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Mythic is BACK!

Can’t wait! Bloodrager archetype - finally!

BLOODRAGER LETS GOOOOOOO!!!!!

Cant wait for Bloodrager, shall see how it compares to 3rd party supplements. Also, MYTHIC.

The new take on Mythic sounds lovely.

Bloodrager fans, you can all finally exhale. The wait is nearly over.

EDIT: Hello, "Avenger" Rogue. I very nearly missed you there.

EDIT 2: If Mythic characters can become a Rider, then maybe there's hope for Aeon as an option...

Woo for mythic in system where it might work out :'D

(I'm slightly in somber mood since a god has died, but could also be me staying up this late post midnight x'D)

Well I rode through the doomsday on a Blood Unicorn
It felt good to be out in Godsrain

New Nephilim lineages, Class archetypes, whatever exactly mythic rules are gonna shape out to be. What's not to like?

"9 mythic destinies, including the fearsome apocalypse rider and the undying eternal legend."

WOOT! More options than the six PF1 mythic paths. Hopefully, there will be less stereotyping/siloing of functionality.

Undying eternal legend? I don't know what it is, but yes, I'll take one to go, please.

I'm very nervous. Because I was a strong believer that Bloodrager could be its own class. I hope the archetype does it justice. Overall I am very excited.

EDIT: Hello, "Avenger" Rogue. I very nearly missed you there.

Is this one renamed? What was the original?

Oooooo mythic destinies.....what we all thinking? An archetype? A completely separate track (like free archetype)?

keftiu wrote:

EDIT: Hello, "Avenger" Rogue. I very nearly missed you there.

Is this one renamed? What was the original?

Given that this is a big book of Divine goodies, it's safe to assume a Divine Rogue of some sort might look, say, Inquisitor-shaped.

Oh! OK cool, that was my guess since that was the only one I knew of that really needed a rename, but I wasn't sure. Can't wait to see them!

ornathopter wrote:

keftiu wrote:

EDIT: Hello, "Avenger" Rogue. I very nearly missed you there.

Is this one renamed? What was the original?

Given that this is a big book of Divine goodies, it's safe to assume a Divine Rogue of some sort might look, say, Inquisitor-shaped.

What might the avenger give up/gain in a class archetype?

keftiu wrote:

ornathopter wrote:

keftiu wrote:

EDIT: Hello, "Avenger" Rogue. I very nearly missed you there.

Is this one renamed? What was the original?

Given that this is a big book of Divine goodies, it's safe to assume a Divine Rogue of some sort might look, say, Inquisitor-shaped.

What might the avenger give up/gain in a class archetype?

I'm not much of a d20 designer, but at a gut check... maybe worsen a Save in exchange for Sanctified Sneak Attacks with bonus Spirit Damage?

My guess is the Avenger will work similar to how the eldrich scoundrel used to but having some feats of it's own and grabbing Cleric feats at 1/2 level and getting gish like proficiency for spells and attacks but likely losing some of the skill increses.

WWHsmackdown wrote:

keftiu wrote:

ornathopter wrote:

keftiu wrote:

EDIT: Hello, "Avenger" Rogue. I very nearly missed you there.

Is this one renamed? What was the original?

Given that this is a big book of Divine goodies, it's safe to assume a Divine Rogue of some sort might look, say, Inquisitor-shaped.

What might the avenger give up/gain in a class archetype?

I'm not much of a d20 designer, but at a gut check... maybe worsen a Save in exchange for Sanctified Sneak Attacks with bonus Spirit Damage?

Yo spirit damage sneak attack would be so pro.

love this cover!

*Cheering for Szuriel intensifies*

Greetings, old friends. I was pleased to be a part of this project and I think you'll all love it.

love this cover!

I mean it's great, but that horse is the wrong color.....

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

love this cover!

I mean it's great, but that horse is the wrong color.....

It's supposed to have changed color? In its previous description, it was red, soaked in blood right?

Grace of the Flame

Grace of the Flame, Szuriel's Red Horse, appears hearty and fit, unlike the three other apocalypse horses. It is soaked in blood, covered in gore, and occasionally shows horrific but cosmetic wounds on its body.

Quote for reference of what I'm talking about, for other people wondering. (I won't assume you didn't know of that, hence my question. xD I migth also have missed some published development since.)

Steven T. Helt wrote:

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

love this cover!

Ha! It's perfect of course. Just a little Four Horsemen rivalry. I prefer my mounts pitch black.

Very much looking forward to what the different mythic destinies entail. I hope Paizo took a cue from Owlcat and made them more flavorful than the 1e paths.

I will make the assumption that the concept of mythic destinies will be similar to the OwlCat game, and different mythic destinies will correspond to different planar forces that are involved in this process. Thus the apocalyptic rider is associated with Abaddon. And the undying legend is an analogue of the power of mortals, as was the Legend in the computer game. The remaining seven types of mythical leveling can also be associated with other main planes.

So there'd be a First World destiny, or an elemental planes one, or Bindyard? Sounds fun!

So there'd be a First World destiny, or an elemental planes one, or Bindyard? Sounds fun!

This is just my guess, and we have not yet been told any confirmation of this.

But I would like it to be so.

Happy to see Bloodrager.

Does that mean there will be no playtest for the mythic rules?

