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maybe we could check the poster and see if there is a pattern in the arrangement of the gods who are safe and which are not? because it might be pattern seeking brain here, but i see either a key shape in the negative space, or a mountain shape in the pattern of the safe. which... gorum's holy symbol is a mountain with a sword stuck in it, and abadar's is a key... dont not know what to make of it.

I am getting the same error. so this seems to be kind of a universal issue.

to me, this story shows the human burden of expectations, both positive and negative, along with the nature of what is truely a test of faith. the ending is one that leads us into speculation. we don't get an answer to the question of did she make it across, because that answer is not relevant in this case. its us watching as this woman goes out and is faced with the ravine, time after time, met with jeering and ridicule but also intense devotion from some of the crowds. that pressure can be smothering and intensifies everything, and of course the prospective goddess keeps making excuses for not taking that step over the chasm. we watch as her most devoted followers start leaving her till only her and an absolute zealot are left, stained, tired, and with all semblance of glorious deific visual gone. we do see her take that first step, but is it out of finally breaking through the fear holding her back, or is it just because she no longer cares if she lives or dies. its good writing, and its ending is haunting because it leaves us to want to know what comes next, or at least to guess or speculate.

To be honest, i would love a new harvest goddess to add to the pantheon of the ascended, but also i am looking forward to possible future ascended goddess of bakery as well. new gods can be fun, but Dyrani here feels like one to show a human cost to attempting to become a goddess. we assume it would be this grand thing, but it looks like most of the time its people gearing up to watch some poor unfortunate die for people ammusement.

ZombieKira wrote:

Speaking of weird god art, why does uragotha have a space helmet and shoulder pads on but no other parts of the suit?

Urgathoa has always been depicted as "alive" from the neck up deteriorating to "skeletal corpse" as you move down her body. So, metaphorically, her head is "alive" and needs environmental protections. The rest of her is "dead" and doesn't.

while that is true, still i think there might have been a more interesting way to show urgathoa in the future without depicting her with her upper body as 'living' and her lower half as undead. granted it is her iconic look, but i think some variety in her depiction could work well. like if urgathoa was at a party, i doubt she would look like a half corpse goddess, but maybe disguise seeming undead nature with some kind of holographic tech. then you would have the image of this seemingly beautiful and elegant woman where as you get lower down, as she exposes her leg, you could have the tech glitching exposing her undead nature and allowing you to have the same character and not needing to stick so rigidly to the look she has possessed since first edition pathfinder. i get it in fantasy where likely such magics are more than likely to fail at hiding her true form, but looking at whats said about her, she seeks to enjoy existence and excess in all its forms, but her deteriorated lower form denys her the opportunity for many of those save eating. might just be my interpretation but i wonder if her desire to have naderi on side is to one day steal her body to have the full scope of her sensuality restored. or she could just not care about hiding her undead nature.

The-Magic-Sword wrote:

It just hit me that we're totally going to be able to have a Skeleton Summoner with an Undead Eidolon, and (through Dhampir, if not through something else in this book) an undead animal companion. We should be able to play a small squad of undead that way at a minimum.

Dhampir gnome playing as an undead summoner with undead master archetype, animal accomplice ancestry feat, and animate dead spells will be legit minionmancy. It wont be the most action efficient or most damaging build but it will look like a character with a gaggle of undead. I'm super stoked to make my necromancer.

Minionmancy is one of the better mancies. dominate the action economy with your boys. until the gm says not at my table of course, but who can fault you for trying.

I also hope there will be some good stuff in this. Even if I am not subscribed anymore, I think there is the potential for some good stuff. We need more love for the undead side of pathfinder and 2ed has made some things more accessible for players. Me. I am hoping we get some love for urgathoa and her whole deal. She kind of has been neglected with some aspects of her followers. Let players or clear paths for npcs to get the chance to become daughters of urgathoa by going down a path of undeath devotion and undeath trancendance of mortality. Also some variance in the methods of undead making and using could be fun.

