Since it dosen't specify a level, does the gravewalker get Bonethrall at first level, or at fourth (the level of the ability replaced)? If it is 4th level, what is the point of the Aura of Desecration for the first three levels?
It's at 1st level.
I think that abilities don't necessarily need to be at the same level as those they replace.
Since there's no level given, I'd say level 1.
Damnit, ninja'd by SKR by 14 seconds.
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Since it dosen't specify a level, does the gravewalker get Bonethrall at first level, or at fourth (the level of the ability replaced)? If it is 4th level, what is the point of the Aura of Desecration for the first three levels?It's at 1st level.
Bless you, sir. Is this true as a rule? That is, a class feature is always at first level if not otherwise specified, regardless of any replaced feature?
Oh, and speaking of Bonethrall, what is the DC for the save? Is it 10+Witch level+Cha (like a cleric)? Or 10+Level+Int (the Witch's primary casting stat)?
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I can see it both ways. On the one hand, it seems odd to "replace" a class feature you don't even have, yet. On the other hand, it does give designers more flexibility to balance archetypes. In the case of the gravewalker, for example, you wouldn't want to replace ALL hexes for the ability, but getting bonethrall (and Aura of Desecration) for the price of one hex seems like too good a deal.
Bless you, sir. Is this true as a rule? That is, a class feature is always at first level if not otherwise specified, regardless of any replaced feature?
There is no rule, and I don't want to suggest there is because I can't be 75% sure that everyone writes those with the same understanding of a precedent for it. An ability should say what level you get it at, and if it doesn't, it needs to be clarified. (For regular classes you can check the table, but for the sake of redundancy and avoiding "we moved this one level in the table and didn't check the text" errors, even for writeups with tables, the description of the ability should mention the level you get it.)
Oh, and speaking of Bonethrall, what is the DC for the save? Is it 10+Witch level+Cha (like a cleric)? Or 10+Level+Int (the Witch's primary casting stat)?
It should use her hex DC.
I can see it both ways. On the one hand, it seems odd to "replace" a class feature you don't even have, yet. On the other hand, it does give designers more flexibility to balance archetypes. In the case of the gravewalker, for example, you wouldn't want to replace ALL hexes for the ability, but getting bonethrall (and Aura of Desecration) for the price of one hex seems like too good a deal.
Bonethrall only lets you control 1 HD per level. So yes, you can have a 1HD human skeleton buddy at witch level 1 that obeys you, and (because of the aura), that buddy is slightly resistant to channeled energy, but it's no big deal. The druid's AC and the summoner's eidolon start with 2HD at 1st level, after all.
So I see the Qinggong monk archtype has gotten no errata yet. Maybe I missed it in this thread and it simply hasn't been added to the FAQ and Updates page?
Spear of Purity
In case this has not been mentioned before.
Spear of Purity has a listed effect of "spear-shaped projectile of chaotic energy" - it should read "good energy".
In addition this spell is not included in the paladin spell list - an error of ommission?
... getting bonethrall (and Aura of Desecration) for the price of one hex seems like too good a deal.
Aura of desecration is actually a two-edged sword. If can be as mutch a curse as it can be a blessing.
I noticed that the new PDF is significantly smaller than the original. There was almost a 10 MB difference if I remember correctly. Hopefully that's a trend.
Robot Chris has consumed the extra bytes and added it to the collective.
And as Gorbacz pointed out above, we're now in our second printing of Ultimate Magic. If you've received the PDF from us, you can download the updated PDF from My Downloads. The Pathfinder Reference Document has been updated to reflect the changes.
The second printing looks great! I just noticed that the pdf bookmarks section has a small error. The Magus archetypes are part of the Inquisitor's bookmark instead.
Now that the errata is out, I'd like to pick up a hardcover copy of the second printing. Is what is available now from the Paizo store guaranteed to be a second printing, or are you guys still trying to unload a few first printing books?
Now that the errata is out, I'd like to pick up a hardcover copy of the second printing. Is what is available now from the Paizo store guaranteed to be a second printing, or are you guys still trying to unload a few first printing books?
Paizo doesn't annound new printings/errata until the prior printing has sold out of their warehouse. As such, wheb you order direct from Paizo you will always get the most up-to-date printing.
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Hi James,
I went this morning to my favorite hobby store and got the UMG. After spending a few hours going over it i noticed that it jumps from page 192 to 225!!!!!!!!! This is HIGHLY disapointing b/c it is a long commute and it was the last copy they had. When I noticed I called the store and of course they close early on Sunday's. Best case scenario I hope to get a full refund and not a store refund.
Errata doesn't seem to be incorporated into the lite version of the pdf yet.
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I went this morning to my favorite hobby store and got the UMG. After spending a few hours going over it i noticed that it jumps from page 192 to 225!!!!!!!!! This is HIGHLY disapointing b/c it is a long commute and it was the last copy they had. When I noticed I called the store and of course they close early on Sunday's. Best case scenario I hope to get a full refund and not a store refund.
Hey Michael, I'm sorry to hear that you received a misprinted copy of Ultimate Magic and I want to make sure you receive a copy you're happy with.
