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Welcome to the Summoner Class Playtest!
(Sticky)
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by Mark Seifter
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Verzen,
KrispyXIV,
Katrixia
and
16
others
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1,577
posts
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by Sam Phelan
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Why the separate hit point pool is important
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by Deriven Firelion
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KrispyXIV,
graystone,
Temperans
and
26
others
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746
posts
(Closed)
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by Physicskid42
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Mechanics vs the power of imagination
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by siegfriedliner
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Darksol the Painbringer,
Sagiam,
Temperans
and
25
others
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371
posts
(Closed)
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by Salamileg
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Should the class be named something other than summoner?
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by Snes
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Temperans,
AnimatedPaper,
Rysky
and
22
others
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251
posts
(Closed)
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by Heather F
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So, summoners in PF2 are now Stand users. Is that a good thing?
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by Darksol the Painbringer
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OCEANSHIELDWOLPF 2.0,
Temperans,
Rysky
and
26
others
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246
posts
(Closed)
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by Heather F
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Why Summoner Spellcasting is a Trap
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by Jesse_Carl
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KrispyXIV,
Verzen,
Jesse_Carl
and
20
others
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181
posts
(Closed)
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by Midnightoker
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Separation of Powers
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by siegfriedliner
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KrispyXIV,
Rysky,
Temperans
and
19
others
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169
posts
(Closed)
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by KrispyXIV
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What does the summoner excel at?
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by siegfriedliner
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KrispyXIV,
Martialmasters,
graystone
and
24
others
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165
posts
(Closed)
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by Temperans
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Get rid of evolution surge
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by Verzen
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KrispyXIV,
Temperans,
Midnightoker
and
29
others
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145
posts
(Closed)
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by Midnightoker
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What does Charisma do for you?
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by WatersLethe
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graystone,
Martialmasters,
Deadmanwalking
and
24
others
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144
posts
(Closed)
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by citricking
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Summoner; a closer look
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by Martialmasters
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Martialmasters,
KrispyXIV,
SuperBidi
and
23
others
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124
posts
(Closed)
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by graystone
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0 Sum Eidolon customization
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by siegfriedliner
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KrispyXIV,
Verzen,
Rysky
and
22
others
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119
posts
(Closed)
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by graystone
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Why on earth is Winged Evolution a 16th-level feat!?
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by Ravingdork
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KrispyXIV,
Temperans,
Sagiam
and
22
others
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107
posts
(Closed)
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by Gortle
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Animal Companion versus Eidolon Lvl 20
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by Deriven Firelion
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Deriven Firelion,
KrispyXIV,
oholoko
and
24
others
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106
posts
(Closed)
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by Falgaia
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summoner seems nearly unplayable?
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by Martialmasters
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Martialmasters,
Falgaia,
Deadmanwalking
and
34
others
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102
posts
(Closed)
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by Draco18s
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Strengths of the current summoner
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by siegfriedliner
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Verzen,
Rysky,
KrispyXIV
and
15
others
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99
posts
(Closed)
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by Gortle
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Let's get the Synthesist thread out of the way.
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by QuidEst
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Charlesfire,
Deadmanwalking,
beowulf99
and
29
others
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96
posts
(Closed)
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by BACE
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Evolution Feat Brainstorming
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by Dubious Scholar
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TheGentlemanDM,
KrispyXIV,
Verzen
and
21
others
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94
posts
(Closed)
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by siegfriedliner
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Question about Flight and Balance
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by inshal chenet
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KrispyXIV,
Temperans,
Ruzza
and
14
others
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83
posts
(Closed)
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by HumbleGamer
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The solution to the Flight Problem
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by siegfriedliner
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KrispyXIV,
Temperans,
Sagiam
and
23
others
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81
posts
(Closed)
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by Temperans
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If we could just have a thread asking what Mark and the rest of the design team can can not say.
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by Pronate11
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Midnightoker,
richienvh,
Temperans
and
22
others
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76
posts
(Closed)
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by Heather F
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Animal companions vs Eidolon
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by Verzen
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KrispyXIV,
Midnightoker,
Verzen
and
13
others
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73
posts
(Closed)
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by Midnightoker
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An idea to add some more customization for the eidolon at level one without the mess of evolution points and a way to balance certaint options,, Sub-templets.
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by Pronate11
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KrispyXIV,
Pronate11,
Rysky
and
15
others
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72
posts
(Closed)
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by Temperans
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Remove spellcasting - Add in evolutions.