Only hope one day we get back swallow whole in the potential players kit, though I doubt it will come in here at least for a while.

the variant of the krampus that carries a sack of golden broaches, which if one goes into your possession by theft, being willingly taken, or just being in you possession for a minute, you cannot remove it. the only thing it does is give you a cognisant awareness that krampus is watching you and is aware of what your doing, giving you a code of conduct which includes no stealing. every time you steal, it ticks down, lessening the reward and increasing the potential penalty. if you make it to winter with a spotless record in krampuses eyes, you get some gold or atonement for free. if it ever ticks down to 0 though, that little pin attached to you becomes a very dissappointed and angry krampus aware of your misdeeds. the test of the golden rods as its called is a great way to make krampus more than just some monster that puts people in a sack and beats them with chains, but a moral arbiter, a darker method of enforcing good morals.

i love the atonement thing though. you lose your powers because of some decision you made, only for krampus to be like "nah. your a good kid. keep it up."

okay. thanks for the clarification. i appreciate that.

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The sprite ancestry is risky. Because 1ed pathfinder was against player races that were too small because they could be super finicky and break the game. I want to see if they can pull it off for 2ed, but I half imagine it could fail.

Awesome twist at the end.

finally got me pdf. apparently i needed to turn it to private mode. apparently because of some pending order stuck in limbo and now messing up the system. still, hope to see what this book has in store. :D

...the store isn't working for me for some reason.
i cannot purchase it. it keeps giving me an error.

cannot get a pdf right now. there is an error stopping me. hopefully it gets fixed soon

Interesting how Alanizt(apologies if I am butchering the spelling) is on the cover. I know the 1ed had karazoug on the cover, but he was one of the first big bad evils from rise of the runelords. The runelords in this case is one who was thwarted in 1ed return of the runelords. I know it’s probably not the best to take all the art for the covers in absolutes, but if alanizt did return, I imagine she would be needing a lot of help to return to prominence, power(or life). Not that would not be impossible. I think the right forces and the right bit of scheming, and a sufficiently powerful artifact could definitely restore her. Though personally I think Ileosa has a better shot of coming back. And her coming back would likely be quite the spectacle.

still waiting for this to ship. i might end up getting the pdf before it ships anyway because the anticipation is driving me mad.

Let’s hope it comes soon.

I hope we will eventually get a windsong testament for Urgothoa, or some of the other evil gods. Would be interesting to see what kinda of stories would come forth.

Waiting on the book shipping.

also Question...are there any notable tales or stories centered around the Core gods included within? i hope there is at least one covering urgothoa...because there are a lot of questions i have to a degree about her. for example... what happens to those who arrive in her domain? Does anything she eats just fall through her? can she take on other forms? i cannot imagine she doesn't take on a form that is less skeletal lower torso from time to time?

well if your an evil or other outsider race, you can combine it with consume essence to have the person inside you eventually be absorbed entirely, leaving nothing but their gear to indicate they ever existed.

I am intrigued by Nakorshor’mond. What might it have been? As a spawn of lahamastu, I assume it is some monsterous entity, like a mutant hydra or multiheaded horror.

Will 2nd edition material be able to be converted to first, and vice versa. I know the new edition is coming up in a while, but still want to see if its possible to run through something like age of ashes with some kineticists or shifters. if not, i can understand the reasoning, but if it is possible, i will be quite pleased.

Well there is an option in the previous book to ensure PC survival If you want to take it.

I have my book and those traits are very nice.

They are called exemplar traits and you can only hove one of them, but having an exemplar trait allows you to have multiple traits of the same type as the exemplar. The catagories for the exemplar traits are combat, region, magic, faith, and social.

the boosts come for every other 2 you have in the same type. also having an exemplar trait lets you pick the feat for additional traits more than once. however the power of an exemplar trait is not to be taken lightly. since it counts as 2 normal traits when you first pick it. so make sure you can handle it.

Feros wrote:

Thomas Seitz wrote:

Any chance we can get a bestiary listing JUST because I like more stuff.

Also can said bestiary listing have CR, type, and alignment?

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What is the Pallid Angel like anyways?

Looks like an angel, but draws on the power of slaughter to help empower itself, and can heal from positive or negative energy. They are pretty nasty and are quite resiliant to good spells. They are hedonistic and bloodthirsty, and look very similar to normal angels without checking the alignment first. As for who they were made by...

Hopefully 2nd edition will have some elements for either converting the systems back from 2ed to 1st ed. It's been a big thing I have enjoyed doing and it will be hard to transition. But that's it's own thing. As for this, I just hope that one day we get to figure out what happened to Gebs rival Nex. Because a possible return of another ancient wizard shoes personal war for power created the manner wastes is too cool to just have left as a mystery Forever. Geb needs closure for pity's sake. Also I wonder how ustalav will change with the whispering tyrant truely gone. Likely not as much. The massive evil is gone, but I am sure we will get another terrible evil to replace him. And likely it will return to business as usual.

