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keftiu wrote:
Really giddy to have playable Centaurs and Minotaurs both! I hope we get some good peeks into their various cultures across Golarion, with particular eyes on Iblydos.

That is their origin place I believe, that or somewhere else in Casmaron so it would be cool to get a look at any origin myths.


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So the Thrunes have a Dinosaur....a Fiendish Dinosaur.

*Joyous!*/s


The Barathu being Core is quite interesting to me, especially in the context of Starfinder being cross-compatible with Pathfinder, cause where could I put them in Golarion... Hmm, Hmm, Hmm...

Shirren too, now that I think about it, when it comes to them possibly being on Golarion.


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keftiu wrote:
There was talk of potentially doing Travel Guides for other continents if the first one sold well, and it gets exponentially easier for the team to do further Tian APs with the setting actually written - I’d expect both of those before something like a “Lost Omens: Minkai” deep dive.

I'd buy the f~+% out of that book though


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*Reads the forward material*

Well….HUH.

Now that is an interesting twist for this little tale.


So, will we be able to take classes from Pathfinder and vice versa and be able to slot them into each game with little issue or no? Just curious.


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keftiu wrote:
The Starfinder side of things has never done much for me, but the Field Test's compatibility has gotten me to peek over the line... and I really like what I see! The Soldier feels like what I'd wanted the Gunslinger to be, while having an identity distinct from both that and the Fighter that I really enjoy. Folks often underestimate the challenge of making a mechanically-straightforward martial interesting, but I think they've done exactly that!

Alkenstar and Numeria are calling to you.


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Evan Tarlton wrote:
Wintergreen wrote:
Archpaladin Zousha wrote:
Evan Tarlton wrote:
Super excited for all of this! Also very intrigued by Zon-Shelyn, especially in the context of what we learned in the Pathfinder side of things.

I'm almost afraid to ask; what did we learn on the Pathfinder side of things, exactly?

I was wondering the same thing.
There's going to be a Drift Crisis syle event involving a divine war. One of the Core 20 is going to die.

WHAT?!

Excuse you?! The hell you mean?!

Where was this?!


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So are the Pahtra being added are they replacing an Ancestry?

Love the art.

What the hell do you mean Zon-Shelyn?!

"Super excited for all of this! Also very intrigued by Zon-Shelyn, especially in the context of what we learned in the Pathfinder side of things."

WHAT DO YOU MEAN?!


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Looking at the Players Guide has only increased my desire to crack open Highhelm and start reading, but my back-log is already FULL.


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belgrath9344 wrote:
do we get do we a statock for the cool as hell Giant earth t rex on the cover?

As that is one of the Elemental Lords, and they don't stat "deities" anymore, I do not believe so.


Does anyone else think the Outpost Zed population is exceedingly high??

Over 400k people living in a place only about a kilometer in diameter feels quite off.

I always imagined it having a smaller population due to the art from the Against the Aeon Thrones


So Centaur, Minotaurs and Merfolk are "returning" Ancestries. Curious to see what different cultures we might see hinted at in the Sideblurbs.

Outside of the obvious like, Absalom and Iblydos for the former two, Iobarian for Centaur, and the Inner Sea and Fever Sea groups for Merfolk.

New Ancestries:

Athamaru, Fishfolk that largely reside in Xidao, so will likely make an appearance of some kind first in the Tian Xia book.

Awakened Animals are becoming playable and that has me the most curious as to what that is going to end up being like overall. Because the Badger that is the "iconic" for them has a much more humanoid visage than I assume something like a Horse or the like could take.

And then finally, Surki, Insect People, kinda resemble Mole Crickets or Cicadas. Live underground and only rarely come to the surface in a mass exodus. Recent emergence was caused by the sealing of the Worldwound.


Centaurs and Minotaurs finally joining the playable field is nice, but now I have to wonder, what are they bringing for the other 4 ancestries?

There feels like a trend of familiar faces, like Gnolls/Grippli in the Mwangi Expanse book, and Vanara/Nagaji in the Kingdoms book, other familiar faces coming in the Tian Xia book, but then they also threw out some REALLY wacky folk to play like the utterly alien Conrasu, and the dwarf psychic beetle-rhinos.

So *what* odd folk are they gonna be adding here hmm...


Zimmer: No.

Dabus: Yes.

Necro: Yes.


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Well…I undersold the Katapesh stuff a little bit by accident it seems.

Katapesh:
There is a full blown rebellion brewing in the interior and outside of aid from the Firebrands, most local and many abroad, the Grey Corsairs are actively seeking to take the fight to the Pactmasters


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NECR0G1ANT wrote:

Thank you for sharing. I was curious about how slavery/aboltionism would be handled going forwards.

Do Galt or Geb get mentions?

Geb a few times, Galt is one of the areas discussed with more attention.


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Grankless wrote:
There's an entire AP book in Age of Ashes about interfering with the central slave trade in Katapesh, it isn't exactly "out of nowhere" that that industry would collapse.

Right...you do carve out a sizable chunk of it and the Pactmasters back you doing it if you are savvy enough.


