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technarken wrote:
technarken on November 2, 2018 wrote:
The sad part is with Armory Starfinder was reaching the threshold of playability for me (I like having a lot of content), but any time I think about Starfinder now I associate it with getting ripped off, lied to, and strung along for half a year by people I gave hundreds of dollars to.
The fulfillment of this Kickstarter, whether through receiving all the miniatures from the $400 level, receiving a full refund, $200 in Paizo credit, or some similar level of recompense is all I need here. After that I have no problem hopping into the game. There are Starfinder games I'm eager to join once playing doesn't feel like a sleazebath

But what I'm asking is will that feeling go away once you've received your recompense?

Not buying any more Starfinder products I can understand, but not using the ones you already have/have access to? Not playing them isn't going to get your minis to you faster, and this feeling will most likely continue to fester.

You said there's games you're eager to join? Will they still be early and open by the time this is resolved? Or will you have missed out?


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technarken wrote:
I know I can, but the "I spent $400+ on miniatures for this game I still haven't got yet and likely never will" feeling ruins the whole experience. The guilt of being scammed is a powerful sensation that permeates every aspect of the Starfinder system, and it will continue to make it unplayable for me until this matter is properly resolved.

Will it?

(hopefully) When you finally get your minis will you play, get others to play? Or will you still refuse to do so?


J-Bone wrote:
Rysky the Dark Solarion wrote:
J-Bone wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Even if Ninja Division had been sailing along flawlessly with a lively resin line, we would still be working with WizKids on Starfinder Battles.

Shame you guys just didn't wait instead of exposing your fan base to risk.

In that alternate universe we’d still be here, it’d just be a thread on why they didn’t go with someone else other than Wizkids to get Starfinder minis sooner.

and I'd be $500 richer and playing Starfinder

You can play Starfinder now.


J-Bone wrote:
Vic Wertz wrote:
Even if Ninja Division had been sailing along flawlessly with a lively resin line, we would still be working with WizKids on Starfinder Battles.

Shame you guys just didn't wait instead of exposing your fan base to risk.

In that alternate universe we’d still be here, it’d just be a thread on why they didn’t go with someone else other than Wizkids to get Starfinder minis sooner.


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Oooo...


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Summersnow wrote:
When people tell you not to trust Ninja Divisions and suggest repeatedly using wizkids instead
As was pointed out, WizKids was Paizo's first choice, and they unfortunately turned them down. This was brought up early in the KS.
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its pretty classless, distasteful and incredibly insulting to come back AFTER you help screw the backers and tell them your going to put out the product many wanted, but only if there willing to spend more money
So to go off my original question you responded to, you don't think there should be any Starfinder mini at all until ND puts them out? People want Starfinder minis, not everyone who does went in on the Kickstarter.
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I stand by my previous comment. This is nothign more then a distraction and stall until "Jazz Hands: Wizkids minis are in stores now"
A distraction and stall... for what exactly? Are you going to stop bringing this up once they're released? Are you afraid you and everyone else posting in here is going to get banned when they are?
stephen donohue wrote:
To me if paizo had any confidence in ninja division they wouldn’t be arranging for someone else to also publish the line.
They have confidence as they've stated in ND producing the minis that were pledged for. I do not foresee Paizo continuing to work with ND afterwards.
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All that said people keep referring to an ‘nda’ but even if there is one in place there is nothing stopping the release of information provided both parties consent.

They may very well be, especially since this is a company to company NDA and not a person to person one. None of us have any idea what is all in said NDAs.


*side eyes the humans*


Nyerkh wrote:
PF's evil iconics broke the mold a bit, but they're only iconics in a very loose sense. They were more random sample evil characters than anything.

Seltyiel (Magus) and Meligaster (Mesmerist) are both Evil Iconics, why I was calling the others specifically Hell's Vengeance rather than just Evil.


We've only had the core Iconics, and then these new ones, so thus far not that much of a rule.


Damanta wrote:

Those iconics were specific for that adventure path though, and only in that AP did they give the antipaladin an iconic.

All the other classes' iconics in hardcovers are from the core races.

That doesn't change the fact that they have indeed had non-core races as Iconics.

And again there's the Iconic-not-Iconic Aasimar Antipaladin that's been around since Ultimate Combat.


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They've used non-core races for Iconics before, in a system with the main selling point being lots of alien races it seemed perfectly reasonable to have other races play the new Iconics, rather than give us another human.


Xenocrat wrote:
I like that they crushed the spirits of the people who thought, despite all evidence, logic, and history to the contrary, that Paizo might ever pick a non-core race as an iconic.

"despite all evidence, logic, and history to the contrary,"

Iconic-even-though-we-say-he-isn't-but-use-him-exactly-same-way-as-one Antipaladin: Aasimar

Hell's Vengeance Iconics

Nyctessa: Dhampir
Urgraz: Duergar
Emil Kovkorin: Tiefling


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Starfinder, praised for having dozens of varied alien races to pick from.

Here have another human.


MUAHAHAHA :3


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Rectified by John Compton ^w^


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I'd say they're more like crests than horns.


