Pathfinder Treasure Vault Special Edition

Announced for February! Product image and description are not final and may be subject to change.

Final render of this is up, it seems.

Now, I'm not at all a physical, let alone special edition, book collector, but it is interesting me to that this is the first special edition mainline rulebook that is blue rather than red (LO books are ones that tend to get the blue covers).

It looks nice, and even nicer in person, I'm sure, but it might peeve those looking for a consistent look to their bookshelf.

That's unusual indeed.

No shade to the folks who enjoy the special editions but I think this is one cover where the spine on the normal Treasure Vault just can't be beat.

Agree with above comments on color. We already went through a red color change between bestiary 1 and 2. Then a spine change with Guns and Gears or was it secrets of magic, whichever was first. Now, blue? Ugh. I will survive it, but it will be an itch I won't be able to scratch, lol.

I'd be a bit sad if this is published in Blue, unless they make it part of the Lost Omens line. I like that all the other books were colour coded to the line that they came from, even allowing for a little variation in the Special Edition APs.

Hey fans, as you know the image at this time is a mock-up, but I've asked Jon, our Community and Social Media Specialist, to have a chat with our art and editorial teams and find out what their intensions are for this new blue cover. Thanks!

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Nonat1s previews Chapter 2 Alchemy Unleashed:
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Really hoping this isn't going to print in blue. It was bad enough with the cover and spine changes previously. And since this isn't identified as a Lost Omens book, it should be Red like all the others.

Hey fans, as you know the image at this time is a mock-up, but I've asked Jon, our Community and Social Media Specialist, to have a chat with our art and editorial teams and find out what their intensions are for this new blue cover. Thanks!

We have our answer. It will be a dark blue, not Lost Omens blue, with gold foil. The Paizo has had plans to move away from a single color going forward.

Thats a little irritating.

Aaron Shanks wrote:

Hey fans, as you know the image at this time is a mock-up, but I've asked Jon, our Community and Social Media Specialist, to have a chat with our art and editorial teams and find out what their intensions are for this new blue cover. Thanks!

We have our answer. It will be a dark blue, not Lost Omens blue, with gold foil. The Paizo has had plans to move away from a single color going forward.

That's awful! I just jumped on board with PF2e, for reasons (*COUGH*ogl*COUGH*), and I just had to get all the books in SE because they are just beautiful. I was ok with the change with the spines because I saw the core, bestaries, GM and player guide as "Core books" and the other 4 books as "additional" rules, and then all the Omens books being blue, so it doesn't look so strange on my bookshelf. But now if the "additional" rulebooks are going to be different random colors, I don't know if there's any reason to even get the SE now. It makes me sad.

Knights of Last Call preview the Armor and Armament chapter of Treasure Vault.
Note: we received feedback about the tone of this preview. We know that the Knights are passionate and critical ttrpg players and we don't expect all previews to be raves.

But, I have to take ownership of this. In my haste to get keep previews going while managing the OGL situation I did not clearly communicate two things. The first is that we prefer previews to be a showcase of what the portion of the product is and to save opinions for reviews that cover the whole product.

Second, Paizo does not want previews that contain page-by-page video or screenshots. The error was mine in that I did not communicate our expected limits to the previewer. Future previews with some screen-sharing will continue, say 20%. Entire chapters of our art and lore that allow for screen capture should not happen. It will be a portion—enough to get help you get to know the product and get excited.

You will find I did not share these guidelines with Nonat1s either. My mistake.

That said, I don't want to keep this preview content away from you.

Also, we have this in-house preview blog: Varmints in the Vaults

Thank for your interest, enthusiasm, and thanks for playing Pathfinder.

Aaron Shanks wrote:

Hey fans, as you know the image at this time is a mock-up, but I've asked Jon, our Community and Social Media Specialist, to have a chat with our art and editorial teams and find out what their intensions are for this new blue cover. Thanks!

