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Elfteiroh wrote:
Ilkash wrote:
So Szuriel is on the cover but she doesn't get a mythic monster statblock? Damn.
It have been confirmed that PF2 will never get deities statted up, as their power level was far above even something mythic can fight.

Oh are the Horsemen full-blown deities now? I thought they were on the same level as Demon Lords where they could be beatable by a top-level mythic party a la Wrath of the Righteous.


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So Szuriel is on the cover but she doesn't get a mythic monster statblock? Damn.


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that muscular Astradaemon though


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Oh my god, f*@! yes, this means more Daemon content. I hope we get a showdown with Szuriel in Abaddon!


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Errenor wrote:
Ilkash wrote:
I use daemons heavily in my campaigns that deal with evil outsiders just because they're so much spookier and more existentially threatening than anything else the Lower Planes have to offer.
But how are they worse than demons? Those are bad enough, I suppose.

Demons embody mortal sins. They want to create a horrible future for the Material Plane; a universe ruled by demons where the strong do as they please and the weak suffer as they must. Think of Alex Delarge from A Clockwork Orange, or of a hedonistic serial killer or degenerate Emperor that only thinks about satisfying their depraved urges. Demons want mortals to keep existing so they can, as Lovecraft put it, "teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom." This kind of behavior, not coincidentally, creates more demons when these corrupted mortals eventually die.

Daemons embody death and oblivion. They are omnicidal nihilistic soul devourers, and they want to annihilate all life -- mortal and immortal -- in the entire multiverse (including, in the end, themselves). They are (or were) Neutral Evil not because they consider neutrality to be a good thing on its own, but because they will adopt lawful or chaotic attitudes as needed in order to expedite their true goal, which is the End of All Things. There is no reasoning with daemons. Demons and Devils might kill you. Daemons will kill you, and then they'll eat your soul and make you cease to exist entirely.

Also, canonically, Daemons created the first Demon by feeding an abyssal larva to a qlippoth, and then the Abyss noticed and instantly created the rest of the Demon race.


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If I became a god and got to choose my place in the Great Beyond? Well...

Areas of Concern: Travel, communication, pacifism, hospitality
Edicts: Wander far from your hometown, forge relationships with foreigners, study the ways of other cultures, learn different languages
Anathema: Engage in nationalistic chauvinism, harm a guest or a host, be intolerant of those different from you, encourage aggressive wars
Domains: Good, Friendship, Travel, Knowledge
Spells: 1st: comprehend languages, 3rd: fly, 6th: legend lore

I would make my divine realm in Nirvana, on the shore of the Sea of No Shadows.


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keftiu wrote:
Ilkash wrote:
Hunting, hunger, coalitions of gods across alignment boundaries to fight it -- if this entity isn't Rovagug, it screams "Daemon" to me. I want more Daemon content, Paizo!
As a fan who came in with 2e, I still feel like I barely know daemons and the Horsemen... but I know some 1e fans really love them. I'd welcome this being their big apocalypse push!

Oh yeah, I'm one of their big fans. I love the flavor of horror that they bring to the Pathfinder cosmology, and the concept that evil -- in its purest form -- is wanting all life outside of oneself to cease. They want to reduce the multiverse to a wrecked tomb.

I use daemons heavily in my campaigns that deal with evil outsiders just because they're so much spookier and more existentially threatening than anything else the Lower Planes have to offer. Check out Amber Stewart's Book of the Damned Vol. 3 if you want more info about them!


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Hunting, hunger, coalitions of gods across alignment boundaries to fight it -- if this entity isn't Rovagug, it screams "Daemon" to me. I want more Daemon content, Paizo!