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ALIEN VALKYRIE! GIMMEGIMMEGIMME!


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Iceman1077 wrote:
If the new Wizkids minis show up before there is a resolution for this, I don't know that I can put any more trust in Paizo.

So Wizkids isn't allowed to produce minis until another company does? They're [Wizkids] are coming out next year, that's not a large time frame.


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pretty


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A wild daddy appears!


Pantshandshake wrote:
For cultural reasons, Vlaka born blind or deaf are left blind or deaf, despite easy techno-medical fixes for those conditions.

Those conditions aren't addressed at birth no, but I didn't read that they prohibited it either, and in fact some do. So parents won't decide on surgery for something non-life threatening for the child and instead let them decide.

Also there's the fact that Vlaka actually get innate abilities to offset being either blind or deaf.

Other than that I'm not as informed as much on the subject concerning the blind and deaf communities so I'll leave it at that.


I missed something, what's the abuse in question?


More Crystal goodness!


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Deadmanwalking wrote:
For example, in Starfinder, there was a Solarian NPC who could shoot bolts of energy as a ranged attack. PCs immediately wanted this ability, and there was widespread annoyance when they couldn't get it (since there was no listed PC version anywhere). There wasn't anything special or different about said NPC that resulted in him having an ability no PC could ever acquire (and one that was thematically perfect for the Class in question), he just had it arbitrarily. which is why there were feelings of resentment and complaints.

Yep, I even forecalled it.


Yeah that is definitely the intention, they’re in the cults sections.


.... why did it use that alias???


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Tristian isn't a good example for a typical follower of Sarenrae.


CorvusMask wrote:
Rysky the Dark Solarion wrote:
VerBeeker wrote:
Rysky the Dark Solarion wrote:

"Love" The Forgiven, since that highlights a lot of the issues I have with Sarenrae and her religion.

Also, SKITTERMANDER GUMMI VITAMINS!!!!

The Forgiven?
A cult within the Saranite religion, their thing is a warped importance of forgiveness, namely it’s the most important thing so we can do whatever we please and we can get forgiven for it, win-win.

Umm, isn't that more of Shelyn thing?

I mean, Sarenites come across as more "Repent or burn!" type thing when made extreme

Emphasis on “extreme”.

Sarenrae’s main thing is redemption.


VerBeeker wrote:
Rysky the Dark Solarion wrote:

"Love" The Forgiven, since that highlights a lot of the issues I have with Sarenrae and her religion.

Also, SKITTERMANDER GUMMI VITAMINS!!!!

The Forgiven?

A cult within the Saranite religion, their thing is a warped importance of forgiveness, namely it’s the most important thing so we can do whatever we please and we can get forgiven for it, win-win.


Jason Keeley wrote:
More like GIANT skittermander gummy vitamins!

HOOOOOOOOLY crap i missed that, these things are awesome!


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"Love" The Forgiven, since that highlights a lot of the issues I have with Sarenrae and her religion.

Also, SKITTERMANDER GUMMI VITAMINS!!!!


Jason Keeley wrote:
thecursor wrote:
Jason Keeley wrote:
Sparrowhawk_92 wrote:
These are all fantastic. I just want confirmation that undines can breathe underwater on launch and I will be happy.

I hate to make you unhappy, but undines can't breathe underwater, unless they activate the environmental protections of their armor!

Pathfinder undines were aquatic and amphibious only with an alternate racial trait. Talk to your GM about doing a similar switch!

Which is why it's time for you to create planet of the Gillmen, MISTER Keeley!
We already have kalo! What more do you want from me?!?

Moar

MOAR


Steve Geddes wrote:
I don't know. It seemed to me that things calmed down for a while when Erik posted his latest comments.

I was specifically referring to the "even if it's 'unfortunately we can't discuss that at this time'" request.


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Ninjaphoenix wrote:
If the higher ups can't spend 10 minutes coming here to answer 1 or 2 questions, even if it's "unfortunately we can't discuss that at this time"; that to me, is just as bad a Ninja Divisions "radio silence"

As this thread has repeatedly shown, that won't abate anything. It will just make people angrier.


thecursor wrote:
Rysky the Dark Solarion wrote:
I tried, there are parts I love and parts I hate. I'm not completely opposed to playing it again, though, and Dawn of Flame looks promising.
I'm three books into Dawn of Flame and it's so good that it frustrates me that they didn't start with an AP this good.

Yay!


Yay!


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SCSi wrote:
Isn't too hard really to pop in and say "Im working on it" or "Another meeting with ND, no real progress", especially when the CS team is prodding for some scrap of info to throw at us.

This was the exact same thing being demanded from CS and as soon as Sara Marie obliged people continued to complain so I’m unsure of any goodwill this would provide.


Metaphysician wrote:
Rysky the Dark Solarion wrote:
Metaphysician wrote:
This is because whatever species they choose as core species, will be the ones that the majority of players will play, and which will have a strong demand for further background information.
Not really.
So, do you actually have any logic you are interested in explaining? Or is your reply little more than "Nu-huh"?

