Super excited for this one! March can't get here soon enough!
/cry it now says April....
Will there be PRCs for Ragathiel's worshippers?
Isn't there already a book on gods and such? Though this one is bigger and hardcover. I do hope it's good! I was really disappointed that Gods and Deities was basically just a repeat of the Inner Sea World guide.
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Agreed, we do need an updated version of the great beyond, hopefully it will be a hardcover book as well.
I for one am excited about this book and I love the cover!
Sorry if I missed that answer, but will there be stats blocks for the gods?
Like CR 26 to 30 avatars of the gods.
Sorry if I missed that answer, but will there be stats blocks for the gods?
Like CR 26 to 30 avatars of the gods.
doubtful. That is what they have Heralds for.
Sorry if I missed that answer, but will there be stats blocks for the gods?
Like CR 26 to 30 avatars of the gods.
No.
No.Sorry if I missed that answer, but will there be stats blocks for the gods?
Like CR 26 to 30 avatars of the gods.
A quick and to the point answer. Thanks!
A pity though.So those heralds, what are they? Mortal champions of the gods? Like the Chosen in Forgotten Realms? And so do we have heralds in this book?
Thanks.
The heralds are CR 15 unique outsiders who function as emissaries of the gods - each AP-issue with a deity-article has also had a herald in its bestiary section (except for the very first one, #2, which did not have an article about Desna's herald The Night Monarch [I'm guessing they hadn't decided if this was a thing yet] - but it was detailed in a later instalment of the Rise of the Runelords instead).
(And come to think of it, I think one or two of the heralds may be of different monster-types than Outsider. Urgathoa's herald Mother's Maw is an Undead, and I think one or two of them has a construct.)
Torag's might be listed as a Construct. I don't recall right off hand & don't have my copy available to check.
One of Pharasma's heralds is basically the ghost of Aroden.
CR 15 huh? It seems somewhat low for a God's rep.
Thanks for the replies.
One of Pharasma's heralds is basically the ghost of Aroden.
I would love to see them stat that up!
Alright so I know that it doesn't have them but I would like to once again express my desire for stat blocks for the gods, that is all (yes I know they've said we're never getting them, but I must try)
One of Pharasma's heralds is basically the ghost of Aroden.I would love to see them stat that up!
He's in the Pharasma write-up in Trial of the Beast, the second book of the Carrion Crown AP. His name is Echo of Lost Divinity.
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Alright so I know that it doesn't have them but I would like to once again express my desire for stat blocks for the gods, that is all (yes I know they've said we're never getting them, but I must try)
For every person who wants stats, there's two or three who don't, and a Paizonian who doesn't want to have to even attempt to crunch the numbers to build those statblocks.
He's in the Pharasma write-up in Trial of the Beast, the second book of the Carrion Crown AP. His name is Echo of Lost Divinity.One of Pharasma's heralds is basically the ghost of Aroden.I would love to see them stat that up!
He's not actually her herald, just a planar ally. Steward of the Skein is Pharasma's true herald.
Lissala's herald has its stats listed in a PFS scenario.
It was originally statted up in Shattered Star.
Just want to add that I would love to see an equivalent of the Celestial Obedience feat for greater gods. Adding divine power to characters who wouldn´t normally have them is a great way to make it feel unique.
Like, "Deific Obedience"?
The only problem I see with that is that if every major god as one unique, specific ritual that worshipers are supposed to undertake, it'll make the god's faith seem oversimplified and homogenized. It works for the Empyreal lords and Demon lords, because they are demigods with small cults based around them.
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The Scarred Lands setting had a number of 'invocations' for each of the major gods, so that if one followed Tanil, goddess of archery, the hunt and music, one could spend a round 'invoking' her and get a +1 bonus to a single bow shot (with one invocation) or perform music check (with another) or survival check (with a third). Some of them allowed multiple rounds of invocation to get larger bonuses.
It was a much smaller sort of thing than the obeisance (and didn't require a feat), but kind of a neat way for non-clerics to get a small benefit (that, thanks to action economy, wasn't likely to often affect combat).
Following that theme, if the 'big 20' gods had obeisances, they might have a few each, based on their 'spheres of influence.' So a worshipper of Urgathoa might have one related to disease (bonus to resist the effects of disease on oneself if able to make the appropriate obeisance), one related to undeath (bonus to saves to make a negative energy level go away, or to CL when animating undead) and one related to gluttony (ignore penalties for hunger, or the ability to devour an abnormal amount of food and have it count for multiple days, eating seven days worth of 'meals' from a slain horse and then not having to eat for a week, or something).
