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So many negative Nellys wanna step on my underpowered, completely not thought out character concept.
Well, clearly, the thing to do is to homebrew a prestige class that advances all class abilities. Maybe it advances caster level, but not actual spellcasting (new spells per day, spells known/prepared)? And adds full BAB?
*breaks out the box of tools*
So many negative Nellys wanna step on my underpowered, completely not thought out character concept.
Optimize or GTFO! [/joke]
So many negative Nellys wanna step on my underpowered, completely not thought out character concept.Well, clearly, the thing to do is to homebrew a prestige class that advances all class abilities. Maybe it advances caster level, but not actual spellcasting (new spells per day, spells known/prepared)? And adds full BAB?
*breaks out the box of tools*
...I WILL do this MCA
August 14!? Nice!
I thought it was coming out August 30th. So this means I'll be able to buy it before I go off to college.
August 14th is the weekend of Gen Con so that is when it will be available for subscribers as well as the street date.
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Any chance there is a ranger wildshape variant? A real shapeshifter :-)
I'm hoping for a Slayer that can get favored enemy back. So many Demons in Wrath of the Righteous and I gotta use a move action to get a less good bonus!
I'm hoping for a Slayer that can get favored enemy back. So many Demons in Wrath of the Righteous and I gotta use a move action to get a less good bonus!
It becomes a swift action at level 7 bro.
I'm hoping for a Slayer that can get favored enemy back. So many Demons in Wrath of the Righteous and I gotta use a move action to get a less good bonus!
Our archer slayer has been ROCKING those demons. Even when it was a move action to use Favored Target.
Well, you don't have to hope for the archetype I want. That's why they have archetypes.
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Will there be rules on designing your own classes? I am so excited about this book.
Will there be rules on designing your own classes? I am so excited about this book.
I don't think so, and it's very unlikely given the books description.
That's too bad.
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There is a chapter on class design...it's just more theory and advice than a set of points or something like the Advanced Race Guide has.
Is there supposed to be any new racial archetypes in this book? Or will I just have to wait to find out. Also super pump!
I really want to like this book, but I've been reading the blog previews and I wonder if a lot of the classes were written with a different play style in mind than my own. Or maybe that's how the previews are written/geared toward. I didn't get that feeling from APG, UM or UC or their previews. But something in these previews makes it feel different to me and that is making it harder for me to really like or get into this book right now.
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I really want to like this book, but I've been reading the blog previews and I wonder if a lot of the classes were written with a different play style in mind than my own. Or maybe that's how the previews are written/geared toward. I didn't get that feeling from APG, UM or UC or their previews. But something in these previews makes it feel different to me and that is making it harder for me to really like or get into this book right now.
Previews only show a small portion of the book—if you're hesitant, wait until you have a chance to see the book in its entirety through your FLGS and then make a decision. :D
So any thoughts on which of the new classes the powergamers are going to gravitate towards? Which ones are going to give GMs the biggest headaches?
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To be honest, a power-gamer is going to find a way to make a crazy combination with any one of these classes, just like all the current classes. You can always find ways of breaking the game.
As far as ones that the AVERAGE gamer will scare their GM with? I don't know. Perhaps the Brawler, since switching out feats willy-nilly can definitely make for some strong combinations.
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So any thoughts on which of the new classes the powergamers are going to gravitate towards? Which ones are going to give GMs the biggest headaches?
Three of them, actually: the Arcanist, the Arcanist, and especially the Arcanist.
I really like how the Slayer gives you a martial who can go toe-to-toe with enemies, but also gets rewarded for tactics and teamwork.
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I really don't think the arcanist is going to blow people away, especially at low levels. But I know there are people on these forums who think it's going to completely render both the Wizard and Sorcerer useless. I just don't see it. Maybe at level 20 it will be hands-down better than both of those two, but at early levels it really won't, IMHO.
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So any thoughts on which of the new classes the powergamers are going to gravitate towards? Which ones are going to give GMs the biggest headaches?Three of them, actually: the Arcanist, the Arcanist, and especially the Arcanist.
Unless they changed the arcanist to use the wizard's spell progression, I find it unlikely they are going to unseat the wizard as the power-gamer's favored arcane class. This is true even with things like Quick Study.
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Is this still the case? The date says Aug 14.There will be a PDF, right?Yes, but it won't be released until the end of August for non-subscribers.
August 14th is correct—GenCon monkeys with our normal release schedule something fierce. :D
reads about possible early release
Soon, only not yet. And if you don't stop trying to convert your little brother into a zombie, I'm going to turn this hippogriff right around!
Soon, only not yet. And if you don't stop trying to convert your little brother into a zombie, I'm going to turn this hippogriff right around!reads about possible early release
I'm not turning anyone into a zombie. Bones always take forever to dry.
