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Only 85 left :D
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I mean.... perhaps... 85?
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I mean.... perhaps... 85?
Gob gob, offers to shiney one. Shiney one no notice with so much other goodies. Gob is good gob. Gob is smart gob.
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It's funny because that's the last one :P
Honestly, if Jason lets us fly with Edi's Spoiler God card, I'd be extremely happy. If he doesn't...... SOMEONE FIND 85 ALREADY DAMNIT!
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Apparently Ryan Costello seems to have found #85, but it's not about spoiler gods so I believe it might be fake.
As an aside, massively weird question about one of the cards........ Card 30, it says "Whenever your proficiency rank for simple weapons increases, your proficiency rank for unarmed attacks increases to the same rank unless it’s already better." I thought unarmed attacks were already "simple" weapons, so they'd already keep pace unless stated otherwise (like with a Monk, who gains extra proficiency with unarmed ALONE). So I don't understand why they have to point out unarmed keep pace, unless unarmed are no longer "simple" weapons, and now their own thing...
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As an aside, massively weird question about one of the cards........ Card 30, it says "Whenever your proficiency rank for simple weapons increases, your proficiency rank for unarmed attacks increases to the same rank unless it’s already better." I thought unarmed attacks were already "simple" weapons, so they'd already keep pace unless stated otherwise (like with a Monk, who gains extra proficiency with unarmed ALONE). So I don't understand why they have to point out unarmed keep pace, unless unarmed are no longer "simple" weapons, and now their own thing...
It could be as a note for clarity. Unarmed was usually in a weird place previously, even for always being in the Simple Weapons chart. For me it’s nice to see since i’ve Always been of the mind that a fighter should be able to throw a good punch or kick if needed, but i’ve Had a DM argue with me that i can’t cause i’m ‘Not a monk, and that’s a thing only monks can do’.
As an aside, massively weird question about one of the cards........ Card 30, it says "Whenever your proficiency rank for simple weapons increases, your proficiency rank for unarmed attacks increases to the same rank unless it’s already better." I thought unarmed attacks were already "simple" weapons, so they'd already keep pace unless stated otherwise (like with a Monk, who gains extra proficiency with unarmed ALONE). So I don't understand why they have to point out unarmed keep pace, unless unarmed are no longer "simple" weapons, and now their own thing...It could be as a note for clarity. Unarmed was usually in a weird place previously, even for always being in the Simple Weapons chart. For me it’s nice to see since i’ve Always been of the mind that a fighter should be able to throw a good punch or kick if needed, but i’ve Had a DM argue with me that i can’t cause i’m ‘Not a monk, and that’s a thing only monks can do’.
I can see a fighter throwing an accurate punch, but it not having as much power behind it as a monk's would, since they've trained exact muscle groups to make punches hurt like an SoB, and monk's have to worry about hitting soft spots, whereas fighters just generically swing a blade around and if it hits, it hits. But yeah, "monks are the only ones who can punch" is dumb, since most classical knights actually did go through some semblance of HtH training in case of the unfortunate incident they got disarmed.
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Good morning all. Friendly reminder to please take discussion of cards to their individual threads so this one remains open to get that elusive #85
And may the odds be ever in our favor!
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As an aside, massively weird question about one of the cards........ Card 30, it says "Whenever your proficiency rank for simple weapons increases, your proficiency rank for unarmed attacks increases to the same rank unless it’s already better." I thought unarmed attacks were already "simple" weapons, so they'd already keep pace unless stated otherwise (like with a Monk, who gains extra proficiency with unarmed ALONE). So I don't understand why they have to point out unarmed keep pace, unless unarmed are no longer "simple" weapons, and now their own thing...
My bet is that they're no longer Simple Weapons. Could be all sorts of other explanations, though.
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^ Hmm, that probably is simplest explanation, although I can't really believe basic punching isn't Simple weapon. I think being a catch-all for variant Unarmed attacks which are Uncommon Martial / Exotic as Edge93 suggested has systemic justification. (and I agree that hopefully all those do get proper classification whatever it may be, it's too weird not having any) Incidentally, I think the "Monks can use Uncommon Unarmed weapons distinct from basic Punch" was great direction for better distinguishing "what Monks do" from "what anybody in a bar fight does".
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Folks, let's use another thread for actual discussion of the reveals.
Folks, let's use another thread for actual discussion of the reveals.
That's what they are doing. LOOK at the post quoted. "Card 30, it says". That REALLY looks like they are having a "discussion of the reveals" when they talk about the implications of the wording of a spoiler card.