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Benjamin Tait wrote:
So those of you who got the new book, what Silver Raven adjacent NPCs are in this lovely book?

Silver Raven Spoilers:
Laria Longroad, and Rexus Victocorra are mentioned, the Fallow Siblings, and Lady Docur as well. The Sapphire Butterfly and Shensen get pages of their own.ALSO THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SKIP AHEAD, POSSIBLE GLORIOUS RECLAMATION SURVIVORS HELLO????

Numeria:
Well one of the biggest current Firebrand factions is out of Numeria, called the Fire's Finest, they are wandering around Avistan in an Annihilator Robot after their leader worked in Kevoth Kul's court for a bit. There are two other chapters, the Circuit Breakers who are hunting Technic Leaguers, and the Techno Drifters, Cavaliers on Robot Horses

Segada:
Many Segadans do not want the Firebrands in their city and want them gone, while others, mainly youths have been joining up with them to delve into the Interior, but that is really it about Segada.


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keftiu wrote:
VerBeeker wrote:

I would not call what happened in Cheliax “reform.”

Also apparently they lost Khari….and ** spoiler omitted **

Also as I stated before, ** spoiler omitted **

Oh, wow! Canon’s been unclear on Khari - that’s fascinating.

I’m still hoping we get an Alghollthu intrigue plotline across the Golden Road as an AP someday.

It’s literally a throw away line, honestly, but I know this was one of the “Possibilities” in the Hell’s Vengeance AP, where one lore section was all about reactions to the Glorious Reclamation.

The Old Cheliax Map made it seem like they still had it, but apparently not.


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I would not call what happened in Cheliax “reform.”

Also apparently they lost Khari….and

Spoiler:
May lose Ostenso to Andoran.

Also as I stated before,

Spoiler:
Katapesh is on the verge of civil war if not flat out Balkanizing after what happened with the dissolution of the Slave Trade. Social Change *may* be on the way as it is Freedfolk and the Interior natives vs. the Guilds vs the Pactmasters, but I think the real winner is gonna end up being the Aboleth.


Descriptions only.


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zimmerwald1915 wrote:
VerBeeker wrote:
zimmerwald1915 wrote:
VerBeeker wrote:
The Expanse, Old Cheliax, The Shackles, Galt and Katapesh get larger sections detailing current activities
Do all of them involve being more or less explicit agents of state foreign policies, or only most of them?

Huh??

I think it's a fair question, considering the major canonical Firebrand activities mentioned up to now were acting as a freelance arm of Vidrian's intelligence service and navy, and playing footsie with Lictor Vidoc's wholesome (sic.) Hellknights.

Not all Firebrands are tied to Vidrian. In fact most of the ones mentioned have very little connection to Vidrian outside it being acknowledged that the Salt Breakers and Silver Raven’s began the movement.

One of the biggest factions are from Numeria.

It’s a very loose, shifting alliance with new factions joining as is their whim.


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NECR0G1ANT wrote:

Paizo said they weren't publishing anything related to slavery. How does the book treat Cheliax, Okeno, Andoran, etc?

BTW, I appreciate Lost Omens for setting information and the context it gives to adventures and player character options (ancestries, classes etc.) Mechanics such as ancestries or backgrounds are fine, but I dislike the mini-adventures.

Also, mini-adventure should be in their own chapter, not sprinkled in with player options. Book of the Dead handled it well, Dark Archive not so much.

No mention of Okeno, thought Andoran is allied with the Firebrands by and large.

Katapesh:
Katapesh is on the verge of Civil War, following a series of events that did include the emancipation of the slave population, but shit definitely ain't hunky-dory. The rebels have named themselves Firebrands, the Pactmasters are buffering their guards with Gnolls, the local Guilds seek a coup and the entire time the False Hashim is likely still plotting

Cheliax:
Abrogail, ended True Slavery in Cheliax...by tricking the newly free into signing a binding contract that demands obligatory military service, outlaw retributions against Slave-Owners in any sense, and saddles the newly freed with life-long monetary debt to the Crown. Not all of its clauses have been ferreted out, and while the Firebrands are trying to get the workout, things aren't exactly falling into place easily, and many unaligned lawyers in the country have been recognizing how predatory the Act actually is and may actually be able to pull one over on the Thrunes


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zimmerwald1915 wrote:
VerBeeker wrote:
The Expanse, Old Cheliax, The Shackles, Galt and Katapesh get larger sections detailing current activities
Do all of them involve being more or less explicit agents of state foreign policies, or only most of them?

Huh??


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keftiu wrote:
VerBeeker wrote:

Got my copy! Time to read.

*Looks at the changes in Cheliax* That….is quite unexpected.

Can I ask what the other regions profiled are? I assume Old Cheliax and the High Seas at a minimum.

Knights of Lastwall spared a paragraph or so each for operations in Arcadia and Tian Xia; do the Firebrands get the same here?

The Expanse, Old Cheliax, The Shackles, Galt and Katapesh get larger sections detailing current activities

But the thing about Cheliax that caught my eye initially and then gets expounded upon us in the History sidebars.


