


Welcome to the Summoner Class Playtest!
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by Mark Seifter
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Verzen,
KrispyXIV,
Katrixia
and
16
others
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1,577
posts
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by Sam Phelan
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If we could just have a thread asking what Mark and the rest of the design team can can not say.
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by Pronate11
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Midnightoker,
richienvh,
Temperans
and
22
others
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76
posts
(Closed)
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by Heather F
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Should the class be named something other than summoner?
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by Snes
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Temperans,
AnimatedPaper,
Rysky
and
22
others
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251
posts
(Closed)
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by Heather F
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So, summoners in PF2 are now Stand users. Is that a good thing?
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by Darksol the Painbringer
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OCEANSHIELDWOLPF 2.0,
Temperans,
Rysky
and
26
others
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246
posts
(Closed)
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by Heather F
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Diversity in Eidolons
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by Mathmuse
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Mathmuse,
Midnightoker
and
Salamileg
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6
posts
(Closed)
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by Midnightoker
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Cirieo Thassaddin, Summoner
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by Mathmuse
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Mathmuse,
Charlesfire
and
Sedoriku
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12
posts
(Closed)
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by Mathmuse
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Level 12 play experience.
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by OrochiFuror
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Deriven Firelion,
OrochiFuror,
KrispyXIV
and
3
others
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13
posts
(Closed)
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by Deriven Firelion
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Some ideas for the summoner
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by citricking
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Verzen,
KrispyXIV,
Temperans
and
18
others
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67
posts
(Closed)
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by Loreguard
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Plaguestone - session 3 Experience
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by siegfriedliner
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siegfriedliner
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1
post
(Closed)
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by siegfriedliner
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Synthesis adjustments
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by Verzen
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Verzen,
Gortle,
AnimatedPaper
and
2
others
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6
posts
(Closed)
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by Gortle
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Question about acquiring Dying condition from the shared HP pool.
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by Loreguard
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Lightdroplet
and
Loreguard
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2
posts
(Closed)
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by Lightdroplet
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Eidolon Attack of Opportunity
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by ArbitraryAppellation
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Deriven Firelion,
Loreguard,
KrispyXIV
and
2
others
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5
posts
(Closed)
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by Deriven Firelion
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Eidolon Con Dump Stat
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by siegfriedliner
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graystone
and
siegfriedliner
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2
posts
(Closed)
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by graystone
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Does the eidolon ever roll initiative?
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by ArbitraryAppellation
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KrispyXIV
and
ArbitraryAppellation
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2
posts
(Closed)
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by KrispyXIV
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How are you building your summoner?
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by Creative Burst
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Gortle,
Martialmasters,
Deriven Firelion
and
16
others
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24
posts
(Closed)
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by AnimatedPaper
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Shared Saving Throw Rolls
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by Amaya/Polaris
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KrispyXIV,
Darksol the Painbringer,
Katrixia
and
9
others
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24
posts
(Closed)
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by Vallarthis
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Eidolon’s main stat tied to the Summoner’s Charisma?
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by Rysky
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KrispyXIV,
Verzen,
Rysky
and
7
others
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20
posts
(Closed)
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by Squiggit
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Is shared HP actually new?
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by Dubious Scholar
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Temperans,
Katrixia,
Undraxis
and
7
others
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15
posts
(Closed)
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by Temperans
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Get rid of evolution surge
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by Verzen
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KrispyXIV,
Temperans,
Midnightoker
and
29
others
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145
posts
(Closed)
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by Midnightoker
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Heal, Battle Medicine, and More: how separate is the Eidolon from the Summoner?
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by Tusk the Half-Orc
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Tusk the Half-Orc,
Temperans,
KrispyXIV
and
3
others
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8
posts
(Closed)
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by Tusk the Half-Orc
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Mechanics vs the power of imagination
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by siegfriedliner
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Darksol the Painbringer,
Sagiam,
Temperans
and
25
others
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371
posts
(Closed)
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by Salamileg
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Unfettered Eidolon Focus Spell Duration
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by singingzombies
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Brew Bird
and
singingzombies
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2
posts
(Closed)
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by Brew Bird
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When to use an eidolon or an animal companion?
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by siegfriedliner
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graystone,
RexAliquid,
Deriven Firelion
and
5
others
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9
posts
(Closed)
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by graystone
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Make each Eidolon more unique
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by Verzen
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Verzen
and
CrimsonKnight
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5
posts
(Closed)
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by Verzen
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Final Assessment on the Summoner Class: Current iteration
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by Deriven Firelion
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Verzen,
KrispyXIV,
Rysky
and
15
others
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65
posts
(Closed)
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by Deriven Firelion
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Dumb casting question
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by Moulson
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graystone,
KrispyXIV,
Katrixia
and
6
others
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19
posts
(Closed)
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by Katrixia
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Encorporate Specializations.
