Thaleon glimpsed a color he’d never seen before, one he couldn’t describe… but he knew it was bright.

A color never before seen on Earth!

Catch that reference.

I hope it's octarine.

I'm most excited for details on the new conscious mind, Tangible Dream

Ah maybe I should stay aware from online stores while half asleep then. Thanks, sorry.

Huh why is there no pdf option? Seems like a strange thing to not have.

Lonesomechunk wrote:

What Spell List is Phoenix? Primal? Arcane? Divine? I imagine it would have something to do with Hao Jin and my personal guess is Arcane but I could be wrong

It's primal.

Interesting. How does it stack up vs the fire elemental bloodline? They seem distinct enough from each other?

SoulknifeFan420 wrote:

Oh? What bloodline?

Phoenix Bloodline: You have been blessed by a phoenix, perhaps via some magical interaction with a similarly blessed individual.

Oh sick I was hoping that one would come soon. How's the focus spells and blood magic?

Love the sorcerer bloodline

Oh? What bloodline?

Interesting. Thanks for the info.

Well, for simplicity, do either of the martial weapons get the monk trait?

Huh. I wonder if the advanced ones interact with Monastic Weaponry in any way. The actual text is "You gain access to uncommon weapons that have the monk trait and become trained in simple and martial monk weapons. " So it seems like advanced weapons wouldn't be included?

I think Paizo’s fighter holds its own as far as options to 13th Age. As far as class fantasy that is subjective thing. Do not want to side track this forum though. I wonder if the soulboud weapon//armor archetype is open to martial classes other than Paladin?

Need access to divine spell list or 14 wisdom. So pretty open given how useful wisdom is

Darksol the Painbringer wrote:

Kalaam wrote:

Now I want to do a Magus/Inventor dual class/free archetype.

The ultimate sword nerd.

Would probably be the closest thing to a Black Blade Magus you could get.

I have a feeling they are going to make black blade an archetype in the book magus comes in. Only anyone can take it.

Boy I hope so. Weapon summoning is basically the only other thing I truly want from the game at this point. Well, that and kaiju. Until then, at least i can finally use swordchucks yo.

Honestly the idea of alternate casting styles is top of the list for me. Never was a fan of Vancian casting, which is why i drifted heavily towards Spheres of Power in pf1

What level is Verdant Seed?

Might as well join in and ask about a summary of the nature feats if you could please.

How does Scroll Trickster work? Do you pick a list to make scrolls from?

Oh Threefold Aspect is in the APG right? What's that do?

Also, did Bull's Strength and related spells come back too?

Folks, just to speak on the topic of the Tengu Oracle...

When looking at the iconics for Pathfinder 2nd Edition, we are always on the look out for ways to offer up a different look and feel for these vital characters. In the past, they have been primarily human, so with the new edition we have decided to mix it up a bit, adding characters that represent different ancestries in the game. Our new tengu character is just one example of where we decided to go in a different direction, but you will still find Alahazra in our game as a sample Oracle.

After having another look, i feel like this is mostly for 'stand and fight/locked in a duel' moments. Like when you just want more survivability for a straight fight, because hey you never know.

Edit: which still runs counter to the classes main focus, but hey playing against type i suppose.

A frontliner daredevil... that has to "chill" happenstance doesn't really mesh.

To be fair, that's just poor word choice on my part.

I really just mean take the temp hp for safety, because you're in the middle of a brawl, and certainly take advantage of any chance to renew it.

My best guess is, at the end of the day, you're still a martial. You'll be in the thick of the fight, getting hit. If you have refillable temp hp to help mitigate hits, it helps the fiction of the daring daredevil who keeps on in a fight long past lesser combatants. So chill out long enough to soak a hit, then back to burning panache.

Cant wait to give a monk a witch dedication to flurry with hair

Playtest ends december, full class is released in july with the APG

Strill wrote:

And if you used a dagger, you'd miss out on the benefits of a d8 mainhand weapon, or a shield. I'm saying that you get the defenses of a shield build, with the increased accuracy of an off-hand agile weapon.

A dagger could be that off handed agile weapon is my point. Hit with the shield, then stab with the dagger.

You know what, just realized i missed your point

SoulknifeFan420 wrote:

Strill wrote:

Claxon wrote:

Double slice not allowing for unarmed strikes is silly.

It may not be RAW (Actually I'm unsure on that part) but it seems more like something that should be errata'd.

Edit: If I look on Archives of Nethys under the weapons table the very first line says Fist.

I'm very inclined to say that the game treats unarmed strikes as weapons.

The problem with allowing unarmed strikes, is that you give 1-hand + Shield users an automatic Agile offhand weapon, since they can make a 1-handed weapon attack, followed up by an Agile kick.

I mean, unless you're a lizardfolk or have a monk dedication it's a 1d4 nonlethal attack. Nothing unbalancing, a dagger would get you.to the same area just without nonlethal and with a different damage type.

And if you used a dagger, you'd miss out on the benefits of a d8 mainhand weapon, or a shield. I'm saying that you get the defenses of a shield build, with the increased accuracy of an off-hand agile weapon.

A dagger could be that off handed agile weapon is my point. Hit with the shield, then stab with the dagger.

Claxon wrote:

Double slice not allowing for unarmed strikes is silly.