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by Verzen
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Verzen,
KrispyXIV,
cavernshark
and
17
others
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71
posts
(Closed)
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by ruimpranick
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Some ideas for the summoner
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by citricking
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Verzen,
KrispyXIV,
Temperans
and
18
others
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67
posts
(Closed)
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by Loreguard
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Summoner / Eidolon Quality Of Life Issues
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by Deadmanwalking
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Deadmanwalking,
Charlesfire,
Verzen
and
18
others
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66
posts
(Closed)
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by PossibleCabbage
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Final Assessment on the Summoner Class: Current iteration
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by Deriven Firelion
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Verzen,
KrispyXIV,
Rysky
and
15
others
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65
posts
(Closed)
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by Deriven Firelion
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I like the shared HP pool
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by Capn Cupcake
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TheGentlemanDM,
Mellored,
SuperBidi
and
31
others
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65
posts
(Closed)
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by Temperans
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Hulking Eidolon feat line
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by Deinonychus
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Martialmasters,
KrispyXIV,
shroudb
and
16
others
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58
posts
(Closed)
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by Zioalca
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Suggestions of how to "improve" the summoner
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by Samir Sardinha
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Verzen,
KrispyXIV,
Martialmasters
and
16
others
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58
posts
(Closed)
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by Martialmasters
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Synthesist Power Up
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by siegfriedliner
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Verzen,
CrimsonKnight,
Katrixia
and
19
others
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56
posts
(Closed)
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by CrimsonKnight
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if your eidolon gets hit with flesh to stone do you also turn into a statue?
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by ArchSage20
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Temperans,
Draco18s,
Ruzza
and
13
others
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52
posts
(Closed)
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by Draco18s
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Should the summoner have 12 or more HP?
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by Ravingdork
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Katrixia,
Squiggit,
Martialmasters
and
16
others
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52
posts
(Closed)
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by Katrixia
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Mostly feel-y reasons I'm less interested in the Summoner.
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by QuidEst
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Pronate11,
QuidEst,
Deadmanwalking
and
14
others
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50
posts
(Closed)
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by AnimatedPaper
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Two changes that made a huge difference for my table.
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by maelstromm15
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graystone,
KrispyXIV,
Deriven Firelion
and
14
others
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49
posts
(Closed)
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by Sagiam
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how would the shared hp work for a undead, fiend or aberration summoner?
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by ArchSage20
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Ruzza,
Temperans,
ArchSage20
and
17
others
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47
posts
(Closed)
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by ArchSage20
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Eidolon Summoner Ability Modified Some
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by Deriven Firelion
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Deriven Firelion,
KrispyXIV,
Temperans
and
9
others
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45
posts
(Closed)
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by Deriven Firelion
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Summoner Design Ideas
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by Deriven Firelion
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Deriven Firelion,
Temperans,
Sedoriku
and
11
others
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44
posts
(Closed)
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by Sedoriku
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Highlighting Pain Points: Boost and Reinforce Eidolon
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by KrispyXIV
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Deriven Firelion,
graystone,
Martialmasters
and
15
others
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37
posts
(Closed)
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by Katrixia
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PFS1-05 Play Through w / Summoner
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by Invictus Novo
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Dubious Scholar,
Mark Seifter,
Verzen
and
13
others
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37
posts
(Closed)
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by Deriven Firelion
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What Eidolon types would you like / are you looking forward to?
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by Sagiam
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AnimatedPaper,
KrispyXIV,
Sedoriku
and
24
others
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37
posts
(Closed)
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by ArchSage20
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Would rather play anything else
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by Verzen
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Verzen,
Martialmasters,
KrispyXIV
and
14
others
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37
posts
(Closed)
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by graystone
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First thoughts
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by Picaboo32
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Dubious Scholar,
KrispyXIV,
Temperans
and
19
others
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37
posts
(Closed)
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by Dubious Scholar
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The Eidolon is an extra character
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by SuperBidi
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KrispyXIV,
SuperBidi,
Martialmasters
and
9
others
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36
posts
(Closed)
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by SuperBidi
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Having to take Summon spells with such a limited repertoire feels weird.
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by Ice Titan
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Martialmasters,
Orithilaen,
Ice Titan
and
14
others
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33
posts
(Closed)
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by jdripley
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Inverting the summoner, have all the power in the eidolon, summoner like an animal companion
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by citricking
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Verzen,
Martialmasters,
cavernshark
and
10
others
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30
posts
(Closed)
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by CrimsonKnight
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Just give summoners a buffed animal companion
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by ruimpranick
—
ruimpranick,
siegfriedliner,
OrochiFuror
and
12
others
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29
posts
(Closed)
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by Sedoriku
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Large and huge Eidolons
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by Verzen
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KrispyXIV,
Verzen,
OrochiFuror
and
10
others
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28
posts
(Closed)
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by Martialmasters
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What happens if you and your eidolon both eat a fireball?
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by Ravingdork
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Ravingdork,
TheGentlemanDM,
Squiggit
and
11
others
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28
posts
(Closed)
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by Ravingdork
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Dragon Eidolons are a mistake
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by siegfriedliner
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Falgaia,
siegfriedliner,
WatersLethe
and
16
others
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27
posts
(Closed)
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by MaxAstro
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Customization Options at Level 1 - Numbering 3
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by KrispyXIV
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Verzen,
KrispyXIV,
cavernshark
and
7
others
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26
posts
(Closed)
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by TheGentlemanDM
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How are you building your summoner?