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by Verzen
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Verzen
and
Katrixia
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3
posts
(Closed)
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by Katrixia
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Why Summoner Spellcasting is a Trap
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by Jesse_Carl
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KrispyXIV,
Verzen,
Jesse_Carl
and
20
others
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181
posts
(Closed)
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by Midnightoker
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Alternate Eidolon
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by inshal chenet
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Verzen,
inshal chenet,
Temperans
and
Deriven Firelion
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6
posts
(Closed)
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by Temperans
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Animal companions vs Eidolon
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by Verzen
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KrispyXIV,
Midnightoker,
Verzen
and
13
others
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73
posts
(Closed)
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by Midnightoker
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Hit Point Patches
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by siegfriedliner
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KrispyXIV,
Sagiam,
KirinKai
and
5
others
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14
posts
(Closed)
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by Midnightoker
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The Builds - The hypthetical double punishment build
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by Wind Chime
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KrispyXIV,
Verzen,
Castilliano
and
3
others
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12
posts
(Closed)
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by siegfriedliner
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0 Sum Eidolon customization
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by siegfriedliner
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KrispyXIV,
Verzen,
Rysky
and
22
others
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119
posts
(Closed)
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by graystone
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Why the separate hit point pool is important
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by Deriven Firelion
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KrispyXIV,
graystone,
Temperans
and
26
others
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746
posts
(Closed)
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by Physicskid42
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Dragon breath weapon
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by Verzen
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Dαedαlus,
Falgaia,
Verzen
and
5
others
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11
posts
(Closed)
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by Sagiam
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The coolest bit of Narrative in the Summoner Playtest
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by siegfriedliner
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siegfriedliner,
KrispyXIV,
OrochiFuror
and
2
others
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8
posts
(Closed)
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by OrochiFuror
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Eidolon Summoner Ability Modified Some
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by Deriven Firelion
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Deriven Firelion,
KrispyXIV,
Temperans
and
9
others
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45
posts
(Closed)
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by Deriven Firelion
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Viable caster Eidolon
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by Verzen
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Verzen,
CrimsonKnight,
Ruzza
and
Sedoriku
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5
posts
(Closed)
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by Verzen
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Playtest round 2?
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by Samir Sardinha
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Samir Sardinha,
KrispyXIV,
Asethe
and
7
others
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17
posts
(Closed)
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by Samir Sardinha
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Where is an Eidolon when it isn't Manifested?
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by Serum
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RexAliquid,
siegfriedliner,
beowulf99
and
9
others
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12
posts
(Closed)
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by RexAliquid
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Apex Companion Item
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by Sagiam
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OrochiFuror,
KrispyXIV
and
Sagiam
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5
posts
(Closed)
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by OrochiFuror
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Act Together vs Move in Tandem doubt
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by richienvh
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richienvh,
First World Bard
and
KrispyXIV
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4
posts
(Closed)
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by richienvh
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summoner my Ver 0.001a
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by CrimsonKnight
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CrimsonKnight,
Sedoriku,
Deriven Firelion
and
Verzen
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7
posts
(Closed)
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by CrimsonKnight
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Evolution Feat Brainstorming
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by Dubious Scholar
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TheGentlemanDM,
KrispyXIV,
Verzen
and
21
others
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94
posts
(Closed)
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by siegfriedliner
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Large and huge Eidolons
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by Verzen
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KrispyXIV,
Verzen,
OrochiFuror
and
10
others
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28
posts
(Closed)
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by Martialmasters
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Separation of Powers
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by siegfriedliner
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KrispyXIV,
Rysky,
Temperans
and
19
others
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169
posts
(Closed)
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by KrispyXIV
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Question about Flight and Balance
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by inshal chenet
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KrispyXIV,
Temperans,
Ruzza
and
14
others
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83
posts
(Closed)
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by HumbleGamer
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Things and Eidolon should be able to do
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by siegfriedliner
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Perpdepog,
CrimsonKnight
and
siegfriedliner
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3
posts
(Closed)
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by Perpdepog
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Summoning with money.
