GM Erich's PFS #7-13 Captive in Crystal (High Subtier 7-9) for NostalgiaCon (Inactive)

Game Master Thereus, Silver Crusader

This is the Discussion thread.

Thanks again for GMing!!

Hi, this Fung, kuey's aerokineticist.

Since we have a few on the waitlist, go ahead and post your character introduction in the Gameplay thread now so I know you are ready to go and we will start the adventures on Monday.

Also, make sure your character sheet is filled out and up to date.

Am on vacation currently and will return Tuesday. Will post then!

@Xuan Are you doing normal or slow XP?

@Arrius Don't forget to update your character sheet and tagline. 18 hp won't get you far in this scenario, but you're a psychic - so you already knew that. :)

So we have and Elly and and Elby, and a Zeno and a Xuan. Way to make it easy on me folks. :)

I have to be away for the next 48 hours or so, so please bot me as needed. (and I promise I'll get my character sheet and tagline fixed over the weekend!)

So we have and Elly and and Elby, and a Zeno and a Xuan. Way to make it easy on me folks. :)

Well, technically Fung since as a Tian-Shu, Xuan would be his family name. Way to make it more confusing. :)

NOTA BENE: Last year, I did something I'd never done before: Made a New Year's Resolution and kept to it the whole year. That resolution (combining traditions, you might say, as my household always has) was to declare 1 day/week my "Internet Shabbat", and this year I've resolved to expand upon it.

Practically speaking for the rest of you, this means expect silence from me every Monday, and reduced/unreliable activity on SAT/SUN (I'm still sorting out the proper limits to set for those two days).

Sorry for being MIA. Work was crazy but things should have settled down a bit.

No worries, you are up again. I think I did your first round attack right, you took 2 burn.

What is these things' reach? I am assuming a ranged attack would provoke anywhere within it. Any way to prevent AoOs in this situation?

You've been fighting them for long enough, I guess I can tell you...

Strangely enough, when they upgraded this monster for high tier from it's low-level (small) form, they did not change the reach (even for the huge one). So I am going with 5 feet as written. You're welcome.

Thanks!! ;-)

@Fung I know the infusion part wouldn't from that clause, I was asking about whether the blast you are modifying itself still would. It is still a SP ability right? I'm leaning toward yes. Sorry, just trying to learn the intricacies of the class.

"By using infusions along with her kinetic blasts, a kineticist can alter her kinetic blasts to suit her needs."

I can see the point though that it is really modifying an attack action from the way it is written, so maybe not. I hate that they use the word "additional" too. Just seems weird that it's the only infusion that gets rid of the SLA nature of the blast if that's true. But I guess we will roll with that explanation.

Ah, I get where you're coming from. Kinetic Blast are SLA and provokes AoO. However, infusions in themselves are supernatural abilities which typically don't provoke AoO.

What complicates things is that most infusions modify kinetic blast. So if a kineticist uses, say, bowling infusion with his earth blast, while the bowling infusion doesn't provoke AoO, you can't use it without also using kinetic blast, which will provoke. However, if you read the description, kinetic blade (and it's derivatives like kinetic whip) is different because it doesn't actually modify a kinetic blast. Instead, it forms a blade that does the same damage as a kinetic blast. It doesn't actually get rid of the SLA. Instead, the kineticist never activated a kinetic blast in the first place, i.e. no AoO. Hope that helps.

"Some infusions ... entirely transform the kinetic blast’s normal effects", i.e. not all infusions work by altering the kinetic blasts.

And oh yes, this is the reason also why a kineticist can do iterative attacks and hasted attacks with kinetic blade/whip. A kinetic blast is an SLA which is a standard action, i.e. can't make full attack action. But a kinetic blade/whip doesn't activate kinetic blast and is used as part of an attack action, and hence it can.

Separately, using a kinetic blast actually provokes AoO twice - once for activating an SLA and another for making a range attack. I learnt that the hard way early on in Fung's career...