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Got my copy! Time to read.

*Looks at the changes in Cheliax* That….is quite unexpected.


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Playable Tanuki, Kaiju worship, Lore Updates! I'm gonna be eating well!

Also this gives me hope...hope that one day I will see Southern Garund, and my fabled Droon!


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Novians... one of my players was trying so hard to figure out a Novakid-style species and here it is, pretty cool.


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*Looks up sin* It looks like a mole, and godzilla had a baby.

Also how is Sakuachi a Mary Sue...


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I know this is probably only for this AP, but the entry on the Lake of Mists and Veils, PEAK in my opinion. I loved the detailing of not just local life, but Cryptids claimed to exist in the area, I would love to see more stuff like that in other APs keep the Occult/Mystery stuff flowing even in snippets.


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I want Lost Omens to stay Lore, it specifically what I read them for.

Be...be real nice if we could uh...go South though, to a place that rhymes with Boon, maybe??

But since the Dark Omens book keeps getting brought up, I didn't care for it very much at all, as it was nothing like what I expected. I wanted more info about the Occult not just rules and scenarios. Like I wanted lore about Cryptids...and that wasn't really there are all. I know it was a rule book, but I would hate to see the Lost Omens books end up looking like that in any fashion.


Feel like there has to be with the introduction of two new Planes of Existence.


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keftiu wrote:
James Sutter wrote:
Sasha Laranoa Harving wrote:
keftiu wrote:
Side note: who wrote the Castrovel gazetteer? It’s awesome.

Table of contents says James L. Sutter wrote the adventure and the Castrovel gazetteer, while he and Patrick Renie cowrote the adventure toolbox.

I like that the table of contents for AP volumes notes who contributed to which sections.

I couldn't pass up the chance to write another Castrovel gazetteer. Between Distant Worlds and the Starfinder Core Rulebook/SFAP #2/Pact Worlds, I'm apparently on a 5-year orbit... better mark my calendar for 2028! :D
Lost Omens: Castrovel would be a dream! We’ll see you in five years :p

I’d love that but if it comes out before Southern Garund, I’m rioting.


I am really curious to know what Sakuachi's destiny is...


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That reviewer really is out here acting like Golarion hasn’t had Lovecraft/Science-Fantasy elements since the beginning


If you want a *deep* delve into lore of Golarion, I’d argue reading the Mwangi Expanse, Absalom or Impossible Lands books, the former in my opinion being the best of the lot, though Absalom got my conspiracy fiction Brain cooking on over drive.


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Man, whomever wrote the Nex entries really wasn't pulling punches. They ripped the whole deal to shreds XD. It's great.


Leon Aquilla wrote:
Are those Formians?

Xiomorns.


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I'm betting this is tied to Taargick and the letter he left the Donguni King in some fashion.


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That is a *sick* cover!

Xiomorns and Ayrzul vs Yoon.

Also, the Plane of Metal is decaying eh? A curious bit of info!


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They all have paw feet on the cover


David knott 242 wrote:
VerBeeker wrote:
Leon Aquilla wrote:
Since we seem to be playing "Who's that Bestiary entry" -- what's the creature on the cover?
A Sphinx and several Maftets

If those are Maftets, they have definitely reimagined them from the way they looked in PF1.

Aren't Maftet's smaller more humanoid Sphinx?


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Overall I have quite enjoyed this book, and honestly I would be down for another that delves into other ancestries, it would be interesting to see a bit more on where the more "common" Golarion races land in the setting.


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So something stood out to me about the Nuar entry, well two things really.

It states that they have no ancestral gods/mythic figures, yet in Galactic Magic there is a Nuar Goddess named Isvith, who may have ascended through the Starstone, and her portfolio is central to the Nuar way of life. So...I imagine that got missed by accident?

Also are Minotaurs still around? They get mentioned a lot in the entry and I am not certain if that means they are still kicking somewhere or are the Nuar is all that remains of that ancestry.


Huh I got my copy and I noticed that Gathols and Tromlins are missing from the playable species list.


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Leon Aquilla wrote:
Since we seem to be playing "Who's that Bestiary entry" -- what's the creature on the cover?

A Sphinx and several Maftets


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My copy went out so I got my copy, and I have to say, loving the art in this book.

Spoilers:
I find it interesting that they focus heavily on the larger cities in the bigger nations and give them their own subsections. Bhopan is an intriguing-looking place from a cursory glance, and the Gods in this book are WILD looking. I love the Kashrishi, and how varied the Nagaji are in appearance, making the Lamia, Sneeple, and Yuan-ti fans proud.


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*No, Largetaurs or bust!* If you can play Tiny, you can play large!

*Plants Flag of the Big Bois into the Ground* If Starfinder can have Giants I can have a Minotaur of 10 feet!


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The Kashrishi are *way* weirder than I thought they'd be, I dig it.

Also looking at one of the main factions in the Mana Wastes, I'm surprised to see hints of Hispanic theming.

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