I am sad that Paizo didn't deicide to murder the sacred cow of alignment interacting with rules. Oh well, I guess we'll still have "how many castings of death knell on dying space-chickes do I need to break bad?" threads after all.Amen brother. My fondest hope is that one day, Alignment will be taken out, burned and then the ashes scattered to the wind, with the sole exception of spiritual beings such as angels and demons.
But why?
In Pathfinder (and I think this applies to Starfinder as well) alignment is quantifyable. You have detect spells, alignment auras, protection from spells, and items.
These things have to interact with other rules.
It took us long enough from getting a vague "casting spells with the [evil]-descriptor is an evil act and might change your alignment (check with your GM)" ruling to a less vague "if you are neutral and cast 3 [evil] spells in a short period of time (check with your GM), your alignment should change to evil"
Huh? Where does it say that?
Ah, interesting. I'll have to look that up. I would still argue, though, that it should depend on the spell. There should be a difference between casting protection from good and casting, for example, wracking ray. But that doesn't really belong in this thread.
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Ah, interesting. I'll have to look that up. I would still argue, though, that it should depend on the spell. There should be a difference between casting protection from good and casting, for example, wracking ray. But that doesn't really belong in this thread.
Oh I agree, but that wasn't really feasible to do in that book for every spell unfortunately :3
But enough about Pathfidner, back to Starfinder!
SOLARIONS!
But why?
Because of this like this:
In Pathfinder (and I think this applies to Starfinder as well) alignment is quantifyable. You have detect spells, alignment auras, protection from spells, and items.
These things have to interact with other rules.
It took us long enough from getting a vague "casting spells with the [evil]-descriptor is an evil act and might change your alignment (check with your GM)" ruling to a less vague "if you are neutral and cast 3 [evil] spells in a short period of time (check with your GM), your alignment should change to evil"
Chief Technical Officer
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Please keep the product discussion threads focused. Discussion of your expectations for the system as a whole would be better placed in the Starfinder General Discussion forum.
This goes for discussion of specific rules or systems (such as alignment) as well. Thanks.
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At first, I wasn't sure about Starfinder (for while yes, it is a stand-alone game in it's own right). But, after seeing that it is a spiritual sequel to Pathfinder, I'm quite interested in getting it. The envoy would be the class for me with the android being my choice of race.
Indeed, I'm starting to think up some homebrews that take place AFTER Starfinder (they would basically be Pathfinder homebrews still, but story wise keep all of the events and features of Starfinder) where Golarion has been mysteriously returned and a new deity named Omnia has made it's presence known (I actually attempted to make this deity already, check out the General Discussion thread in Pathfinder, look for Jurassic Bard).
Does anyone have their copy yet.
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Does anyone have their copy yet.
Anyone who does is under an NDA.
The earliest anyone can possibly get their subscriber PDFs is a week from today.
Does anyone have their copy yet.Anyone who does is under an NDA.
The earliest anyone can possibly get their subscriber PDFs is a week from today.
How did you get to that day? I'm asking for a friend...
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Does anyone have their copy yet.Anyone who does is under an NDA.
The earliest anyone can possibly get their subscriber PDFs is a week from today.
I thought PDFs weren't getting unlocked until the 17th, regardless?
-Skeld
There hasn't been anything saying that - There was some early speculation that there might be that restriction, given that we had the same restriction on the Pathfinder CRB, but nothing official from Paizo.
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Does anyone have their copy yet.Anyone who does is under an NDA.
The earliest anyone can possibly get their subscriber PDFs is a week from today.
I thought PDFs weren't getting unlocked until the 17th, regardless?
-Skeld
Nope, subscriber shipping starts normally on july 31st (including all Starfinder products) and i bet that you will be among the first to be able to download the pdfs, as usual. ;-)
Thx again for all the time you spend informing us non-subscribers of what to expect. :-)
How did you get to that day? I'm asking for a friend...Does anyone have their copy yet.Anyone who does is under an NDA.
The earliest anyone can possibly get their subscriber PDFs is a week from today.
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Does anyone have their copy yet.Anyone who does is under an NDA.
The earliest anyone can possibly get their subscriber PDFs is a week from today.
I thought PDFs weren't getting unlocked until the 17th, regardless?
-Skeld
Nope, subscriber shipping starts normally on july 31st (including all Starfinder products) and i bet that you will be among the first to be able to download the pdfs, as usual. ;-)
Thx again for all the time you spend informing us non-subscribers of what to expect. :-)
That'd be nice. Since they bin up the subs/orders for efficiency, we don't know what the addition of new subs will do to the workflow. I might end on the tail end of things.
-Skeld
How did you get to that day? I'm asking for a friend...Does anyone have their copy yet.Anyone who does is under an NDA.
The earliest anyone can possibly get their subscriber PDFs is a week from today.
Thank you!
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Soon! Shipping starts on the 31st (I'm not going to Gen Con). I guess we'll see if PDF is delayed until Gen Con or not. I'm probably not going to be first due to having unrelated items in sidecart, so I'll be counting on you Skeld! ;)
Still waiting patiently to do my preorder before GenCon.. Just checked and pickup isnt a listed option yet.
Woo, my card was charged! But shipping was almost the price of the book again! I don't think I can keep this subscription going.
Still waiting patiently to do my preorder before GenCon.. Just checked and pickup isnt a listed option yet.
To pick up your August subscription order you must have this option selected by July 26th!
Looks like you missed the deadline.
Woo, my card was charged! But shipping was almost the price of the book again! I don't think I can keep this subscription going.
what shipping speed did you pick?
If you didn't choose the one where they deliver it last year you did not choose the right one. Always got to click that time travel option. sure it charges more but boy is it worth it.
Woo, my card was charged! But shipping was almost the price of the book again! I don't think I can keep this subscription going.what shipping speed did you pick?
The cheapest but international shipping from the US is prohibitively high.
The cheapest but international shipping from the US is prohibitively high.Woo, my card was charged! But shipping was almost the price of the book again! I don't think I can keep this subscription going.what shipping speed did you pick?
Oh international... yeah probably should go with time travel option then talk about pricey.
<Orders 40k books Shipping is redic>
Still waiting patiently to do my preorder before GenCon.. Just checked and pickup isnt a listed option yet.
Just to make sure you are aware, pre-order and subscription are not the same. Only subscription orders can be picked up at Gen-Con.
Still waiting patiently to do my preorder before GenCon.. Just checked and pickup isn't a listed option yet.Just to make sure you are aware, pre-order and subscription are not the same. Only subscription orders can be picked up at Gen-Con.
Welp, either way, looks like "waiting for the July releases" led me to wait too long, and ill be picking it up the hard way at Gencon.
Have we heard if they will be doing a "one copy per person" rule? I have two buddies that aren't going to Gencon that would like me to pick up a copy for them.
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Sqqqqquuuuueeeeeeeee!!!! My card was charged, soon....
*waiting intensifies*
As a non-subscriber, non-pre-orderer, have to wait until August 17th:
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I've found myself looking at my pending order in anticipation from time to time.
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I've found myself looking at my pending order in anticipation from time to time.
Seconded... All weekend!
Is it too early to begin hitting refresh....
Is it too early to begin hitting refresh....
Sadly yes... Hopefully we get ours shipping out Monday Morning!
Their hours are 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. Pacific standard time. :-)
Their hours are 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. Pacific standard time. :-)
Only 4.5 hours until they open :D
Oh boy oh boy
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