We have our answer. It will be a dark blue, not Lost Omens blue, with gold foil. The Paizo has had plans to move away from a single color going forward.

This is a pretty disappointing change. I will probably stop getting the special editions from this point forward then. I had originally wanted to get the special editions because the consistency was aesthetically pleasing. Now, buying just the standard editions will be more consistent when viewing them spine-on.

Really baffling choice.

I agree that the choice of colors is very confusing. The "core" line having the special gold spine and the optional books not having the gold spine, but all of them being red made thematic sense. Having all the special edition APs be different colors also made sense because each adventure is generally self contained.

Does this mean that there's there's a "fourth category" with the dark blue, or is Paizo just going to make the special edition line look super eclectic and random from here on?

Aaron Shanks wrote:

Hey fans, as you know the image at this time is a mock-up, but I've asked Jon, our Community and Social Media Specialist, to have a chat with our art and editorial teams and find out what their intensions are for this new blue cover. Thanks!

We have our answer. It will be a dark blue, not Lost Omens blue, with gold foil. The Paizo has had plans to move away from a single color going forward.

I will echo the other voices here as someone who purchased the SE exclusively due to the consistency the provided on the book shelf, I am extremely disappointed in the decision to move away from the single colour for each of it's product lines. It made sense with the APs as those are all basically stand alone, but here it has really cut my interest in your physical products.

Aaron Shanks wrote:

Aaron Shanks wrote:

Hey fans, as you know the image at this time is a mock-up, but I've asked Jon, our Community and Social Media Specialist, to have a chat with our art and editorial teams and find out what their intensions are for this new blue cover. Thanks!

We have our answer. It will be a dark blue, not Lost Omens blue, with gold foil. The Paizo has had plans to move away from a single color going forward.

I will echo the other voices here as someone who purchased the SE exclusively due to the consistency the provided on the book shelf, I am extremely disappointed in the decision to move away from the single colour for each of it's product lines. It made sense with the APs as those are all basically stand alone, but here it has really cut my interest in your physical products.

I will communicate your feedback. Thanks.

I have to agree with the posters above. The change in color feels wholly unnecessary, and it will make my bookshelf less attractive. It's not the end of the world, and it won't put me off buying SE, but it's a letdown.

Put me on the list of "I bought these for consistency, I'll not be buying them if they aren't".

Terriam Atram wrote:

Aaron Shanks wrote:

Aaron Shanks wrote:

Hey fans, as you know the image at this time is a mock-up, but I've asked Jon, our Community and Social Media Specialist, to have a chat with our art and editorial teams and find out what their intensions are for this new blue cover. Thanks!

We have our answer. It will be a dark blue, not Lost Omens blue, with gold foil. The Paizo has had plans to move away from a single color going forward.

I will echo the other voices here as someone who purchased the SE exclusively due to the consistency the provided on the book shelf, I am extremely disappointed in the decision to move away from the single colour for each of it's product lines. It made sense with the APs as those are all basically stand alone, but here it has really cut my interest in your physical products.

I will communicate your feedback. Thanks.

By the way Aaron, I know you aren't the one who makes these decisions, but wanted to let you know that I appreciate you communicating with the community like this.

Surely I can’t be alone in actually liking the change? I understand the idea of consistency, but personally as someone who owns only SE-books, I buy them because they stand out. No ”cluttered” (if beautiful) artwork on the cover; simply a heavy leather tome feel, glistening titles and a shiny-ish color.

In my opinion, the SE-tomes are beautiful, and the branching out from red made me happy. I’ll look forward to having red, blue, purple, green and who knows what other nuances decorating my shelves. Just my 2 cents, but while consistency is nice, it can also get boring.

Surely I can’t be alone in actually liking the change? I understand the idea of consistency, but personally as someone who owns only SE-books, I buy them because they stand out. No ”cluttered” (if beautiful) artwork on the cover; simply a heavy leather tome feel, glistening titles and a shiny-ish color.