It may not be RAW (Actually I'm unsure on that part) but it seems more like something that should be errata'd.

Edit: If I look on Archives of Nethys under the weapons table the very first line says Fist.

I'm very inclined to say that the game treats unarmed strikes as weapons.

The problem with allowing unarmed strikes, is that you give 1-hand + Shield users an automatic Agile offhand weapon, since they can make a 1-handed weapon attack, followed up by an Agile kick.

I mean, unless you're a lizardfolk or have a monk dedication it's a 1d4 nonlethal attack. Nothing unbalancing, a dagger would get you.to the same area just without nonlethal and with a different damage type.

You know, as we get closer and closer to the line, all I have to say is I hope the prehensile hair hex makes a triumphant return, hopefully as a focus power or something.

To clarify question one, you get the Wild Morph focus spell, and the Wild Shape feat, and the feat grants you the Wild Shape focus spell. So you get two focus spells in one go, you just pick which you'd like to use in whatever combat you're in.

I mean, theres always not jumping immediately to murder. Especially if you're talking about someone who has backed you up repeatedly in fights.

Realistically they probably wouldn't work together based soley off of extreme viewpoint clashes, but if they can put it aside for the goal of not dying, im sure they could work out putting it aside for the goal of not dying to each other.

All I want is for any sub paths for the Investigator to have some manner of detective themed name.

The thing that really ticks me off about the fire goblin feats is that you can't choose not to put out the fire. If you're unlucky enough you could be spending an action to set yourself on fire every round.

Now as much as this irks me too, the mental image of an increasingly frustrated goblin continuously relighting himself only to burn out a few seconds later also seems to be peak goblin to me.

From what i understand you dont even have to be a caster.

Eh you know what they say. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Nicolas Paradise wrote:

I will leave you with the names of but not the mechanical effects of 2 new Goblin Heritages in the book.

Tailed Goblin and Treedweller Goblin

Ooo, a puzzle! My guesses are that the Treed-weller Goblin likes to go around digging wells, but can be easily chased up a tree, while the Tailed Goblin always has someone following them.

This is 100% accurate

Colette Brunel wrote:

What is the range on the seedpods?

The Leaf Leshy in the Bestiary has a seedpod range of 30 feet. The other Leshies also has ranged seed/pod attacks with 30 feet. It would make sense if this had a similar range.

Yeah until contradicted that's how im gonna run it.

“blog” wrote:

(Though if we follow the crocodile and shark metaphors too far, that might imply the existence of titanic lizardfolk that existed in prehistoric times. Eek!)

Do you want Godzillas? Because this is how you get Godzillas!

Yes i do, gimme.

Heres hoping future rogue options build on not having to multiclass to make a magic slinging rogue.

Honestly that politician exanple, you csn just explain it as a gut feeling. This guy whos all smiles and says all the right things... he's like a predator closing in on prey. You can see it in his eyes, hes not your friend. It doesn't have to be a complete understanding of humans, just an idea of knowing when somethings off with the situation.

same errata also gives you a level 17 feature, although it's getting late and can't recall from head which one, time to hit the bed i guess.

Resolve i believe? Same as wizards if memory serves.

Recent errata says unarmed advances with simple weapons. You're good.

Kaiju. A 20th level druid or sorcerer can straight up turn into a kaiju, and they gave us none to brawl with. Seems like an easy fix.

Honestly the Aegis would be a good 'make everything' class. Its an armor summoner, itd be easy to expand to weapons, and it did have an archetype that summoned a construct, so there you go, your three paths.

SoulknifeFan420 wrote:

Are gauntlets still a weapon option? And if so, do they carry the same weird baggage from 1e about whether or not they count as unarmed strikes?

They're a Simple Melee wep, 1d4B, Brawling grp, Agile, Free-hand traits.

Sick, thank you.

To change gears to Ranger, i just took a nice long look at it and just wow. The Captain is right with just how much more impressive it is from the PT, and personally, from 1e in general. Unless i missed something important i believe the Ranger’s Edges work with Melee as well, in which wow. I thought Fighter was the King of TWF, but Ranger seems to be able to hold his own just fine. I’ve never actually found myself wanting to play a ranger so much before.

Of course, to each their own in the event Ranger doesn’t end up being your thing.

You know, the last character i played for pf1 was almost a ranger, which in retrospect i regret not doing because unarmed style plus a raptor companion is really everything i want in a character. I guess stripping away favored terrain/ enemy as a default and ditching tbe spell list helped get me a lot more excited. Probably gonna have some fun putting together a ranger/ monk just to finally have that character made up.

Are gauntlets still a weapon option? And if so, do they carry the same weird baggage from 1e about whether or not they count as unarmed strikes?

What are the class paths for the ranger? I realize I haven't heard a single detail about those.

On the subject of languages, is there a cardboard box to aid rogues with stealth/ sliding down sand dunes?

Or a more serious question, are there any specific rules regarding nonlethal damage?

Hell base soulknife had no powers ("spells"), it just had a sword and a dream. And a scaling enhancement bonus and a pseudo sneak attack. But mostly the sword. There was an archetype with powers though. Im honestly not sure how it stacks against the gloomblade, but i think the Soulknife has far less restrictions on the weapon and its enhancements.

I mean unless you were refering to the magus when you said spells. In which case, my bad.