From what I can tell with what they did when it came to the Hells vengeance stuff it seems like they killed the leader of the glorious reclamation. Had a handful of those soldiers survive and have to go into hiding and did part of the ritual to corrupt Iomedae’s old sword by using it to slaughter her followers in Egorian.
I don’t see Abrogail being removed from the throne or as a threat, as it feels like they’ve removed a number of longstanding threats as of late. Heck they’ve even tied up the Ashen Man plot as far as I can tell.
I’d like to believe that allow some to still be around for at least a while longer
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zimmerwald1915 wrote: VerBeeker wrote: Hey that’s my write up! Is any attention paid to Pezzack in the book? Not an ounce.
Same with no signs of rebellion in Corentyn, and barely any mention of Ravounel or the Strix.
So I think they are saving ALL that for Hell's Destiny
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Kavlor wrote: I'd like to point out that the available war notes from Hellfire Dispatches show that it's actually a very good book, especially compared to Hellbreakers, which I personally have a very low opinion of due to its simplification of many complex topics. But Hellfire Dispatches actually presents a very sober view of the war effort, without excessively glorifying the brave and kind people of Andoran fighting against Cheliax. Here is lore compilation from book: https://www.reddit.com/r/Pathfinder2e/comments/1s2fcu5/lost_omens_hellfire_ dispatches_lore_updates/
Hey that’s my write up!
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vyshan wrote: I am going to assume that all the drow stuff is just going to be retconned away. I mean not all of it. Zirnakaynin is still there.
What’s *living* there now, who knows but apparently it’s bad.
PossibleCabbage wrote: I think a large part of why they're hesitant to set adventures in Nidal is because of some of the really icky Hellraiser stuff from an edgier era of Pathfinder is sort of canonically true about Nidal. Like "torture" is called out as a thing not to portray on screen in the Pathfinder baseline and the Nidalese make an art and a(n) (un)holy pursuit of it.
They could try to fix this aspect of Nidalese culture in a storyline, but somehow I don't think we get a "kinder-gentler Zon-Kuthon" any time soon.
Absolutely, we do not. They are ABUNDANTLY clear how horrible fighting a Velstrac is in gruesome detail.
vyshan wrote: All the spoilery content about Nidal is making me wish we had an AP set there. that sounds like juicy juicy story seeds :D
Still not touching on the proto-swarm concept that they introduced lurking in the Uskwood either.
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keftiu wrote: Eager to know more about the situation in Khari.
zimmerwald1915 wrote: VerBeeker wrote: ** spoiler omitted ** ** spoiler omitted ** Their enemies are capable of routing and destroying even the most powerful of their extraplanar allies. Probably should a little bit.
Oh and I forgot
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So I finished reading the Hellfire Dispatches.
Major events include:

Veltharis wrote: Fundamentally, I'm still in "wait and see" mode, but the glimpses we've been getting thus far look to me as though Cheliax is being stripped for parts.
Corentyn becoming it's own independent naval power (and implicitly retaining control over the Arch of Aroden, which would be leveraged into economic power) seems a pretty dubious prospect to me if they don't seize a significant chunk of Chelaxian land in the process. We know Hell's Destiny is going to involve Corentyn, Khari, and the Hellcoast, so it seems a sensible assumption that these will likely be part of the newly independent nation. But the city of Corentyn is the capital of the Archduchy of Longmarch, which makes up a solid half of Cheliax's Inner Sea coastline, including the former capital of Westcrown, and I similarly don't think it's too unreasonable to think that at least some of that territory would also end up going to Corentyn.
But then, with the Arch of Aroden no longer in Chelaxian hands, Cheliax's navy (headquartered in Osteno) is now basically locked in the Inner Sea, where the only thing they can really do (beyond defending their shoreline from and/or striking at Corentyn and Andoran) would be to harass ships passing through the Inner Sea.
According to yesterday's Paizo Live, Cheliax still has the largest navy in the Inner Sea. A hefty chunk of that, possibly even up to half, is definitely going to Corentyn, but that would still essentially leave the Chelaxian navy in position to cause all manner of trade disruptions for the Inner Sea region and little reason not to do so, which in turn makes me think that Corentyn and Andoran have little reason to let them keep a navy of any sort once the war is over. So while it's more of a stretch, I wouldn't be too surprised if the Archduchy of Sirmium ends up in Corentyn or Andoran's possession as well, quite possibly divvying up Cheliax's entire southern coastline between the victors and confining it to the Heartlands and Menador Mountains. Would also have the benefit of putting the Aspodean...
I think this far overestimates what is likely going to happen when it comes to Corentyn. I see it being namely locked to the peninusla the city sits on.
Scorchhome as far as I can tell is just the Chitterwood.
I can see Ravounel taking Pezzack, but I don't think we're going to see much if any of Longmarch(Beyond the peninsula) or Sirmium going to Corentyn.
Andoran getting some territory *might* happen, but I doubt we're going to see Thrune Cheliax locked into the interior.
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Didn't see anything about Lost Omens. Is the pricing staying the same??
I got Hellbreakers and there is a lot of juicy content in it so I'm not entirely preturbed spending a bit more especially since it is less frequent but I am likely going to need to be more sparing with my purchases if Lost Omens, my main draw and the Rulebooks are both going to be more expensive.
