Pathfinder Roleplaying Game: Planar Adventures

Ooohh Void Touched. ;)

Any word that is partially comprised of the word 'touched' sounds a little crazy to me.

Planar infused?!;)

Todd Stewart wrote:

James Jacobs wrote:

Understood; which is why I said "We don't use it" and not "You shouldn't use it."

Unless you're writing for us.

:-P

And I just feverishly opened up the last manuscript I submitted to Paizo and did a search for "planetouched".

*SHAME*

I used it twice. Mea culpa.

You're basically the multiverse's greatest monster.

Not that this really had anything to do with that, of course. ^_^

Maybe... maybe Todd is the CR 30?

But back to actual stuff about the book... I'm aware this is primarily a setting supplement, but is there going to be any attention paid to established races (both core and core-adjacent) that originate on other planes and migrated to the Material, like gnomes and wayangs? I don't just mean mechanically, but also setting-wise.

Well Todd has been mentioned before, is not an outsider, or from the evil planes. It makes sense, mystery solved:)

James Jacobs wrote:

Understood; which is why I said "We don't use it" and not "You shouldn't use it."

Unless you're writing for us.

:-P

And I just feverishly opened up the last manuscript I submitted to Paizo and did a search for "planetouched".

*SHAME*

I used it once. Mea culpa.

Hee hee! No worries. I fixed it during development, so no one will ever know! :P

Is "planetouched" not used b/c it's WOTC IP? Or was there just a conscious effort from the early days of Paizo to find an alternate term (I guess I'm reading here now it's "geniekin")?

A little bit of both. While I admire D&D and it remains one of my favorite games, I also want to go in new directions with Pathfinder where and when I can.

I'm also kind of hesitant to come up with a single word to categorize them all under, because that implies that they're all similar in ways that they shouldn't be. It homogenizes them too much, if that makes sense?

But back to actual stuff about the book... I'm aware this is primarily a setting supplement, but is there going to be any attention paid to established races (both core and core-adjacent) that originate on other planes and migrated to the Material, like gnomes and wayangs? I don't just mean mechanically, but also setting-wise.

Not much at all. That content has already been so well covered for most of the planar races between Advanced Race Guide and Inner Sea Races that I chose not to spend much time at all talking about them. There's about a half page at the start of chapter 1 that gives a list of all the native outsider zero HD races, says where they're from, and gives page references for more info. The three new zero HD races each get a 2 page bestiary entry.

That's about it for race content in the book.

Sounds interesting to see what places many races originated.

Leviathan?

I thought the Thallasic Behemoth was Leviathan?

I thought the Thallasic Behemoth was Leviathan?

Nope. The thallasic behemoth is in fact a thalasic behemoth. It is NOT Leviathan.

Well Todd has been mentioned before, is not an outsider, or from the evil planes. It makes sense, mystery solved:)

But he's not from mythology. He may be mythological, but he's not mythical.

That depends if Todd is his real name;)

That depends if Todd is his real name;)

I swear if somebody invokes my True Name in this thread...

;)

...Trawets D'Dot?

...Trawets D'Dot?

*SCREAMING!*

...

... no that's not it. Nice try.

Dragon78 wrote:

That depends if Todd is his real name;)

I swear if somebody invokes my True Name in this thread...

;)

... nah. The Portal Jammers taught us the hard way not to irritate the King of Crosstrade too much. That's their job!

Not much at all. That content has already been so well covered for most of the planar races between Advanced Race Guide and Inner Sea Races that I chose not to spend much time at all talking about them. There's about a half page at the start of chapter 1 that gives a list of all the native outsider zero HD races, says where they're from, and gives page references for more info. The three new zero HD races each get a 2 page bestiary entry.

That's about it for race content in the book.

I figured, but thought I'd ask. Thanks.

Even if that was Todd's true name, he wouldn't admit it;)

I am glad that the new 0HD races get two pages in the bestiary section. I wish all 0HD races got 2 pages in hardcover bestiaries.

Dragon78 wrote:

Will the demi-planes(Crypt of the Dying Sun, Freehold of the Rogue Angel, The Lost, etc.) mentioned in the Great beyond book be in here?

Some, but not all. The focus of this book is NOT on demiplanes, but it certainly sets up a discussion about demiplanes. The bulk of the demiplane section (10 of its 12 pages) focuses on 10 specific demiplanes—one per page. But there's a lot more than 10 demiplanes out there, especially since some of the ones we talk about in those 10 pages are ones we hadn't envisioned at the time the softcover Great Beyond book was published eight years ago.

Sounds like Demiplanes of Golarion would make a good Campaign Setting line companion to this book...

"including three zero HD races associated with the planes of Axis, the Boneyard, and the Maelstrom."

Huh... did I miss something? Because last time I checked, Axis was Utopia, Boneyard was Purgatory and Maelstrom was Limbo.

Well, the Ganzi have been created as the Limbo/Maelstorm planetouched race, but they were never reprinted in a core rulebook.

In Axis, or Utopia, there could be a mechanical-like planetouched, similar to the Inevitables.

In the Boneyard, or Purgatory, I feel like it will be a psychopomp planetouched.

They've gone with the official names for the planes since Occult Adventures.