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by Creative Burst
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Gortle,
Martialmasters,
Deriven Firelion
and
16
others
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24
posts
(Closed)
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by AnimatedPaper
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Shared Saving Throw Rolls
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by Amaya/Polaris
—
KrispyXIV,
Darksol the Painbringer,
Katrixia
and
9
others
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24
posts
(Closed)
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by Vallarthis
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Exploration and the Summoner
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by Paul Watson
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SuperBidi,
manbearscientist,
KrispyXIV
and
7
others
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24
posts
(Closed)
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by Ravingdork
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Separate Eidolon evolution feats and summoner feats
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by Verzen
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Verzen,
Dubious Scholar,
KrispyXIV
and
3
others
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23
posts
(Closed)
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by Verzen
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Niece builds that only the summoner is good for
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by siegfriedliner
—
KrispyXIV,
Martialmasters,
Sagiam
and
4
others
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21
posts
(Closed)
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by KrispyXIV
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Bouncing Back from Zero
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by siegfriedliner
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siegfriedliner,
KrispyXIV,
David knott 242
and
10
others
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21
posts
(Closed)
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by Vallarthis
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Any interest in a stay-at-home Summoner?
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by WatersLethe
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CrimsonKnight,
David knott 242,
WatersLethe
and
10
others
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21
posts
(Closed)
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by David knott 242
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Eidolon’s main stat tied to the Summoner’s Charisma?
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by Rysky
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KrispyXIV,
Verzen,
Rysky
and
7
others
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20
posts
(Closed)
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by Squiggit
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What's the point of the Summoner part of the Summoner class?
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by Tectorman
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Temperans,
KrispyXIV,
Capn Cupcake
and
11
others
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20
posts
(Closed)
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by Rysky
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Multiclass Epiphany
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by KrispyXIV
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KrispyXIV,
graystone,
siegfriedliner
and
10
others
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20
posts
(Closed)
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by Sedoriku
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Dumb casting question
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by Moulson
—
graystone,
KrispyXIV,
Katrixia
and
6
others
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19
posts
(Closed)
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by Katrixia
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4 Summoners vs PFS 1-25 Grim Symphony [Spoilers]
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by Falgaia
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Falgaia,
Deriven Firelion,
Rysky
and
4
others
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19
posts
(Closed)
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by Rysky
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Wider more diverse eidolon
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by siegfriedliner
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siegfriedliner,
KrispyXIV,
OrochiFuror
and
6
others
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18
posts
(Closed)
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by Sagiam
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Eidolon Weapons
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by siegfriedliner
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KrispyXIV,
HumbleGamer,
Pronate11
and
6
others
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18
posts
(Closed)
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by OrochiFuror
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An idea to bridge the gap.
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by Verzen
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Verzen,
KrispyXIV
and
OrochiFuror
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18
posts
(Closed)
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by OrochiFuror
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Summoner "Schools" - Proposal
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by KrispyXIV
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KrispyXIV,
Verzen,
Justpassingthrough
and
6
others
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18
posts
(Closed)
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by KrispyXIV
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Playtest round 2?
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by Samir Sardinha
—
Samir Sardinha,
KrispyXIV,
Asethe
and
7
others
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17
posts
(Closed)
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by Samir Sardinha
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Eidolon Combat Feats
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by siegfriedliner
—
Deriven Firelion,
HumbleGamer,
Mark Seifter
and
7
others
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17
posts
(Closed)
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by Deriven Firelion
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Phantom Eidelons
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by inshal chenet
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inshal chenet,
KrispyXIV,
The Ronyon
and
6
others
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17
posts
(Closed)
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by KrispyXIV
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Battle medicine (and other Immune for X abilities) and Eidolons
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by shroudb
—
Darksol the Painbringer,
shroudb,
Deriven Firelion
and
7
others
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16
posts
(Closed)
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by Lightdroplet
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List of common complaints about the The Summoner so far?
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by siegfriedliner
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Gortle,
Temperans,
TheGentlemanDM
and
6
others
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16
posts
(Closed)
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by Falgaia
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Ideas to change summoner
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by Martialmasters
—
KrispyXIV,
Martialmasters,
Verzen
and
4
others
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16
posts
(Closed)
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by Gortle
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Summoner could use a summon focus
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by Invictus Novo
—
Invictus Novo,
Eoni,
Castilliano
and
8
others
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16
posts
(Closed)
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by Eoni
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My idea of what potential Summoner Evolutions using points would be like.
