point was that only the ninja who set them would know the safe spots and in the darkness they couldn't be seen easily.

You could also just leave the dimorphism as something flavor-based, with a feat/heritage for "your dimorphism is especially prominent". Might not be what people want, though!

That idea does have merit, and the design space for such already exists with lineage feats.

Excited about Tanuki, but I want to know, are you going to fix up Kitsune? As it stands there are a ton of issues with it that prevent them from functioning as proper shapeshifting fox people, especially if you want to go for more of the magic fox rather than human with tail character.

Most of those issues were fixed in the Kitsune of Golarion Infinite product but that can't be used in Society and it is kinda embarrassing that the quintessential shapeshifting tricksters shapeshifting is represented by choosing to either be a human or an incredibly mechanically flawed approximation of a fox through pest form.

I'd expect at least some more feats and maybe one or two new heritages, as for me I'm hyped for the near certain return of hungerseed tieflings.

If you're looking for something like the old BECMI method where the demi-humans and monstrous humanoids were unique classes (i.e. Elf, Dwarf, Halfling, Orc, Goblin, etc), I'd probably take an exisiting class that's closest to the archetypical member of the Ancestry (so Dwarf would be based on the Fighter with some changes to up the dwarven flavour, Elf would be a sort of in-between of Magus and Ranger probably keeping the Magus' HP and equipment proficiencies while taking Ranger's greater skill focus and nature focus and getting to choose between Arcane or Primal for their casting tradition, Halfling would be closest to a Rogue, etc). Though that raises the question of what to do with the Lost Omens original Ancestries such as Anadi (Bard maybe), Android (Investigator?) Automaton (...), Goloma, etc.

Xethik wrote:

graystone wrote:

Onkonk wrote:

graystone wrote:

non-metal armors: I'm surprised here weren't any any with max dex 0 or +1, meaning your druid needs a least a 14 dex. This means that the stats you need haven't changed over the old sets of armor with only traits being possible differences. They do add some style though.

Stone material mentions it can replace metal in chain and composite armor and bone says it can be used instead of wood and metal.

This must be in a section not previewed.

It's in the back of the crafting section (apologies if answered already). It's easy to miss them. I think there might be a video out there by NoNat1s that scrolled through it from last night.

Remembered this thread and thought I'd follow up on this since it's easy to link stuff now: https://2e.aonprd.com/Rules.aspx?ID=1941

Variant Materials wrote:

Armors should generally not be crafted from materials other than those they are presented as being made from, since accessibility to stone and wooden armors directly affects the balance and progression of various classes. Rather than allowing a character to craft a suit of full plate from a non-metallic material, direct the character towards the non-metallic armors presented here.

It seems the intent remains that Druids aren't supposed to get access to any heavy armors that aren't specifically spelled out as magic items, as all the base heavy armors include metal in their description. It would be less annoying if there were tags that specified materials for armor to remove any ambiguity and to make setting custom materials a bit easier without a GM having to do any judgement calls, but at least the existing descriptions for items are careful to include the names of metals somewhere in the description or explicitly call out that druids can wear them.

Couldn't they just wear Bone Full Plate/Fortress Plate if they really want to get the heavy armor proficiency (and scaling via Sentinel) and actually make use of it? Far as I can tell only stone has the stipulation that it can only be used for heavy armor that explicitly says it's made of stone.

JiCi wrote:

Electric Arc cannot be used with Spellstrike, because it doesn't require an attack roll. You can use it with the Expansive Spellstrike feat, but the target is still entitled to a saving throw, even if you succesfully strike it. What's MORE irritating is that there are TWO 1st-level Electric spells: Shocking Grasp and Horizon Thunder Sphere.

Nobody's gonna use leveled spells for Spellstrike given that Heightening them require high slots.

Here's one prediction/hope: a follow-up higher-level feat for Expansive Spellstrike, which NEGATES any saving throw the target would receive after being struck with a Spellstrike using other spells. If I use Electric Arc with [Greater] Expansive Spellstrike, the target doesn't the basic Reflex saving throw if Spellstrike succeeds. If I decides to use Electric Arc to target TWO opponents, only the 2nd one gets to save, because it won't be the initial Spellstrike target.

Maybe not negate the saving throw, but the result could be one degree worse with the Greater version.

Doesn't a critical success already do that for the base version? seems like an easy upgrade.

graystone wrote:

aobst128 wrote:

Not as bad as ancestral weapon monks anyways.