Almost...there...Oh boy! :D
*DARTH VADER BLOWS UP THE LEAD SHIP! RESTART ATTACK RUN!*
3 weeks.......
ooo i hope the warpriest gets a necromancer archtype hehe finnaly a necromancer who can join in the fray and put a beat down on others XD lol
Cleric.
If I preorder this, is there any way to pick it up at GenCon?
If I preorder this, is there any way to pick it up at GenCon?
Why not just buy it at GenCon, instead of preordering?
If I preorder this, is there any way to pick it up at GenCon?Why not just buy it at GenCon, instead of preordering?
Ah, went and reread the post that had me confused and worried about this. When I first read this post, made me think that unless you had the subscription or the pre-order you wouldn't be able to get one at Gen-Con (which seemed weird to me). but now that I read through it again. I see that I can just buy it there.
Waiting to see what changes I'll have to make for my PFS character (Halfling Bloodrager 1[Celestial] Warpriest 5 [Iomedae]).
Got a tad attached to him as a fun Tank -hope the changes won't nerf him too much
Well, we know that the warpriest won't have a full base attack bonus with his deity's favored weapon anymore, so you're base attack bonus probably going to drop a point, maybe two if you're 5th level or higher.
We also know that blessings got a retune and are both stronger and Wisdom-based.
That's about all we've gotten so far for your character, though.
I think out of all the classes that were mentioned, the class I've seen the least excitement for was the Hunter. I personally like my rangers without spells and with less focus on nature, so it is safe to say the concept of the Hunter never interested me either.
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I think out of all the classes that were mentioned, the class I've seen the least excitement for was the Hunter. I personally like my rangers without spells and with less focus on nature, so it is safe to say the concept of the Hunter never interested me either.
Same here, along with the Brawler - though a few of the mentioned archetypes have turned my head the other way.
I'm hoping the Hunter feels a bit more distinct in the final product.
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I think out of all the classes that were mentioned, the class I've seen the least excitement for was the Hunter. I personally like my rangers without spells and with less focus on nature, so it is safe to say the concept of the Hunter never interested me either.Same here, along with the Brawler - though a few of the mentioned archetypes have turned my head the other way.
I'm hoping the Hunter feels a bit more distinct in the final product.
I have to admit--as a playtester before working here, I wasn't feeling the hunter as much as some of the others. I will just say that the hunter got something in the final that changed the way I thought about the class and that I plan to share it when the hunter class blog post goes up. Other than tantalizing you like that, I'm afraid you'll have to wait for the preview.
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I have to admit--as a playtester before working here, I wasn't feeling the hunter as much as some of the others. I will just say that the hunter got something in the final that changed the way I thought about the class and that I plan to share it when the hunter class blog post goes up. Other than tantalizing you like that, I'm afraid you'll have to wait for the preview.
Same here, along with the Brawler - though a few of the mentioned archetypes have turned my head the other way.I'm hoping the Hunter feels a bit more distinct in the final product.
Good to hear! I'm trying to keep an open mind about the classes until I see them in full.
Good to hear! I'm trying to keep an open mind about the classes until I see them in full.I have to admit--as a playtester before working here, I wasn't feeling the hunter as much as some of the others. I will just say that the hunter got something in the final that changed the way I thought about the class and that I plan to share it when the hunter class blog post goes up. Other than tantalizing you like that, I'm afraid you'll have to wait for the preview.
Same here, along with the Brawler - though a few of the mentioned archetypes have turned my head the other way.I'm hoping the Hunter feels a bit more distinct in the final product.
me too, i keep thinking they are keeping the hunter blog for last so they a can blow our minds with the big reveal.
me too, i keep thinking they are keeping the hunter blog for last so they a can blow our minds with the big reveal.Good to hear! I'm trying to keep an open mind about the classes until I see them in full.I have to admit--as a playtester before working here, I wasn't feeling the hunter as much as some of the others. I will just say that the hunter got something in the final that changed the way I thought about the class and that I plan to share it when the hunter class blog post goes up. Other than tantalizing you like that, I'm afraid you'll have to wait for the preview.
Same here, along with the Brawler - though a few of the mentioned archetypes have turned my head the other way.I'm hoping the Hunter feels a bit more distinct in the final product.
Here I thought the shaman was going to be the last class to be previewed.
Here I thought the shaman was going to be the last class to be previewed.me too, i keep thinking they are keeping the hunter blog for last so they a can blow our minds with the big reveal.Good to hear! I'm trying to keep an open mind about the classes until I see them in full.I have to admit--as a playtester before working here, I wasn't feeling the hunter as much as some of the others. I will just say that the hunter got something in the final that changed the way I thought about the class and that I plan to share it when the hunter class blog post goes up. Other than tantalizing you like that, I'm afraid you'll have to wait for the preview.
Same here, along with the Brawler - though a few of the mentioned archetypes have turned my head the other way.I'm hoping the Hunter feels a bit more distinct in the final product.
maybe, i didnt catch the hint from the last blog.