We take the quality of our products here at Paizo very seriously, both in their creation and in the condition you receive them in. While misprints are a known problem that occurs in the printing process, we're happy to assist you if your book contain one. Before we take further action we would like to request that you first ask your local hobby store if they can replace your copy, as this is the fastest and easiest method for you to get a proper copy. If your local store is unable to assist you however make sure to let us know at Customer.Service@Paizo.Com and we'll assist you further at that time.
I've sent you an email as well, make sure to let me know if you need further assistance!
- Erik K
Errata doesn't seem to be incorporated into the lite version of the pdf yet.
This was caught and corrected on 5/17/12. An email was sent to all customers with this product in their downloads.
You can now find the Companion Sheet found in this book on the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Resources page.
I'm playing an Alchemist(Chirurgeon) in a friend's campaign right now and i noticed something odd. After losing Posion Use for the Infused Curative ability it seems very odd that the Chirurgeon would still retain the Swift Poisoning Ability at 6th level. what would be an equivalent ability that would actually fit the healing theme of the Chirurgeon?
So if I order now will I be replacing my first printing with a new second printing?
You should receive the latest printing when you order from us directly.
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It looks like the first-to-second printing errata is missing an update. Apparently, a monk's vow of silence (pg 51) now grants 1 ki per level versus the previous 1 ki per six levels. However, it is not mentioned in the errata and has not been updated on the PRD--but the Ultimate Magic PDF and hardcover have been updated. Which is correct?
Another thing to necro this thread over, for some reason while the standard PDF had this problem fixed, the lite PDF for Ultimate Magic still has the missing Magus bookmark in the archetypes section of the book. It's still accidentally lumped in under the Inquisitor.
Okay, having answered that question for UCam, and seen that you've just asked exactly the same question for basically the entire core rules line, I have to ask:
Why do you want to know?
obsessive compulsive disorder, I plan on buying a few hundred dollars worth of material, possibly a thousand dollars worth, and I don't want to buy something if the page count.
Plus I'm not going to wade through 20 pages thread postings to find an answer. I don't think my sanity would hold up.
plus, are you an employee of Paizo, it's looks like your just a subscriber.
It's 255 pages.
plus, are you an employee of Paizo, it's looks like your just a subscriber.
Paizo employees have a golem icon next to their names (like mine does). In the future, I'll make a note to include the page count in the product description when they get added to the website.
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I notice that for the Djinni and Shaitan bloodlines, the Djinni gains electricity resistance and immunity, and Shatain acid resistance and immunity. However, the actual genies gain the reverse. Was this intentional?
No one cares but me.
I notice that for the Djinni and Shaitan bloodlines, the Djinni gains electricity resistance and immunity, and Shatain acid resistance and immunity. However, the actual genies gain the reverse. Was this intentional?
That is weird. I think the Djinni and Shaitan creatures may have their immunities backwards.
That is actually likely a screw up with the Bestiary and not Ultimate Magic. The air genies are supposed to be immune to electricity and the earth genies are supposed to be immune to acid. This shouldn't be a case where earth and air genies are unable to harm the other.
I'm pretty sure the air and earth genies are not supposed to harm each other. Despite their elemental opposition, they aren't actually at war. The djinn actually don't get on with the efreet.
Djinn have had immunity to acid since D&D 3.0. They do not appear to have had any similar trait in AD&D.
Is there a printing with the FAQ'd Bard archetype Sound Striker yet? It was announced in March I think... I loved the alteration 'Weird Words' got.
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The description for icy prison Lists the range as "medium (10 ft. + 10 ft./level)", when it should be "medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)".
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Malfunction requires a Fort save, but doesn't affect objects, so by definition it can't affect constructs, the very creature type it is designed to affect. It needs (object) added to the save line, or the type of save changed.
Malfunction requires a Fort save, but doesn't affect objects, so by definition it can't affect constructs, the very creature type it is designed to affect. It needs (object) added to the save line, or the type of save changed.
Might I direct you here: Ultimate Magic errata thread.
I just dropped my Ultimate Magic hardcover (purchased 10 years ago, May 2011) and the back cover ripped partially from the spine.
So I'm glad to see there are still some of these in stock.
I'm likely to get a second one given the damage to my original.
When did the cover price go up?
is this first edition or second edition? im trying to figure out my books that i have and am getting because for a while my dad told me my rulebook was second edition even though it wasn't and now i don't trust what i think.
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is this first edition or second edition? im trying to figure out my books that i have and am getting because for a while my dad told me my rulebook was second edition even though it wasn't and now i don't trust what i think.
Ultimate Magic is in the First Edition line of rulebooks, visible up at the top of the store page. the 2e equivalent is Secrets of Magic.
is this first edition or second edition? im trying to figure out my books that i have and am getting because for a while my dad told me my rulebook was second edition even though it wasn't and now i don't trust what i think.Ultimate Magic is in the First Edition line of rulebooks, visible up at the top of the store page. the 2e equivalent is Secrets of Magic.
ok thank you