So no need for the two different names anymore. :-)

If there is indeed a zero HD race associated with the Boneyard....that sounds right up my ally....

Is this confirmed ?

You may wish to peruse the book's description at the top of this page. ^_^

You may wish to peruse the book's description at the top of this page. ^_^

Well I'll be damned....how did I miss that :P

hold on a sec time dimension and spells looks like some one decide to make encyclopedia arcane chronomancy available in pathfinder so whats next nympology or gemolgy or flesh crafting maybe sovering magic would be next guess right up here folks.

Nighttree,

You probably forgot your cocoa and cookies too.

The dimension of time has been in Pathfinder since the Great Beyond book.

Nympology the plane of lust...yes please:)

"including three zero HD races associated with the planes of Axis, the Boneyard, and the Maelstrom."

Huh... did I miss something? Because last time I checked, Axis was Utopia, Boneyard was Purgatory and Maelstrom was Limbo.

Well, the Ganzi have been created as the Limbo/Maelstorm planetouched race, but they were never reprinted in a core rulebook.

In Axis, or Utopia, there could be a mechanical-like planetouched, similar to the Inevitables.

In the Boneyard, or Purgatory, I feel like it will be a psychopomp planetouched.

Going forward we're using our names for the planes of the Great Beyond, not the "world neutral" names.

Yeah I do prefer the campaign setting names over the "world neutral" ones. Though I do wish that Limbo was the name of some plane or dimension in Pathfinder.

Well, the Ganzi have been created as the Limbo/Maelstorm planetouched race, but they were never reprinted in a core rulebook.

I wonder if the Ganzi are the race from the Maelstrom, or if we are getting something different ?

I had thought it was already confirmed.

Last I heard the Ganzi would be the Maelstrom based race and the other two would be completely new.

I wonder if those planar infused feats have gotten an official name yet?

I wonder if those planar infused feats have gotten an official name yet?

Given what has been revealed about the book's journey through development... I'd certainly think so.

When that name will be revealed, of course, is another matter entirely. ^_^

Darn, those Arcanatons sounded interesting.

They absolutely do!

I kind of wish they would leave the mock-up art as the final cover.

I kind of wish they would leave the mock-up art as the final cover.

What, no "I hope the cover will be updated soon" posts? Who are you and what have you done to D78?

I kind of wish they would leave the mock-up art as the final cover.

There's a keketar on the cover of 'The Great Beyond' and a keketar beating the snot out of an Inevitable on the mock-up cover here, so I appreciate that little bit of continuity. Not a clue what the final cover will have, but I'm sure it'll be awesome.

[whisper]PS Please please please have a keketar on the final cover artwork?[/whisper]

I have to say that the keketar is the coolest looking protean...so far;)

I'm on board for having a Keketar on the cover, especially fighting an Inevitable and maybe a Balor. ;)

JiCi wrote:

"including three zero HD races associated with the planes of Axis, the Boneyard, and the Maelstrom."

Huh... did I miss something? Because last time I checked, Axis was Utopia, Boneyard was Purgatory and Maelstrom was Limbo.

Well, the Ganzi have been created as the Limbo/Maelstorm planetouched race, but they were never reprinted in a core rulebook.

In Axis, or Utopia, there could be a mechanical-like planetouched, similar to the Inevitables.

In the Boneyard, or Purgatory, I feel like it will be a psychopomp planetouched.

Going forward we're using our names for the planes of the Great Beyond, not the "world neutral" names.

Good enough for me. As I said, I was just wondering about the name changes. I actually did miss something XD

It is fun to guess what the final cover art will be...and usually be wrong:)

A four way fight between a angel, inevitable, protean, and pitfiend would also be cool for the final cover.

Proteans, angels, inevitables, and demons on the cover sounds good, but...

Balors are overplayed. Maybe a vrolikai as the demon on the cover? Vrolikai are distinctively Pathfinder, even though they're a variation on the lifecycle of the nabasu. Vrolikai just look awesome too.

At CR 19, they're pretty close to the balor's CR 20. Of course, comparing the two on the sheet, balors look way scarier. Sure, vrolikai can deal up to 7 negative levels with melee attacks (1 per dagger attack), plus have a negative level gaze attack, cast enervation at-will, and have a confusion melee attack, but balors have vorpal weapons.

But still, vrolikai are just cool. I'd love to see them make the cover.

Covers aren't for Pathfinder fans. They're for retailers, distributors and random people at B&N ... who tend to pick stuff based on cover images which depict things they Know and Like (horned bat-winged demons, Cthulhu, Death Knights, dragons) over strange stuff that seems so setting-specific that it's best to steer clear and order half of what you'd take of a proper D&D book that has a beholder on the cover. Jeez, what's with those Paizo people, why don't they just slap a Mind Flayer there, that would sell.

So, overplayed stuff tends to make it on the cover more often that that funky monster which you know it can deal up to 7 negative levels with dagger attacks, but for Joe Doe, it's just something less recognisable than a Grim Reaper or a Grey Alien.

A four way fight between a angel, inevitable, protean, and pitfiend would also be cool for the final cover.

Okay, is the battle is a four-hand poker game.

Four-hand poker, connect four, a four player chess game, clue, shoots and ladders, etc.;)