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by Temperans
—
Verzen,
Temperans
and
cavernshark
|
16
posts
(Closed)
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by Temperans
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Mathematical Issues with Eidolon Stats
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by Deriven Firelion
—
Deriven Firelion,
oholoko,
Perpdepog
and
5
others
|
16
posts
(Closed)
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by xevious573
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Summoner Action Economy
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by siegfriedliner
—
KrispyXIV,
Quandary,
SuperBidi
and
7
others
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16
posts
(Closed)
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by shroudb
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Is shared HP actually new?
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by Dubious Scholar
—
Temperans,
Katrixia,
Undraxis
and
7
others
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15
posts
(Closed)
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by Temperans
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What do people picture the summoner doing round to round?
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by Deriven Firelion
—
Deriven Firelion,
Ruzza,
Falgaia
and
8
others
|
15
posts
(Closed)
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by Falgaia
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Act Together Change and Focus on Summons
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by Deriven Firelion
—
Deriven Firelion,
EberronHoward,
Midnightoker
and
3
others
|
15
posts
(Closed)
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by EberronHoward
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Hit Point Patches
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by siegfriedliner
—
KrispyXIV,
Sagiam,
KirinKai
and
5
others
|
14
posts
(Closed)
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by Midnightoker
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Now With Actual Play Experience - Summoner Level 6
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by KrispyXIV
—
KrispyXIV,
OrochiFuror,
Martialmasters
and
2
others
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14
posts
(Closed)
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by OrochiFuror
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Eidolon's should benefit from Apex items and get better stats in general.
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by Raveve
—
KrispyXIV,
Dubious Scholar,
siegfriedliner
and
5
others
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14
posts
(Closed)
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by Dubious Scholar
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My Thoughts on the Summoner Class
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by Dargath
—
Dargath,
Verzen,
TheGentlemanDM
and
4
others
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14
posts
(Closed)
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by Dargath
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What do you like about the playtest Summoner?
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by Salamileg
—
MaxAstro,
KrispyXIV,
Martialmasters
and
8
others
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14
posts
(Closed)
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by Thaliak
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Can we talk about the Sigil?
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by Reticent
—
Reticent,
Voss,
Moppy
and
5
others
|
14
posts
(Closed)
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by David knott 242
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Level 12 play experience.
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by OrochiFuror
—
Deriven Firelion,
OrochiFuror,
KrispyXIV
and
3
others
|
13
posts
(Closed)
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by Deriven Firelion
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Cirieo Thassaddin, Summoner
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by Mathmuse
—
Mathmuse,
Charlesfire
and
Sedoriku
|
12
posts
(Closed)
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by Mathmuse
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The Builds - The hypthetical double punishment build
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by Wind Chime
—
KrispyXIV,
Verzen,
Castilliano
and
3
others
|
12
posts
(Closed)
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by siegfriedliner
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Where is an Eidolon when it isn't Manifested?
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by Serum
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RexAliquid,
siegfriedliner,
beowulf99
and
9
others
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12
posts
(Closed)
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by RexAliquid
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How does the summoner compare to the spiritualist and hunter?
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by Physicskid42
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Temperans,
Physicskid42,
Joyd
and
5
others
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12
posts
(Closed)
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by Temperans
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What are the Must-Have Options for Summoner?
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by Castilliano
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Castilliano,
Invictus Novo,
Martialmasters
and
8
others
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12
posts
(Closed)
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by Invictus Novo
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Feat Suggestion: Strike Together.
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by Falgaia
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Falgaia,
KrispyXIV,
TheGentlemanDM
and
5
others
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12
posts
(Closed)
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by cavernshark
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Ranged evolution
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by Verzen
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Verzen,
graystone,
Dubious Scholar
and
4
others
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12
posts
(Closed)
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by graystone
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Dragon breath weapon
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by Verzen
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Dαedαlus,
Falgaia,
Verzen
and
5
others
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11
posts
(Closed)
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by Sagiam
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Summoner: needed clarifications, typos, and 1E artifacts.
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by Donald
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Donald,
Draco18s,
Dubious Scholar
and
4
others
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11
posts
(Closed)
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by Draco18s
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Level 1 feat
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by Verzen
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Verzen,
Alchemic_Genius,
TheGentlemanDM
and
5
others
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10
posts
(Closed)
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by Alchemic_Genius
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A very boring and simple fix for Summoners and summoning that works for new players.
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by QuidEst
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QuidEst,
Alchemic_Genius,
Gortle
and
5
others
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10
posts
(Closed)
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by Alchemic_Genius
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Combo with Devise a Stratagem
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by SuperBidi
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SuperBidi,
shroudb,
Xenocrat
and
3
others
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10
posts
(Closed)
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by Xenocrat
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When to use an eidolon or an animal companion?
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by siegfriedliner
—
graystone,
RexAliquid,
Deriven Firelion
and
5
others
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9
posts
(Closed)
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by graystone
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