In my opinion, the SE-tomes are beautiful, and the branching out from red made me happy. I’ll look forward to having red, blue, purple, green and who knows what other nuances decorating my shelves. Just my 2 cents, but while consistency is nice, it can also get boring.

This issue that myself, and I'd wager a lot of others, have, is that back when 2e was first coming out and the SE line was announced, one of the stated goals was to have them all consistent in style. Since SoM that's been diverging, and abandoning red entirely means that the original goal has now just become a fancier leather version.

At this point I'd actually find just the regular books more pleasing, because when looking at them spine-on they're more consistent. But I also don't feel like going back and buying a few hundred dollars worth of books after investing this much in the SE series. It's more likely I'll stop buying the physical copies entirely and just get PDFs.

The home page shows the SE as the red version and it looks so premium, love everything about it. Then I clicked on the link and nope, still dark blue with the silly font. Is that font comic sans?

It kind of bugs me that this one book is being done wholly in its own color scheme, while apparently going back to the more normal look with Elements this summer. Sure, that one could also be different but ffs, it was nice to have line delineation on my shelves…

Terriam Atram wrote:

Aaron Shanks wrote:

Aaron Shanks wrote:

Hey fans, as you know the image at this time is a mock-up, but I've asked Jon, our Community and Social Media Specialist, to have a chat with our art and editorial teams and find out what their intensions are for this new blue cover. Thanks!

We have our answer. It will be a dark blue, not Lost Omens blue, with gold foil. The Paizo has had plans to move away from a single color going forward.

I will echo the other voices here as someone who purchased the SE exclusively due to the consistency the provided on the book shelf, I am extremely disappointed in the decision to move away from the single colour for each of it's product lines. It made sense with the APs as those are all basically stand alone, but here it has really cut my interest in your physical products.

I will communicate your feedback. Thanks.

I'll also add my voice to this. I've also only bought the SE versions of books so far and all rule-focused books so far have been red, even the non-core books. I'm very much hoping there will be a second run of this book that will be in red after this community feedback, as I do not intend on getting this book in physical form otherwise for consistency and esthetic's sake.

I carry all of my rulebooks in a red/black toolbox. It looks great when I open it and there's 9 beautiful red leather books all together. Guess I'm also going PDF only on this one. It's a shame, really, because I much prefer flipping pages to rolling screens.

I'm also waiting for an answer as to why this change was chosen.

Thanks Aaron for communicating this with us.

So, what happened with the special edition of this book? It's not available anymore - did it sell out that fast or has it been pulled from production?

So, what happened with the special edition of this book? It's not available anymore - did it sell out that fast or has it been pulled from production?

Hello!

Unfortunately, this product sold out in record time.

Hope this helps!
mika

Came here to find out why it was blue when it finally arrived. I now have my answer. Can add me to the chorus of people disappointed in the change from the red. :-(

Without the consistency, I am unsure if I'll continue the SE line.

Darren Kessell wrote:

So, what happened with the special edition of this book? It's not available anymore - did it sell out that fast or has it been pulled from production?

Hello!

Unfortunately, this product sold out in record time.

Hope this helps!
mika

Yes, thank you for that. I don't suppose there will be a re-print? (I'm not holding my breath thought)

Mika Hawkins wrote:

Darren Kessell wrote:

So, what happened with the special edition of this book? It's not available anymore - did it sell out that fast or has it been pulled from production?

Hello!

Unfortunately, this product sold out in record time.

Hope this helps!
mika

Yes, thank you for that. I don't suppose there will be a re-print? (I'm not holding my breath thought)

Email I received today about my standing order states it sold out before fulfilling my subscription. In the same email they stated no more copies will be printed, but didn't state anything beyond "Given the circumstances of this Special Edition product, we will not be getting more of these items in-stock in the future". I have since located a copy at a store and have ordered it, with the money already spent at Paizo being converted to store credit.

It's a shame there won't be more. I was enjoying collecting the special editions. Suppose that streak is broken now.