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by inshal chenet
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inshal chenet,
Ruzza
and
KrispyXIV
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4
posts
(Closed)
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by inshal chenet
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Eidolon Combat Feats
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by siegfriedliner
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Deriven Firelion,
HumbleGamer,
Mark Seifter
and
7
others
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17
posts
(Closed)
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by Deriven Firelion
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Now With Actual Play Experience - Summoner Level 6
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by KrispyXIV
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KrispyXIV,
OrochiFuror,
Martialmasters
and
2
others
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14
posts
(Closed)
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by OrochiFuror
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Level 1 feat
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by Verzen
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Verzen,
Alchemic_Genius,
TheGentlemanDM
and
5
others
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10
posts
(Closed)
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by Alchemic_Genius
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Riding Eidolons
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by Alchemic_Genius
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Alchemic_Genius
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1
post
(Closed)
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by Alchemic_Genius
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Eidolon Archetypes - "Skill Packs"
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by KrispyXIV
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KrispyXIV,
Midnightoker,
Martialmasters
and
Sagiam
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7
posts
(Closed)
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by Midnightoker
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The solution to the Flight Problem
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by siegfriedliner
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KrispyXIV,
Temperans,
Sagiam
and
23
others
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81
posts
(Closed)
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by Temperans
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4 Summoners vs PFS 1-25 Grim Symphony [Spoilers]
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by Falgaia
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Falgaia,
Deriven Firelion,
Rysky
and
4
others
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19
posts
(Closed)
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by Rysky
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Niece builds that only the summoner is good for
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by siegfriedliner
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KrispyXIV,
Martialmasters,
Sagiam
and
4
others
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21
posts
(Closed)
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by KrispyXIV
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An idea to add some more customization for the eidolon at level one without the mess of evolution points and a way to balance certaint options,, Sub-templets.
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by Pronate11
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KrispyXIV,
Pronate11,
Rysky
and
15
others
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72
posts
(Closed)
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by Temperans
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if your eidolon gets hit with flesh to stone do you also turn into a statue?
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by ArchSage20
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Temperans,
Draco18s,
Ruzza
and
13
others
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52
posts
(Closed)
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by Draco18s
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Synthesis as dedication
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by Verzen
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Verzen
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1
post
(Closed)
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by Verzen
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Mostly feel-y reasons I'm less interested in the Summoner.
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by QuidEst
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Pronate11,
QuidEst,
Deadmanwalking
and
14
others
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50
posts
(Closed)
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by AnimatedPaper
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Two changes that made a huge difference for my table.
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by maelstromm15
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graystone,
KrispyXIV,
Deriven Firelion
and
14
others
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49
posts
(Closed)
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by Sagiam
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Wider more diverse eidolon
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by siegfriedliner
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siegfriedliner,
KrispyXIV,
OrochiFuror
and
6
others
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18
posts
(Closed)
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by Sagiam
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Highlighting Pain Points: Boost and Reinforce Eidolon
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by KrispyXIV
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Deriven Firelion,
graystone,
Martialmasters
and
15
others
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37
posts
(Closed)
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by Katrixia
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Summoner: needed clarifications, typos, and 1E artifacts.
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by Donald
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Donald,
Draco18s,
Dubious Scholar
and
4
others
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11
posts
(Closed)
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by Draco18s
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dedications and archetype
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by Verzen
—
Falgaia,
KrispyXIV
and
Verzen
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3
posts
(Closed)
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by Falgaia
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Battle medicine (and other Immune for X abilities) and Eidolons
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by shroudb
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Darksol the Painbringer,
shroudb,
Deriven Firelion
and
7
others
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16
posts
(Closed)
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by Lightdroplet
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Animal Companion versus Eidolon Lvl 20
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by Deriven Firelion
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Deriven Firelion,
KrispyXIV,
oholoko
and
24
others
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106
posts
(Closed)
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by Falgaia
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Trying out level 2 phantom summoner today
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by Bipeo
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Falgaia,
Bipeo,
RexAliquid
and
2
others
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7
posts
(Closed)
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by Falgaia
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Advice on Level 8 phantom summoner
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by GM OfAnything
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GM OfAnything,
Falgaia
and
Deriven Firelion
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5
posts
(Closed)
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by RexAliquid
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how would the shared hp work for a undead, fiend or aberration summoner?
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by ArchSage20
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Ruzza,
Temperans,
ArchSage20
and
17
others
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47
posts
(Closed)
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by ArchSage20
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List of common complaints about the The Summoner so far?
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by siegfriedliner
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Gortle,
Temperans,
TheGentlemanDM
and
6
others
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16
posts
(Closed)
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by Falgaia
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Free Multiclass?
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by Sagiam
—
Sagiam,
Charlesfire
and
Verzen
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5
posts
(Closed)
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by Sagiam
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Summoner King of exceptions
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by siegfriedliner
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KrispyXIV
and
siegfriedliner
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2
posts
(Closed)
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by KrispyXIV
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Phantom Eidelons
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by inshal chenet
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inshal chenet,
KrispyXIV,
The Ronyon
and
6
others
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17
posts
(Closed)
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by KrispyXIV
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What do people picture the summoner doing round to round?