I see them about the same as you're spending the same number of monk feats: You're just spending a 1st level ancestry feat extra and that's pretty much the entry feat/cost for an advanced weapon anyway. The bigger problem for me, is finding an ancestral weapon worth the effort/feats [finesse and/or agile + ancestry trait]. I mean why go out of your way to do this for, say an elven branched spear [1d6P, Deadly d8, Elf, Finesse, Reach, Uncommon], when I could just pick up a Kusarigama [1d8 S, Disarm, monk, reach, trip, versatile B]? Only thing I can see is going for a particular theme/image.

Ancestral weaponry is the worst feat tax in the whole system for so...little...return

in this particular case one could make an argument for a finesse weapon with a mostly dex based monk

and I still find it...weird that a weapon like kusarigama is not finesse

I love most of the system but some design decisions around many different weapons are just mind boggling for me

(But non-combination firearms pretty much hit a sweet spot for me, theres not all things bad)

Or how meteor hammers and rope darts have nothing in common.

Be amused for take on the Apallie as an ancestry. The notion of a small slime invested with a impression from a spellcaster or psychic that tries to integrate into society.

Well then, Roll For Combat has the product just for you! Battlezoo Ancestries Year of Monsters has the Slime Ancestry, as well as Doppleganger (with more to come).

... [omitted for convenience, it's getting way too long]

Why would that be a logical conclusion to make when Occam's Razor would point towards referring to that which is already established instead of randomly introducing a new element not previously brought up? Also, I clearly used the singular form so that also implies that only one resistance value is at play. If I thought multiple resistances stacked (I don't that's all been others adding their own preconceptions of, I guess me), and if the beneficiary of Champion's Reaction had a pre-existing resistance that was higher (something not previously established as well as highly unlikely since few things at any level give more than what a Champion's Reaction could hope to provide), then I would have written "resistances" rather than "resistance".

HenshinFanatic wrote:

breithauptclan wrote:

Shield of Reconing is what you are using as your character's reaction, yes? It specifies using both Shield Block and your Champion's Reaction Glimpse of Redemption. It lists both, but it doesn't actually specify an order for them. It actually makes more sense to apply the Champion Reaction first in general, and Glimpse of Redemption specifically because the enemy gets to choose if they are going to follow through with the attack at all.

So my order would be:

1) Champion's Reaction - Enemy decides whether to finish the attack.
2) Champion's Reaction - Assuming that they do finish the attack, calculate damage. Then apply the resistance from Champion's Reaction to the damage total.
3) Shield Block - Reduce damage total by the amount of the shield's hardness. Apply damage to the shield as appropriate.
4) Shield of Grace - Split any damage that would be applied to the other character evenly between that character and the Champion character.

Sorry for the thread necro, but I don't agree with that order.

PF2E CRB wrote:

Redeemer

it says the targetted ally gains Resistance to the damage equal to 2+your level so it really should be:

1) Champion's Reaction - Enemy decides whether to even deal damage to their original target.
2) Champion's Reaction - Ally gets 2+your level resistance to any incoming damage.
3) Shield Warden - Reduces damage total by shield's hardness. Shield takes full remaining damage.
4) Shield of Grace - Split remaining damage evenly between you and ally.
5) Ally's resistance reduces their half of damage even more.

5 is definitely wrong.

Resistances do not stack. And the Ally already gets Resist All through the champion reaction.

Although if an Ally has a higher resistance to something than what the champion gives he uses that INSTEAD of the champion reaction one....

The resistance (that you gave them at step 2) can't actually be used once damage actually hits the ally for what reason exactly? There is no other resistance, just the 2+your level that was given from Champion's Reaction, and it only applies when they actually take damage, which must be after the shield takes damage because you have to split that total evenly between yourself and the ally benefiting from your Champion's Reaction.

Evilgm wrote:

Riddlyn wrote:

Perpdepog wrote:

The library robes let it be each day. They limit the level of spell you can scribe on but you've only got to pay the crafting cost rather than the full price of the scroll to inscribe.

Do they? Because that's not what it says

They do, because it is what it says.

Ahh ok the library robes say that but not the scroll robes don't. I kept looking at those

Yeah, it was the specific magic armor one, not the base armor.

Going to chime in as another one wanting Lashunta.

Edit: Never mind, I was mistaken.