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Ambrosia Slaad |
![Phomandala](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9036-Phomandala.jpg)
It was just announced that Disney-owned Freeform (formerly ABC Family) will be adapting Cloak and Dagger (possible future spoilers from the comics) into a live action, "young adult" targeted TV series.
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atheral |
![White Dragon](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO1126-WhiteDragon_500.jpeg)
Hmmm...wonder if this will be part of the greater MCU like the other TV/Netflix series are.
I assume it would be as basically any and all Marvel series that are being produced now have at least a tangential connection.
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Freehold DM |
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It was just announced that Disney-owned Freeform (formerly ABC Family) will be adapting Cloak and Dagger (possible future spoilers from the comics) into a live action, "young adult" targeted TV series.
HOLY S~+&
This is one of my all time favorite pairings.
Are these guys in the marvel tv universe or is this something else?
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Freehold DM |
![Drow Dancer](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/DrowDancer.jpg)
Hmmm...wonder if this will be part of the greater MCU like the other TV/Netflix series are.
I assume it would be as basically any and all Marvel series that are being produced now have at least a tangential connection.
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re: spoiler
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Feros |
![Div, Sepid](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PF23-15.jpg)
Hmmm...wonder if this will be part of the greater MCU like the other TV/Netflix series are.
I assume it would be as basically any and all Marvel series that are being produced now have at least a tangential connection.
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Philo Pharynx |
![Argus Wall](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO90109-Wall_500.jpeg)
I really want to know if this fits into the wider continuity of the MCU or the X-Men movies, or is just going to be stand-alone.
It's being done by disney, so it can't fit into the X-Men continuity unless there's a weird collaboration with Fox. If that were the case, I'm sure the trades would have more info on this.
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GreyWolfLord |
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Huh. I always thought they got their powers ** spoiler omitted **
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thejeff |
But all of that was later retcon and basically inconsequential outside of the particular story where it got dealt with.
Go to the classic roots of the characters: runaways, experimental drug. Ignore everything else. Don't try to work in latent mutant/inhuman abilities messed with by D'Spayre and whatever other weirdness has accrued to them over the years.
Runaways. Drugs. Street crime. That's the essence of the concept.
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Damon Griffin |
![Griffon](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/gryphon.jpg)
I agree, ABC Family / Freeform (when did this happen?) seems a bad fit...a good C+D adaptation should be just as dark as the MCU Netflix shows.
I won't say C+D are the best fit for Freeform, but I'm getting fairly burned out on "dark". IMHO, the dark-to-light spectrum for comics on TV or in development is currently:
Dark (9): Agents of SHIELD, Arrow, Gotham, Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Defenders, Walking Dead
Twilight (3): Flash, Legends of Tomorrow, Lucifer
Light (3): Supergirl, iZombie, Agent Carter
More are coming, and I imagine most (but not all) of them will lean more toward dark than light: Brooklyn Animal Control, Concrete, The Disciples, Dreadstar, Empire of the Dead, Essex County, Global Frequency, Harrow County, Hellfire, Krypton, Lazarus, Legion, Marvel's Most Wanted, Night Mary, Outcast, Powers, Preacher, Red, Sex Criminals, Tales From the Crypt, Umbrella Academy, The Wicked + The Divine, X-Men...
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Damon Griffin |
![Griffon](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/gryphon.jpg)
Well there are still talks of Marvel's Damage Control to make an appearance, that should be significantly lighter.
And Concrete should as well, but that will still leave the landscape overwhelmingly dark. I have no idea what tone Wynonna Earp takes, as I haven't seen even a preview/commercial of it. I know it started last Friday.
I'm sure there are other series in development I left out. Hopefully W. Earp is the only current one I overlooked.