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by Deriven Firelion
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Deriven Firelion,
Ruzza,
Falgaia
and
8
others
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15
posts
(Closed)
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by Falgaia
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Some ideas the improve the eidolon without making major changes
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by Nothing To See Here
—
Charlesfire,
Alchemic_Genius
and
Nothing To See Here
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3
posts
(Closed)
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by Charlesfire
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Angel Summoner, 5th level playtest
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by Shisumo
—
Shisumo
and
KrispyXIV
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3
posts
(Closed)
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by Shisumo
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First session of the our group(Homebrew campaign)
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by oholoko
—
oholoko
and
Asethe
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3
posts
(Closed)
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by oholoko
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Act Together Change and Focus on Summons
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by Deriven Firelion
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Deriven Firelion,
EberronHoward,
Midnightoker
and
3
others
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15
posts
(Closed)
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by EberronHoward
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How does the summoner compare to the spiritualist and hunter?
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by Physicskid42
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Temperans,
Physicskid42,
Joyd
and
5
others
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12
posts
(Closed)
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by Temperans
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Ways to make a Synthesist
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by siegfriedliner
—
siegfriedliner
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1
post
(Closed)
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by siegfriedliner
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Synthesist Power Up
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by siegfriedliner
—
Verzen,
CrimsonKnight,
Katrixia
and
19
others
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56
posts
(Closed)
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by CrimsonKnight
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Could you evaluate my Elf Dragon Summoner level 5 build?
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by Courage Mind
—
Courage Mind
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1
post
(Closed)
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by Courage Mind
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Why on earth is Winged Evolution a 16th-level feat!?
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by Ravingdork
—
KrispyXIV,
Temperans,
Sagiam
and
22
others
|
107
posts
(Closed)
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by Gortle
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Spellcasting Eidolon
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by Verzen
—
Alchemic_Genius,
KrispyXIV
and
Verzen
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3
posts
(Closed)
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by Alchemic_Genius
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A very boring and simple fix for Summoners and summoning that works for new players.
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by QuidEst
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QuidEst,
Alchemic_Genius,
Gortle
and
5
others
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10
posts
(Closed)
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by Alchemic_Genius
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[Warning: long text, TL;DR at the end] My thoughts on why the summoner might feel uninteresting and a possible way to fix it.
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by Hikiomaru
—
Gortle,
Dubious Scholar
and
Hikiomaru
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4
posts
(Closed)
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by Dubious Scholar
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What are the Must-Have Options for Summoner?
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by Castilliano
—
Castilliano,
Invictus Novo,
Martialmasters
and
8
others
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12
posts
(Closed)
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by Invictus Novo
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No better team: Arm in arm we win the fight
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by Ediwir
—
Elorebaen,
graystone,
Martialmasters
and
2
others
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5
posts
(Closed)
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by Elorebaen
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Summoner and Confusion
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by Falgaia
—
David knott 242,
Dubious Scholar,
Uchuujin
and
5
others
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8
posts
(Closed)
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by David knott 242
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Summoner Design Ideas
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by Deriven Firelion
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Deriven Firelion,
Temperans,
Sedoriku
and
11
others
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44
posts
(Closed)
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by Sedoriku
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Fun things for the summoner to do
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by siegfriedliner
—
Alchemic_Genius,
Falgaia,
KrispyXIV
and
siegfriedliner
|
4
posts
(Closed)
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by Alchemic_Genius
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Exploration and the Summoner
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by Paul Watson
—
SuperBidi,
manbearscientist,
KrispyXIV
and
7
others
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24
posts
(Closed)
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by Ravingdork
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Eidolon rider
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by Samir Sardinha
—
Samir Sardinha
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1
post
(Closed)
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by Samir Sardinha
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Bouncing Back from Zero
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by siegfriedliner
—
siegfriedliner,
KrispyXIV,
David knott 242
and
10
others
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21
posts
(Closed)
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by Vallarthis
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PFS1-05 Play Through w / Summoner
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by Invictus Novo
—
Dubious Scholar,
Mark Seifter,
Verzen
and
13
others
|
37
posts
(Closed)
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by Deriven Firelion
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What Eidolon types would you like / are you looking forward to?
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by Sagiam
—
AnimatedPaper,
KrispyXIV,
Sedoriku
and
24
others
|
37
posts
(Closed)
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by ArchSage20
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I like the shared HP pool
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by Capn Cupcake
—
TheGentlemanDM,
Mellored,
SuperBidi
and
31
others
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65
posts
(Closed)
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by Temperans
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What on earth would the multiclass archetype look like?
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by PossibleCabbage
—
PossibleCabbage,
Arachnofiend,
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