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Any chance we might see poster map folios for this and Pact Worlds at any point in the future (assuming this book will have planetary maps like PW did). Those would be really fun (and extremely useful) to have around while exploring some of the bigger locations in Starfinder.
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Now, here's my one concern here: We're getting the Veskarium and then also a selection of Near Space worlds, which could include stuff like Embroi, Orry, Tabrid Minor, Silselrik, Heicoron IV, and Daimalko.
Assuming that they profile even three or four of those planets, plus the Veskarium, and every planet gets two pages of fluff, plus back matter with ships and weapons...will they have enough room? I mean, the Starfinder Hardcovers are pretty small by comparison to Pathfinder.
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Now, here's my one concern here: We're getting the Veskarium and then also a selection of Near Space worlds, which could include stuff like Embroi, Orry, Tabrid Minor, Silselrik, Heicoron IV, and Daimalko.
Assuming that they profile even three or four of those planets, plus the Veskarium, and every planet gets two pages of fluff, plus back matter with ships and weapons...will they have enough room? I mean, the Starfinder Hardcovers are pretty small by comparison to Pathfinder.
And spells, and archetypes, and themes. Oh my!
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Vanessa Hoskins wrote:I think that's Developer talk for "Shut up and buy the book because everything is going to be fine."
And spells, and archetypes, and themes. Oh my!
There's going to be so much packed into this book! My prediction is that even with all of the new material added, it's still not going to feel like enough. Starfinder has this sort of curse where the more amazing stuff Paizo releases for it, the more we want.
We hunger... HUNGER!
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There's going to be so much packed into this book! My prediction is that even with all of the new material added, it's still not going to feel like enough. Starfinder has this sort of curse where the more amazing stuff Paizo releases for it, the more we want.
I concur, actually. I have a strong suspicion of what's going to be in the book (Daimalko is, after all, a shoe in) but it won't be enough. It will never be enough.
We hunger... HUNGER!
Yes...the need...it cannot be easily sated. We must feast.
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There's going to be so much packed into this book! My prediction is that even with all of the new material added, it's still not going to feel like enough. Starfinder has this sort of curse where the more amazing stuff Paizo releases for it, the more we want.We hunger... HUNGER!
I find this characterization entirely accurate.
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theelcorspectre wrote:What is the difference between the "in-depth gazeteer" that the planets of the Veskarium will get and the "detailed entries" that other planets will get?The number of pages dedicated to them, I would guess.
I figured. I’m wondering if they are going to at least two pages for the non-Veskarium Near Space places mentioned in the core. Or maybe they’ll do a bunch of one page or half pages for Near Space planets not mentioned yet.
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The Gold Sovereign wrote:I figured. I’m wondering if they are going to at least two pages for the non-Veskarium Near Space places mentioned in the core. Or maybe they’ll do a bunch of one page or half pages for Near Space planets not mentioned yet.theelcorspectre wrote:What is the difference between the "in-depth gazeteer" that the planets of the Veskarium will get and the "detailed entries" that other planets will get?The number of pages dedicated to them, I would guess.
In a Know Direction recording of a GenCon panel, Rob and Amanda said that each Near Space planet given a half page in the Core Rulebook would be getting either a 2 or 4 page spread (they couldn't remember at the time). The way they talked about it also implied to me that there were going to be some brand new planets mentioned as well.
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In a Know Direction recording of a GenCon panel, Rob and Amanda said that each Near Space planet given a half page in the Core Rulebook would be getting either a 2 or 4 page spread (they couldn't remember at the time). The way they talked about it also implied to me that there were going to be some brand new planets mentioned as well.
That’s really good to know. Thank you for sharing. I can’t wait for this book.
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What is the difference between the "in-depth gazeteer" that the planets of the Veskarium will get and the "detailed entries" that other planets will get?
The worlds of the Veskarium each get 6 pages, with treatments similar to the individual Pact Worlds in the Pact Worlds book (full-page map, notable locations, etc.)
The other Near Space planets detailed in the book each get a 2-page spread. Some of these planets are expansions of Near Space worlds we've talked about before, and some are brand new!
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So come to think, does this mean we can expect book on The Vast eventually? :D
I wonder what is left after The Vast... Other galaxies/planes? Or just more focus on specific areas of near/vast or solar system... Like maybe one with heavier focus on Azlanti star empire or dark tapestry or whatever?
Well whatever, I do hope we get both Vast and Planar book eventually :D Doesn't even have to focus on traditional planes, we need some scifi dimension travel shenanigans eventually!
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The Vast in general -- probably not. That would be all of the galaxy that is not Near Space -- and if we assume that the galaxy containing the Pact Worlds is comparable in size to the Milky Way, that would be huge.
But I could imagine a book on the Azlanti Star Empire at some point, followed by other themed regions of space as desired. However, I don't think we will get anything for other galaxies unless and until they come up with a way to reach them.
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The Vast in general -- probably not. That would be all of the galaxy that is not Near Space -- and if we assume that the galaxy containing the Pact Worlds is comparable in size to the Milky Way, that would be huge.But I could imagine a book on the Azlanti Star Empire at some point, followed by other themed regions of space as desired. However, I don't think we will get anything for other galaxies unless and until they come up with a way to reach them.
