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Gisher wrote:Photons have mass. Just ask any black hole ;-)Ed Reppert wrote:Maybe the moonbeams add a bulk. :-)I don't think they would add much weight. After all, moonbeams are light. ;)
I was trying to make a pun using two meanings of the word "light." I guess I failed. :)
Side note: Photons are massless. They have mass equivalence, but no rest mass.
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If I buy the .pdf, can I download updated pdfs in the future? Has the bolding issue mentioned on page 10 of this thread been resolved?
Hello! I'm not sure if the bolding issue has yet been addressed, but once you purchase a PDF, it's yours for the lifespan of your account. This means any future updates or errata that are uploaded will be available to you to redownload at any time. :)
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I redownloaded the file, saw the formatting error is still there as of today, and saw the last update to the CRB .PDF was November 2020. So it's been a year and a half since the problem's been first reported (and 6 months since I last brought it up). Hopefully it will eventually be fixed, but at this point I think it's safe to say it's not really a priority to be done unfortunately.
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The Raven Black wrote:Gisher wrote:Photons have mass. Just ask any black hole ;-)Ed Reppert wrote:Maybe the moonbeams add a bulk. :-)I don't think they would add much weight. After all, moonbeams are light. ;)I was trying to make a pun using two meanings of the word "light." I guess I failed. :)
Side note: Photons are massless. They have mass equivalence, but no rest mass.
I missed the pun, likely because I am not a native speaker.
I think I might have gotten it if you had used "Light" rather than "light" ;-)
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Gisher wrote:The Raven Black wrote:Gisher wrote:Photons have mass. Just ask any black hole ;-)Ed Reppert wrote:Maybe the moonbeams add a bulk. :-)I don't think they would add much weight. After all, moonbeams are light. ;)I was trying to make a pun using two meanings of the word "light." I guess I failed. :)
Side note: Photons are massless. They have mass equivalence, but no rest mass.
I missed the pun, likely because I am not a native speaker.
I think I might have gotten it if you had used "Light" rather than "light" ;-)
You're right. It would have been better with Light capitalized like the bulk rating.
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Varoxus wrote:So I'm not sure if this was intended or not but in the new (2nd printing) version of the PDF almost all of the text in the 1st chapter has is set to be much darker than the text elsewhere in the book. This change is present in both the "single file" and "OneFilePerChapter" versions of the PDF, was wondering if anyone else was seeing the same issue that I am.Thanks for the feedback. Shared internally.
Aaron, Can you look into whether and when Paizo intends to fix this issue? It is a make it break issue for me on my buying decisions.
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Aaron Shanks wrote:Aaron, Can you look into whether and when Paizo intends to fix this issue? It is a make it break issue for me on my buying decisions.Varoxus wrote:So I'm not sure if this was intended or not but in the new (2nd printing) version of the PDF almost all of the text in the 1st chapter has is set to be much darker than the text elsewhere in the book. This change is present in both the "single file" and "OneFilePerChapter" versions of the PDF, was wondering if anyone else was seeing the same issue that I am.Thanks for the feedback. Shared internally.
Our descriptions probably make things sound worse than they are. I've posted a couple of screenshots from my phone so you can see what we're talking about. Chapter 1 does use a darker font, but it isn't as if it's illegible. The effects gets exacerbated when the phone shrinks the images to make the "thumbnails" for each page. That's where I noticed the difference.
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Aaron Shanks wrote:Aaron, Can you look into whether and when Paizo intends to fix this issue? It is a make it break issue for me on my buying decisions.Varoxus wrote:So I'm not sure if this was intended or not but in the new (2nd printing) version of the PDF almost all of the text in the 1st chapter has is set to be much darker than the text elsewhere in the book. This change is present in both the "single file" and "OneFilePerChapter" versions of the PDF, was wondering if anyone else was seeing the same issue that I am.Thanks for the feedback. Shared internally.
Happy President's Day.
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KenpoGMBrian wrote:Our descriptions probably make things sound worse than they are. I've posted a couple of screenshots from my phone so you can see what we're talking about. Chapter 1 does use a darker font, but it isn't as if it's illegible. The effects gets exacerbated when the phone shrinks the images to make the "thumbnails" for each page. That's where I noticed the difference.Aaron Shanks wrote:Aaron, Can you look into whether and when Paizo intends to fix this issue? It is a make it break issue for me on my buying decisions.Varoxus wrote:So I'm not sure if this was intended or not but in the new (2nd printing) version of the PDF almost all of the text in the 1st chapter has is set to be much darker than the text elsewhere in the book. This change is present in both the "single file" and "OneFilePerChapter" versions of the PDF, was wondering if anyone else was seeing the same issue that I am.Thanks for the feedback. Shared internally.
Thank you for your reply and screen shot. It gave me exactly the info I needed to decide. As you said, it sounded worse than it was.
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I've seen evidence that there is a third printing from 2021 available now (it says so on page 638). Since Paizo has not published any new errata, and the PDF download still has the second printing, am I correct in assuming that nothing has changed in the third printing?