Aasimar and Teiflings have always been highly popular to play, and they’ve never been Core, for example.


Metaphysician wrote:
This is because whatever species they choose as core species, will be the ones that the majority of players will play, and which will have a strong demand for further background information.

Not really.


Chouru wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Chouru wrote:
Is this suddenly available for purchase??? It wasn't supposed to be available until the 24th but it seems that is not the case... anyone know if this is for real?
You can subscribe/preorder it now, but the street date isn’t until the 24th.
Ok but they just posted a video on YouTube saying available now and on this page it changed from "preorder" to "Add Print Edition." Its just confusing is all.

*nods*

If you put in an order now you'll probably get it around or a little after the street date is what it is.


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Burro-crat wrote:
No, it's this type of trollish behavior from the apologists that doesn't help.
*sigh*
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And being mean? Silas thanked Diego Valdez. I would like to thank him, too. I think people have been generally courteous to Sara Marie, too.

I'd read the whole thread.


Silas Stadatilas wrote:
Rysky the Dark Solarion wrote:
Silas Stadatilas wrote:
Customer Service says they are here, they should be able to answer each and everyone of these questions.
Customer Service deals with us, not Ninja Division. Sara Marie only recently got to start sitting in on the meeting between them and Paizo.

My questions deal 100% with Customer Service dealing with their co-workers at Paizo. I would not expect them to work with or contact Ninja Division.

I was not aware that Sara Marie was sitting in on 'the meeting' between Ninja Division and Paizo. I certainly hope there has been more than one meeting and I look forward to Sara Marie providing a substantive update of what occurred at those meetings.

Sara Marie, how many meetings have you attended between Ninja Division and Paizo? Can you update us as to what occurred?

*dig dig dig*

Ah, my apologies. She got to sit in on one meeting.


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Silas Stadatilas wrote:
Customer Service says they are here, they should be able to answer each and everyone of these questions.

Customer Service deals with us, not Ninja Division. Sara Marie only recently got to start sitting in on the meeting between them and Paizo.


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Eternally Lost Boy wrote:
Rysky the Dark Solarion wrote:
Eternally Lost Boy wrote:

okay I realize this is a silly question to ask here on volume 4 of this particular AP but, this has me a bit confused. First off thanks to the people over at Paizo for putting out this particular AP I have to admit the swarm have been one of the topics and concepts that has frequently been one of the things that have intrigued me most about starfinder.

But I've looked through the alien codexes I've been able to obtain at this point and with all the references people have been making to the Zerg and Tyranids etc. I feel a little confused I was hoping someone could clarify what the difference or differences were between say the Paizo race known as the Hive or the Dominions of the Black? Because from what I've seen popping up they seem similar enough that figuring out the core identity of the race or what really sets them apart is becoming a bit tricky.
Sorry for the goofy question.

The DoB are more lovecraftian in nature, dealing with damaging the mind and warping the flesh, the Swarm are more about augmenting themselves.

If you’re talking about the Hive from Pathfinder they’re basically the Aliens from the film series of the same name.

So more bio ships or very gigantic transport creatures to travel between the stars.

The former is definitely a DoB thing (not sure what the Swarm use but wouldn’t put the latter past em).


Eternally Lost Boy wrote:

okay I realize this is a silly question to ask here on volume 4 of this particular AP but, this has me a bit confused. First off thanks to the people over at Paizo for putting out this particular AP I have to admit the swarm have been one of the topics and concepts that has frequently been one of the things that have intrigued me most about starfinder.

But I've looked through the alien codexes I've been able to obtain at this point and with all the references people have been making to the Zerg and Tyranids etc. I feel a little confused I was hoping someone could clarify what the difference or differences were between say the Paizo race known as the Hive or the Dominions of the Black? Because from what I've seen popping up they seem similar enough that figuring out the core identity of the race or what really sets them apart is becoming a bit tricky.
Sorry for the goofy question.

The DoB are more lovecraftian in nature, dealing with damaging the mind and warping the flesh, the Swarm are more about augmenting themselves.

If you’re talking about the Hive from Pathfinder they’re basically the Aliens from the film series of the same name.


Jason Keeley wrote:
Asmodeus's Dad wrote:

Player's Guide - Good! Though with the much smaller page count of the Starfinder AP books, these should really be free pdf's like the Pathfinder counterparts. Not taking up page count in the book itself and much more readily available to the players as that is the target audience.

The Player's Guide in this AP is a bit of experiment to see how well it is received within the volume itself. It contains information that would have normally gone at the beginning of the adventure, giving the adventure a bit of room to breath but also a couple of new themes and pieces of equipment, so it should hopefully be worth the price of admission!

So is the PG at the back of the book or?


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The only thing I can think of is the "Meet the Iconics" blogs. And there's a starfinder comic attached to the Spiral of Bones comic (both excellent).


There's a few, just sort by latest/newest. None are specifically tagged "Starfinder" I believe.


*blink* *blink*


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Awesome, Kate!

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