It’s hard for me to see Paizo not doing something like this. I don’t think any of the setting books were ever meant to be comprehensive. There are pact worlds outside of the Golarion system that weren’t covered in that book, probably Veskarium-occupied territories outside of Vesk-Prime’s solar system that won’t be covered in Near Space, and probably many more Near Space worlds that we’ll have to wait for another AP to see. A Vast book wouldn’t even have to cover a fraction of what’s out there. But it would allow Paizo to expand on a portion of their setting that’s largely unexplored right now - the unexplored! What does the uncharted frontier look like in Starfinder? Where is that mythical planet made entirely out of gold but haunted by an ancient entity that’s whispered about in taverns on Broken Rock, or that secret Dominion of the Black mothership slipping in and out of planes you’ll hear every conspiracy nut talking about? Or that failed faraway colony whose inhabitants have mutated mysteriously into fungal predators, or the cosmic museum-hoard of that reclusive collector dragon who spurns “civilised” society to unlock the secrets of the past beyond the Gap?
Most of the worlds we’ve explored in core settings books are pretty frequented, but there’s literally the rest of the galaxy teeming with secrets and strange worlds to explore, uncharted and only barely speculated about. That’s a final frontier I’d like to see a book about.
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David knott 242 wrote:Most of the worlds we’ve explored in core settings books are pretty frequented, but there’s literally the rest of the galaxy teeming with secrets and strange worlds to explore, uncharted and only barely speculated about. That’s a final frontier I’d like to see a book about.
The Vast in general -- probably not. That would be all of the galaxy that is not Near Space -- and if we assume that the galaxy containing the Pact Worlds is comparable in size to the Milky Way, that would be huge.But I could imagine a book on the Azlanti Star Empire at some point, followed by other themed regions of space as desired. However, I don't think we will get anything for other galaxies unless and until they come up with a way to reach them.
For my two cents, I can see it happening a combination of ways:
Maybe they'll release multiple Near Space and Vast books, each covering different areas or major races. The Vast 1 covers The Azlanti Empire and the Shadari Confederacy, Vast 2 covering the worlds ruled by the Dominion and those settled by the Devourer cult.
I could also see a more indepth dive into individual major races. The Azlanti Empire is TEEMING with lifeforms and places to explore. It's big.
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Will the alternate racial traits for playable Near Space races include options for Damai PCs? If so, will owning the book grant Society eligibility for playing a Damai? I have a boon to play a Damai, but the chronicle sheet says I need to own Alien Archive 2. I was curious if owning Near Space would meet those eligibility requirements as well. Thanks for your time and insight, folks.
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Will the book contain any wholly new races or just alternate racial traits for Veskarium native races that have already been statted up?
There are no new playable races in Near Space, but there are alternate racial traits and new class features thematically tied to race for a variety of races native to Near Space (both in the Veskarium and outside it).
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Darimatosh is listed as the “primary” god worshiped in the veskarium. Will we learn more about the gods of Vesk space?
The "core pantheon" of gods presented in the Starfinder Core Rulebook is worshiped as much in the Veskarium as in the Pact Worlds, so there are no new Veskarium-specific gods. There is a brief mention of lesser vesk "demigods" like saints, war heroes, and deified emperors, but they are all very minor and subservient to the Church of Damoritosh, and are not described in greater detail.
Robert G. McCreary
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Will the alternate racial traits for playable Near Space races include options for Damai PCs? If so, will owning the book grant Society eligibility for playing a Damai? I have a boon to play a Damai, but the chronicle sheet says I need to own Alien Archive 2. I was curious if owning Near Space would meet those eligibility requirements as well. Thanks for your time and insight, folks.
There are alternate racial options for damai in the book, but the full rules for them as a player race are still found in Alien Archive 2.
As for what specifically will be allowed in SFS play, the Organized Play team is working on it and will share details as soon as they have them!
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It is kinda lame how much less emphasis Starfinder puts on gods than Pathfinder .-. Like I get the logic, but gods are 100% known to exist so you'd think they would feel less niche in the world outside of Abadarcorp or Sarenites in the sun
In Pathfinder divine magic is very important as the only reliable way to heal disease, something that is not a draw in Starfinder.
In Pathfinder it's also easier to fall for religious propaganda driving you to a particular god for salvation. Starfinder, with mass media, can send a camera crew to the Boneyard to interview psychopomps and verify that yes, you can achieve Heaven, Nirvana, or Elysium without actually worshipping a god if you lead a good life. You may want to join a god's "team" for psychological rewards in this life and to slot yourself into a particular role in the next, but you don't have to.
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It is kinda lame how much less emphasis Starfinder puts on gods than Pathfinder .-. Like I get the logic, but gods are 100% known to exist so you'd think they would feel less niche in the world outside of Abadarcorp or Sarenites in the sun
Ethics and philosophy change with our understanding of the universe. Their definitive existence in the setting serves to weaken their position, if anything.
Why does raw power entitle them to different treatment than other sentients?
Why should we worship an existent and thus flawed and fallible entity?
Can we trust them and their agents as more dogma begins to rub up against science?