Love some of the witch hexes they add. Most of them are very classic Greek myth witch, with some cool powers. On of the basic hexes let's you partially 'pig' a creature, which can be useful in some cases, especially if it lands and forces a weapon used to be stuck for a while with little stubby hooves.

Also love they actually made another kineticist wild talent that was omni-element for first times. One that let's you show off a little.

Great book. Hope we see more of quality like it before the end of 1e for now.

Thanks. I was having the same issue. Paizo copy in my case.

I hope there are at least a few options for Shifter and Kineticist. Void would be nice to get a few more wild talent options for, with some early game options to fill out those first few. Loved some of the options that were in the previous 2 player handbooks, Hope that the Quality will Stay high for this one.

that Paladin archetype has the potential to be broken in some campaigns. the fact it make moldable pits filled with freshwater for several minutes it insane. because if something does not have swim, or waterbreathing, it will likely drown. the later utility is also good. not bad for something that gives up divine bond.

yep. and less sultry looking

Ha. The living landslide is...

Terrifying. And hilarious all at once. Not something people should take lightly.

Well they got animal aspect options, some archetypes and some new feats. No new rule changes from what I have seen. Still the shifter is not the only class. There are some neat additions to gathlain,ghorian, and vine leshy. Some potentially ridiculous options and some formidable ones as well. One of the metamagics added can make damaging spells also able to debuff targets. There is a fissure spell for druids that can make a 40ft deep rift, and an Oracle curse that curses the area around you for 300ft, like curse terrain lesser. It's a mix of good and bad. It is just a shame shifter didn't get much in the way of improvements. Still, there are a few more books before 2nd edition rolls in. I am looking forward to their offerings.

Well base Shifter continues to get the short end of the stick. one of the best things they get actually buffs Druids more than then, and the archetypes range from barely passable to interesting in concept but so flawed in execution it would be suicidal to play them. I am upset because shifter is one of my favorite classes in concept yet it feels the designers often focus their energy elsewhere and leave the class sitting with a few passable archetypes and sit bottom wrung of all the classes. which is the worst crime in their case. wasted potential.

there are other things in the book i like, but when you start poorly, it doesn't exactly help but mentioning it first. =c

That is the hope.

When we get the books, details will start to manifest.
until then, we wait.

I am also pending. I hope it ships soon as well.

TAR-BAPHON MUST DIE!

my guess is that things will certainly not be the same after that. I Imagine that there will be a somewhat bittersweet element to the ending since it seems the shards needed to help use the radient fire are imbeded in your souls, rendering you unstuck from death to a degree. using them will likely result in your characters becoming mortal again. that being said, i look forward to ridding the world of the Whispering tyrant. Once and for all hopefully. But evil never truely sleeps forever, and i am sure some other undead lichlord will try to follow in his boney footsteps. hopefully not to the same degree of success.

Kind of partial to learning about grand mother spider. Is she like anansi and a trickster God, or more of a monsterous deity instead. I am hoping it's like anansi since there are quite a few monsterous spiders in pathfinder already. Having a more neutral deity focused on cunning and weaving the web of fate would be interesting to see.

Either way we lose. At this point the idea I think is the apocalypse is happening, and only pulling a quantum inversal can fix this.
(I know that is probably the wrong word, still kicking a runelord who screwed time over something royal is going to have consequences).

well they did add a feat that works with it that lets you keep it a little bit longer than the end of your turn.
i am sure someone can take the concept of that and run with it.

Cool. Hope to get my hands on this+ the martial artist book soon.

Oh my. Is the medium a channeler of past martial arts masters?

I'm just looking forward to seeing if they have some options for shifters that are less focused on animal forms and more on unique chi stuff or animal spirit powers. More like a shamanistic ninja or beast monk.

Closing in. so soon. i almost can taste the content.

Dragon78 wrote:

Maybe with this book we can finally have everyone kung fu fighting;)

But will our kicks be fast as lightning? :)

It may be a little bit frightening... :D

What is more chaotic to a ganzi than becoming a lawful good paladin, that still has chaos powers.

What do some of the Kineticist Wild talents look like?

Black powder vaulters. sounds like we are getting the rocket jumpers option for battle/mobility.

Us subscribers will get it a bit earlier, so hopefully we can start giving out some tasty details when we have them.

yeah. plus i love the gunslingers expression. you would almost think she had never seen named bullet or firearm enhancing spells before.