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You know, one thing I wish they had carried forward after Dark Archive an Gatewalkers is the Cryptids section in the different setting blurbs. Really enjoyed that flavor in the Lake of Mists and Veils read through.
I am not able to buy the pdf for the Into the Apocalypse Archive, it's only available for wishlighting
Jim Butler wrote: VerBeeker wrote: Still completely unable to download pdfs on Mobile from the new Library. Thanks. I've confirmed this and we'll toss it back to the developer.
-Jim Thank you
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Still completely unable to download pdfs on Mobile from the new Library.
Maya Coleman wrote: VerBeeker wrote: Are product discussions not a thing anymore?? You cannot do them directly on the pages any more, but you can absolutely create a forum thread about any product you'd like to talk about in its proper location! Understood
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I am adding the hell out of these to my homebrew.
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I’m not able to download any PDFs in the new library on mobile
Are product discussions not a thing anymore??
So do we have all of the OG DnD caste's replacements now??
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Berselius wrote: So on top of planning for a new war with Nex (and possibly other parts of Garund) Geb is now diplomatically approaching Absalom's leaders? Sounds like he wants to make sure the various powers of Avistan don't get involved in what he's plotting. He might be looking for something more, after all, the Spire of Nex is still sitting there outside Absalom's walls.
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So Geb and Absalom are entering into diplomatic relations… *turns and looks at the Knights of Lastwall and Nex* that certainly won’t have any long standing effects in this period of time that is apparently going to be known as the Inner Sea War.
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They are coming with the Tech Core, the GM Guide mentions that as the source for them and the Verthani.
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*My brain looking at the twenty-one incoming ancestries and my desire to make an integrated Golarion using facets of Starfinder ancestries.*
Oh boy, Curchanus, we're really in it now...
I will buying the *f%@+* out of this book.
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*Narrowing eyes at the guy on the back of the mirage dragon, notably at his staff*
Is…. Is that…. Krune??
Andoran allying by accident with a bunch of Daemons would be an interesting twist.
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I canonized Ember from the game in my setting, which is working really fun cause the paladin is grappling with the fact he helped ascend a new divinity and as her first true believer needs some pointers.
Also I just realized that the Trinity Star is mentioned several times before in connection with Opir Eightfingers, so I am curious to see if he shows up at all.
The art shows a bunch of strix fighting alongside the Eagle Knights, don’t the live closer to Pezzack and Ravounel??
See a lot of comments dismissing Ravounel’s involvement but isn’t the second Hellfire Crisis AP supposed to be focused on the west coast?
Like you know where Ravounel is alongside the Strix and Pezzack?
Also i had though the Inner Sea War would involve more nations, but so far it just seems like Andoran vs Cheliax with Isgeri rebels on the side.
Is this just the beginning??
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Also very curious about this
Curious to get an in depth look at Isger! Also *cults* as in multiple, for Urgothoa?
Where the heck are folks getting the idea that Sarenrae is only attached to the Pact Worlds Sun from??
Also, I get it, wanting to focus on other gods, but I think moving away from Desna was a mistake, I mean, she's legit the goddess of STARS!
Same for Iomedae when the Knights of Golarion are still presented as one of the major factions in the galaxy. Like, we never even learned how she lost her arm.
And I'm not gonna lie, a fair few of the replacements don't really pop to me all that much
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*Kicks open door holding a Shobhad Guardian* Blunt yourself against the Wall!
Good to know was wondering if it was worth a purchase when it comes to setting stuff, don’t have anyone to play the game with at the moment.
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*eyes locked on the little cobra person*
Now, what are you??
Any interesting lore bits anyone wants to share?
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Arkat wrote: I *really* hope the artwork for the Jotunborn gets better. What is wrong with it??? I like it
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Excited to finally get a “face” to the region but I am more excited to learn about the nations neighboring them!
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If Grimmyr is a foot or two taller than a Spinesnapper that puts him between ten and eleven feet tall.
Also, I love him.
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mortalheraldnyx wrote: “May Sarenrae find a dead rat in her most holy breakfast” might be a line that sticks in my head forever haha I never really considered how bad photophobia might be for formerly subterranean peoples, but it works here (assuming that’s what is described in the story anyway).
Anyway, sorry to you, Ulka, I think you’ve earned that devotion whether you like it or not. Fun story!
See I was stuck wondering if gods actually have breakfast and what they’d prefer…
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She’s gonna get a Vow Mark by spite and unwanted devotion alone.
A Crucible for the Unwilling War-Hero!
Master Han Del of the Web wrote: VerBeeker wrote: Really enjoyed this one, I’m also wondering now if we’ll ever see her achieve Battle Saint status. Maybe if we get some new mythic callings/destinies for SF2e Oh I hadn’t even thought of that….
Hmm…
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Really enjoyed this one, I’m also wondering now if we’ll ever see her achieve Battle Saint status.
Berselius wrote: Wait, did Iblydos manage to kill that Thalassic Behemoth that the gods sent to punish them for creating (and relying on) hero-gods out of mortals?
Also, quick side note, we gonna get Behemoths back someday in 2nd ed Pathfinder Paizo? No rush of course, just askin. ;)
They have not, it's still lurking around, it's noted that Merfolk and Athamaru communities keep track of it and warn the surface cities of it getting near.
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