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I've seen evidence that there is a third printing from 2021 available now (it says so on page 638). Since Paizo has not published any new errata, and the PDF download still has the second printing, am I correct in assuming that nothing has changed in the third printing?
Yes, I believe that’s so. I am not aware of additional errata coming at this time.
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Is there any way to ensure that if I order the core rulebook, I will get the 3rd printing, or at least the 2nd? I have the 1st printing, and I want one that has been updated with the errata. Been burned twice on Amazon with 1st printings, so I am hopeful if I buy it from Paizo, I'll get the most current printing of the rules.
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Is there any way to ensure that if I order the core rulebook, I will get the 3rd printing, or at least the 2nd? I have the 1st printing, and I want one that has been updated with the errata. Been burned twice on Amazon with 1st printings, so I am hopeful if I buy it from Paizo, I'll get the most current printing of the rules.
I'm pretty sure Paizo only order a new print run when they are out of copies for the previous run. So you should be ok. ;)
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MajorSarigar wrote:Is there any way to ensure that if I order the core rulebook, I will get the 3rd printing, or at least the 2nd? I have the 1st printing, and I want one that has been updated with the errata. Been burned twice on Amazon with 1st printings, so I am hopeful if I buy it from Paizo, I'll get the most current printing of the rules.I'm pretty sure Paizo only order a new print run when they are out of copies for the previous run. So you should be ok. ;)
We are selling and shipping the 3rd printing of the Pathfinder Core Rulebook
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I redownloaded the file, saw the formatting error is still there as of today, and saw the last update to the CRB .PDF was November 2020. So it's been a year and a half since the problem's been first reported (and 6 months since I last brought it up). Hopefully it will eventually be fixed, but at this point I think it's safe to say it's not really a priority to be done unfortunately.
I see the Chapter 1 font issue persisted into the 3rd Printing. It's now been nearly 2 years since the first report. Just bringing it up as a reminder once again. One of these days, hopefully it'll get looked at.
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• (errata) a list of corrected errors appended to a book or published in a subsequent issue of a journal.
• erratum: an error in printing or writing.
Above from my dictionary
"A changelog is a log or record of all notable changes made to a project." -- wikipedia
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Xenocrat wrote:Let's pretend south park doesn't exist. Explain literally anything you've said in your own words.Matthew Jaluvka wrote:I know you don't.Xenocrat wrote:I don't think any of the words in your post mean anything.Quote:The slaves, at least, are clear.‘When I use a word,’ Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, ‘it means just what I choose it to mean–neither more nor less.’
‘The question is,’ said Alice, ‘whether you can make words mean different things–that’s all.’
‘The question is,’ said Humpty Dumpty, ‘which is to be master–that’s all’
I think they're saying that people shouldn't be so dependent on Rules as Written and to use the rules how they work best for you.
I might be mistaken, and I had to really think about it, but that's the conclusion I came to.
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I guess the Core Rulebook pocket edition will still be identical the the 2nd printing for a while, until a reprint is needed. Will you please announce when that time comes and the pocket edition catches up?
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I guess the Core Rulebook pocket edition will still be identical the the 2nd printing for a while, until a reprint is needed. Will you please announce when that time comes and the pocket edition catches up?
I'll try. That might be a couple years, but the faster I sell them, the sooner we get a reprint. :)
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If I buy the .pdf, can I download updated pdfs in the future? Has the bolding issue mentioned on page 10 of this thread been resolved?
I just purchased the PDF and the first 30 pages have a bold and blurry font. The rest of the book looks fantastic. I too hope they are going to fix this - but considering the age of your post (5 months) that might be wishful thinking.
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KenpoGMBrian wrote:If I buy the .pdf, can I download updated pdfs in the future? Has the bolding issue mentioned on page 10 of this thread been resolved?I just purchased the PDF and the first 30 pages have a bold and blurry font. The rest of the book looks fantastic. I too hope they are going to fix this - but considering the age of your post (5 months) that might be wishful thinking.
Have you tried a different PDF reader from whatever you're using?
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KenpoGMBrian wrote:If I buy the .pdf, can I download updated pdfs in the future? Has the bolding issue mentioned on page 10 of this thread been resolved?I just purchased the PDF and the first 30 pages have a bold and blurry font. The rest of the book looks fantastic. I too hope they are going to fix this - but considering the age of your post (5 months) that might be wishful thinking.
It hasn't just been 5 months. This has been an issue since the first printing 2 years ago. So 'wishful thinking' indeed.
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I just downloaded it, I don't see the blurry or boldness in Acrobat.
I do see it in Preview on the preview panes, but then it goes away.
The boldness/additional stroke around the Chapter 1 text is less noticeable in the full view, but I can tell the difference once I start bouncing back and forth between Chapter 1 and Chapter 2. It is MUCH worse in the preview panes.
It's just such a weird thing to change???
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I just downloaded it, I don't see the blurry or boldness in Acrobat.
I do see it in Preview on the preview panes, but then it goes away.
For me it gets worse the smaller the image.
The difference isn't that significant when reading on my computer screen, but this is what it's like on my iPhone.
It isn't as if the first chapter is illegible, but it's odd that it uses a different, heavier font than the rest of the book.
And thumbnails look really weird.