Basing it off of 'spheres of influence' instead of Domains would, IMO, much more 'personalize it.' So, for the example above, Urgathoa wouldn't have any obeisance related to her Strength or War or Evil domains, because, honestly, Urgathoa has *nothing* to do with those Domains, they just sort of got strapped on. (Just as seven of the 'big 20' gods are Lawful, but only one, Abadar, is an actual god *of* law.)
Similarly, Abadar would have obediences related to cities, wealth, merchants and law, and nothing at all to do with Earth, Nobility, Protection or Travel. (Instead of having some deliberately flavorless sort of 'Protection' obedience that he'd have to share with Nethys, Shelyn and Torag, who are all, thematically and aesthetically, quite different sorts of gods.)
I would love to see a feat that grants domain spells as spell powers and for anyone not just divine casters.
I would love to see ways for classes to get spells added to there spell list that fit like fire spells for a flame oracle, minor healing spells and other cleric spells like holysmite, holy aura, and deathward to a celestial bloodline sorcerer. I would like to see more positive energy spells for necromancers and maybe some actual good subtype spells for the school of necromancy.
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I would love to see ways for classes to get spells added to there spell list that fit like fire spells for a flame oracle,
The number of new spells that get added all the time with the cold, fire, etc. descriptor could open up multiple options, such as a feat that allows one to add a certain number of spells of a thematic descriptor (such as a Fire oracle or Fire domain cleric or Fire specialist wizard being able to add X number of spells or levels of spells with the fire descriptor from other class lists), or a feat that allows one to adapt a number of current spells to that descriptor (such as tweaking sonic burst to a fire spell, for a Fire Domain cleric, or burning hands and burning gaze to cold spells, for a Winter Witch).
minor healing spells and other cleric spells like holysmite, holy aura, and deathward to a celestial bloodline sorcerer. I would like to see more positive energy spells for necromancers and maybe some actual good subtype spells for the school of necromancy.
Definitely. The school of 'life and death' is a bit overly death-focused, currently, and adding a bunch of life-themed spells could help to swing it back into a more PC / PFS / 'no evil PCs' friendly option.
Well not just fire but earth, water, air, cold, electricity, plant, animal, etc. but you know what I am talking about Set.
The school of life and death is very death heavy and undeath heavy as well:(
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Product image and description updated!
April is too far away!
O.O I WANT IT NOW!
Please let there be the Echo of the Lost Divinity in there!
Wow almost 300 deities that we get domain information, favored weapons, etc. with that many other deities mention I hope we will get some from Castrovel, Akiton, and more. Also some Deities for( and that are) non-core races like catfolk, gripli, etc..
I continue to be uber excited. I'm so very much looking forward to those prestige classes!
I am excited about this book, though I still wish that it wasn't just on the Inner Sea Deities. I would have loved to get some more information on the Tian Xia deities as well. Most of them only have like a few paragraphs of write up.
I guess we'll just have to hope that there will be a hardcover on non-inner sea deities ;)
I understand that this book is called "Inner Sea Gods" and is about Golarion, but are the prestige classes applicable to other settings, or are they purely focused on the Inner Sea deities? For instance, can I make the "Champion of Sarenrae" or whatever it's going to be called a "Champion of Pelor"?
I got the impression that you can mod the prestige class for whatever diety you worship. So my guess would be yes
I understand that this book is called "Inner Sea Gods" and is about Golarion, but are the prestige classes applicable to other settings, or are they purely focused on the Inner Sea deities? For instance, can I make the "Champion of Sarenrae" or whatever it's going to be called a "Champion of Pelor"?
New prestige classes to imbue you with the power of the gods! What’s more, each of these three classes is uniquely customized to make worshipers of all 20 core gods mechanically distinct from each other—that’s 60 different prestige class variations!
It sounds completely customizable to me.
Will there be anything on paladin codes? What about for the Emperyal Lords?
New prestige classes to imbue you with the power of the gods! What’s more, each of these three classes is uniquely customized to make worshipers of all 20 core gods mechanically distinct from each other—that’s 60 different prestige class variations!It sounds completely customizable to me.
Wow, I'm not sure how I missed that part of the description! Very cool! Looking forward to it.
I hope were are still getting reprints of all 20 of the core deities' heralds.
I want this book!
While the book will focus mostly on the core 20, we will get information for nearly 300 deities in the campaign setting. So yeah I am sure will get some new ones;)