Perhaps the cover art implies that Szuriel will be a deity in Pathfinder Remaster?

Heh, so Mythic finally makes a grand return.

I wonder how much the Exemplar got improved since the playtest...

Heh, so Mythic finally makes a grand return.

I wonder how much the Exemplar got improved since the playtest...

There was an after-playtest blog post about their plans regarding changes to Exemplar and Animist.

So there'd be a First World destiny, or an elemental planes one, or Bindyard? Sounds fun!

There's nine of them, so my guess is one for each outer plane, or for each square on the old alignment chart.

Let's Smurfing GO!

Staring at the blade sticking out of Szuriel’s mounts head

Eyes widen when I notice how it’s made of a dark grey, pitted metal

Is… is that a piece of Gorum?!

Does that mean there will be no playtest for the mythic rules?

Perhaps the cover art implies that Szuriel will be a deity in Pathfinder Remaster?

Over several dead bodies.

(This is a Horseman rivalry joke and not actual book content. I mean...why all this Szuriel love? Famine is where it's at.)

Does that mean there will be no playtest for the mythic rules?

Perhaps the cover art implies that Szuriel will be a deity in Pathfinder Remaster?

Szuriel already had a writeup in Gods & Magic, she's already been a diety.

Also, there doesn't need to be a playtest - it's very likely that the chassis of the divine paths are going to be similar to archetypes.

Aenigma wrote:

Does that mean there will be no playtest for the mythic rules?

Perhaps the cover art implies that Szuriel will be a deity in Pathfinder Remaster?

Over several dead bodies.

(This is a Horseman rivalry joke and not actual book content. I mean...why all this Szuriel love? Famine is where it's at.)

Steven is Famine. Look at his profile ;-)

Staring at the blade sticking out of Szuriel’s mounts head

Eyes widen when I notice how it’s made of a dark grey, pitted metal

Is… is that a piece of Gorum?!

So, that is where the rest of his sword went.

Makes for a trophy both nice and useful.

I will love everything in this book.

I’m keen on learning more about the Mythic rules… What are Mythic Destinies? Archetypes or something else? Can I plop my Free Archetype character in a Mythic Campaign without rearranging feats? (or seriously overhauling my character concept…)

Szuriel, huh? makes sense if the god of battle dies, the Horseman of War is going to take a chance to become a full god

Oh my god, f+*& yes, this means more Daemon content. I hope we get a showdown with Szuriel in Abaddon!

Still saying Apocalypse Rider sounds like post apocalyptic road trip movie also that they should get cooler mounts than horses if horseman part is dropped ;p

Still saying Apocalypse Rider sounds like post apocalyptic road trip movie also that they should get cooler mounts than horses if horseman part is dropped ;p

I suppose we could all drive Mustangs. I have a buddy with a Mach E, and it is irresponsibly fast.

I've always loved the idea that the Horsemen ride a unique nightmare, or even a dragon that carries a Famine or Pestilence theme or whatnot.

I'm very nervous. Because I was a strong believer that Bloodrager could be its own class. I hope the archetype does it justice. Overall I am very excited.

Same, excited to see it come back but I would have expected to see it as an instinct rather than an archetype. Calling it a "barbarian archetype" sounds like it will only be available to barbarians which basically sounds like adding a bunch of barbarian feats with a lot of restrictions.

pixierose wrote:

I'm very nervous. Because I was a strong believer that Bloodrager could be its own class. I hope the archetype does it justice. Overall I am very excited.

Same, excited to see it come back but I would have expected to see it as an instinct rather than an archetype. Calling it a "barbarian archetype" sounds like it will only be available to barbarians which basically sounds like adding a bunch of barbarian feats with a lot of restrictions.

It will be a class archetype, which usually only applies to a singular class, or a small subset of classes (like prepared spellcasters or spontaneous spellcasters).

If I were to garner a guess, some of the Barbarian's restrictions on Concentrate trait actions while Raging will be removed for Bloodragers, so they can be able to Cast a Spell while Raging. And Bloodragers, like most class archetypes, will get a larger bucket of feats to choose from VS other Instincts.

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

love this cover!

I mean it's great, but that horse is the wrong color.....

Elfteiroh wrote:

Steven T. Helt wrote:

Terevalis Unctio of House Mysti wrote:

love this cover!

Ha! It's perfect of course. Just a little Four Horsemen rivalry. I prefer my mounts pitch black.

The horses are those specific colors because Paizo based their horsemen on the ones from Christian mythology.

I watched as the Lamb opened the first of the seven seals. Then I heard one of the four living creatures say in a voice like thunder, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a white horse! Its rider held a bow, and he was given a crown, and he rode out as a conqueror bent on conquest.

When the Lamb opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature say, “Come!” Then another horse came out, a fiery red one. Its rider was given power to take peace from the earth and to make people kill each other. To him was given a large sword.

When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, “Two pounds of wheat for a day’s wages, and six pounds of barley for a day’s wages, and do not damage the oil and the wine!”

When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.

Although I should note that the word translated here as 'pale' can also mean a shade of green or greenish-yellow.

I....yes. Yessir. I know that.

Sooo...on to a new joke, then!

Seriously, though. I enjoyed my carve-out for this book. I am definitely using material from it in my homebrew game.