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^ Not as personal attack, but IMHO it's clearer and less conflictive to just say "I think this discussion is on topic because XYZ" instead of "That's what they are doing. LOOK... REALLY..." etc. Same outcome in terms of info that will ultimately be agreed/disagreed with, less extraneous conflict framing that can detract from reception of the info. Not that people can't still take conflictive approach, but not invoking it where it doesn't need to exist seems nicer forum environment. IMHO.
Personally it seems subjective whether this thread is ideally for discussing the reveals in detail, or just discussing the process of reveals in general, I don't have preference.
Quandary: I used caps as the posts literally mentioned the card in question: #30. As such, the only reason to complain about them is to not have actually looked through the posts.
If it was about actual reveals vs reveal details, the post failed to point this out. It should have been much clearer if that was his point.
GospodinSneg: Yep, she suggested a best course, not what was allowed or forbidden. I took it to mean any extended debate is best in it's own thread but I don't count 3-4 posts an extended debate.
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Good morning everybody! 4 days left, and only 85 left :D
I know the Paizo Twitter account posted and since we've gotten down to this last one. Hopefully in the next couple days we get that one final person who throws 85 up for us.
I watched the video finally where the cards were handed out. I didn't know attendees were actually told about this thread beforehand. Hopefully somebody is just holding out to be the hero of the day.
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Wait, what? Did someone at Paizo just know there was going to be a thread? Because I didn't make the thread until after I heard about the cards, and it took me a little while because the Paizo forums were down temporarily. XDGood morning everybody! 4 days left, and only 85 left :D
I know the Paizo Twitter account posted and since we've gotten down to this last one. Hopefully in the next couple days we get that one final person who throws 85 up for us.
I watched the video finally where the cards were handed out. I didn't know attendees were actually told about this thread beforehand. Hopefully somebody is just holding out to be the hero of the day.
Jason stated "If there is a thread on the forums with all the cards, I will do the super spoiler", so he kinda demanded we make a thread if we wanted the super spoils
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I mean, it kind of is a self-fulfilling prophecy if you hand out 4x100 spoilers at PaizoCon.
I'm glad that we found all but one so far, too bad that one #85 is still missing.
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Wait, what? Did someone at Paizo just know there was going to be a thread? Because I didn't make the thread until after I heard about the cards, and it took me a little while because the Paizo forums were down temporarily. XD
Jason basically said "Collect all 100 spoilers on our forums until I'm back in the office and I'll drop another 100."
I feel like 85 is a weapon or armor stat. Something like a dagger or leather armor. Definitely from the Equipment chapter of the CRB.
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We're gonna end up with 99/100 and Jason is going to say "the book is out on August 1" right?
I hope he sticks to his guns.
Director of Game Design
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Aww... sure would be a shame to miss out on getting a whole bunch of additional spoilers because of one missing card.
<<Goes back to paging through the Pathfinder Second Edition Core Rulebook>> So much good stuff in here...
(To be 100% clear, I promised I would put up a big spoiler if all 100 were found by the time I'm back in the office on Monday, not 100 additional spoilers, and i should note it will probably take me a few days to get it pulled together if you all succeed)
And yes... I'm sticking to it. If you are even 1 short, you will have to wait for our more traditional reveals for more info.
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And yes... I'm sticking to it. If you are even 1 short, you will have to wait for our more traditional reveals for more info.
"the book is out on August 1"
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Oh I am sure that Jason just never handed out 85. Prove me wrong … (haha)
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Technically speaking, I will point out. Jason would be sticking to his guns, even if someone who was tagged as [Paizo Employee Jason Bulmahn Director of Game Design] happened to post card number 85, in this thread.
The important part sounded like it was that they all showed up in a single thread. Not where they came from specifically. So as long as #85 shows up here from someone with access to it...
You know...
Looking around expectantly.
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"to get it pulled together" - Jason Bulmahn
Hmmm, almost like a "starter" or "teaser" PDF... maybe a high resolution one with an ancestry, a class, add in a monster page... maybe Treasure Distribution Table... haha okay, I am biased... just I would really like to see that table :)
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Ah, those globally recognizable American cultural references ;-)
As an American, I do not get that reference in the slightest.
4 days to find 1 of 4 cards available to the public. It’s madness, I say
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Ah, those globally recognizable American cultural references ;-)As an American, I do not get that reference in the slightest.
4 days to find 1 of 4 cards available to the public. It’s madness, I say
Honus Wagner is an American Baseball player that has the odd distinction of being the most valuable baseball card in existence.