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Norman Osborne |
![Khurbok](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/jack.jpg)
Norman Osborne wrote:I agree, ABC Family / Freeform (when did this happen?) seems a bad fit...a good C+D adaptation should be just as dark as the MCU Netflix shows.I won't say C+D are the best fit for Freeform, but I'm getting fairly burned out on "dark". IMHO, the dark-to-light spectrum for comics on TV or in development is currently:
Dark (9): Agents of SHIELD, Arrow, Gotham, Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Defenders, Walking Dead
Twilight (3): Flash, Legends of Tomorrow, Lucifer
Light (3): Supergirl, iZombie, Agent Carter
Again, for me it depends on the actual program. Supergirl wouldn't work dark, just like Jessica Jones wouldn't work light and fluffy.
C+D should tend more towards the dark side of the spectrum.
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First trailer for Cloak & Dagger!
And it looks actually pretty good.
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atheral |
![White Dragon](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO1126-WhiteDragon_500.jpeg)
It's been awhile since I brushed up on Cloak and Dagger, but if I remember correctly, isn't part of their setup the fact that they need to be near each other to keep their abilities (and occasionally personalities) stable?
That would mean they could play up the star crossed thing in an interesting way, at least at first. It could get very old very fast if they overdid it.
Based on the trailer, which seems to all take place early in their discovery of their powers and connection, unless they are going to drag the story out everything in it will probably occur in the first couple episodes. If they did that then transitioned to more action it could be ok.
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Vidmaster7 |
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Yeah dagger will pop if she doesn't have cloak around to drain off her excess energy and cloak will drain people if he doesn't have her around. Think of it like one has a portal to the positive energy plane in them and the other the negative energy plane and they have to stay near each other to cancel it out.
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Like it so far (3 episodes in). It's nice that it starts slowly and not directly throws you into the action. As it seems, they heavily changed the backstory for the couple, but on the other hand, Cloak and Dagger are very mysterious characters so to put their origin story into New Orleans kinda make sense (and I hope they'll expand on certain themes of episode 3 quite a bit as that's just my cup of coffee).
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Vidmaster7 |
![Seer of Saint Senex](http://cdn.paizo.com/image/avatar/PZO9098-Seer_500.jpeg)
Yeah pacing is slow but its been interesting. They are taking some liberties with there powers for sure. (the whole visions thing) The constant lighting to emphasize there whole ying yang partnership thing is pretty cool. I do hope they are going to put some action in it. I get going slow with it though don't want to kill your budget to fast.
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GreenDragon1133 |
I'd noticed the pacing as well. Its Netflix pacing. And I realized Agent Carter S1, AC S2, and Inhumans all used Netflix pacing as well. Excluding season 4, Agents of SHIELD is the only TV series in the MCU that hasn't used that pacing.
AoS being a more episodic series, as opposed to a 8-13 hour story. And AoS best season (S4) used three stories told over 6-8 hour each.
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Mark Hoover 330 |
I have to say, so far I'm not enjoying it as much as I thought I would. First off, it takes place in New Orleans but none of the characters seem to look or sound like they're from the Big Easy. I'm not saying they need to be café au lait drinking, jazz listening caricatures, but at least have an accent maybe?
Then there's their powers. I wasn't a religious C&D fan back in the day but I remember their abilities being a lot more cerebral. Cloak was a baddie in a fight b/c his darkforce had a physical heft to them, but Dagger had emotion lasers; I don't remember her ever stabbing someone like an actual knife.
Then again, there have been some cerebral moments in the series. These cut-scenes with visions of hopes and fears. So far I've enjoyed these scenes, but they have the capability of being VERY preachy, and in the process being something the creators are beating the audience over the head with.
As for wanting there to be more action I suppose that'd be fun, but I'd rather see more detective/espionage type stuff. Tandy and Ty are a couple teenagers and while both have been exposed to the darker side of street life, neither seems like a fighter type so it wouldn't make sense to have any Netflix-style hallway brawls.
Instead I look forward to sneaking, interrogations, traps, escapes, you know... real Cloak and Dagger type stuff!