Yes, kineticist is a rather complicated class and even after playing Fung for a number of years, I still have to look up the rules from time to time.

Thanks, that's the impression I eventually got by reviewing the forum posts about it.

I'm super-sorry for going MIA so long; stressful week, hardware problems, AND OF COURSE that damned lockout bug that this site's been under all week.

Also, it appears those Boots ONLY work for Rangers, am I reading that correctly?

FINALLY: Score!!! Once we have the time (and it just so happens I require less anyway), I WILL want to crib from that grimoire we just found!

Just making sure everyone is on the same page because the stakes are high and we have about two weeks to finish. The constructs have hardness that is preventing some damage from each strike, worse that that - once you destroy one you have now found out it seems to regenerate anew from the ground a round later (it is essentially the room's "protection").

The invisible creature has its own unique defenses that will make it difficult to kill and it will eventually be pretty lethal with its sonic attack. As someone said you need to reveal it as soon as you can and bring it down.

@Fung Based on this list it doesn't look like a wysp can grasp an item so I don't believe it can help you with your potion.

Hi guys,
I am so undecided.

Dana has no possibility to detect the invisible being and no possibility to do anything against the legs.

If you have any suggestion then please tell me what to and go through my char sheet if you like.

:-/

Hi guys,

I am so undecided.

Dana has no possibility to detect the invisible being and no possibility to do anything against the legs.

If you have any suggestion then please tell me what to and go through my char sheet if you like.

:-/

The scroll of see invisibility could help. Only targets you but at least one person can target it. Barring that, obscuring mist would make everyone nonvisible to everyone. :)

Haste might also help to give us more attacks, i.e. more chances to land a strike despite the miss chance.

It seems to be doing sonic damage so resist energy would help at least 1 person.

OMG!! I totally forgot that I’ve got that see invisibility scroll!!

So who wants that?!? Who can use it? Or should Dana use it?

Whoever uses it would not get the 50% miss chance for invisibility. I am assuming that whoever can see the creature can give enough off-turn direction for others to at least target the square the creature is in (although some spells/abilities still need you to actually see the target to use).

It is a personal only spell - so only Dana, Arrius and Zeno can cast it on themselves. Only Dana can draw it and cast this turn so others can effectively target the invisible wisp. That is what I will assume unless Dana chimes in soon.

Okay!

@Ellyjoybell Based on this line I don't think you can charge the invisible creature:

If you don’t have line of sight to the opponent at the start of your turn, you can’t charge that opponent

If you want to change your target to one of the legs , that's cool.

Thanks again for botting GM and also discovering the scroll Fung. :-)

@Xuan Fung - For the chronicle, are you doing normal or slow XP?

I was thinking about going slow but I will go normal track.

Oh I'm going normal XP.

OK, I have everyone down for normal track right now.

Yes, 3-D combats are a pain. The extra slide for the side view helps sometimes.

Also, as you can probably guess, we are almost done.

Everyone can roll a d20 for a boon. A 19 or 20 wins, winners need to then roll a d2 to see which boon.

After you do that, feel free to give me your Day Job roll if you need to do that too.

1d20 ⇒ 14

Alas, I forgot to mention, you have the opportunity for a unique Day Job for this scenario

Day Job: Although the number of deadly denizens and territorial guardians make it nearly impossible to sustain a mining operation in the Crystal Womb, any PC who uses Craft (gem cutting) or Profession (miner) for her Day Job check at the end of this adventure earns double the normal amount of gold from that check (maximum 450 gp total). This is a one-time benefit and does not apply to future adventures.

Let me know your appropriate bonus and we can use your d20 roll to calculate your Day Job this way instead if you'd like.

1d20 ⇒ 19

Craft alchemy is +14.

Profession (Scholar): 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (3) + 6 = 9
Boon?: 1d20 ⇒ 18

VERY sorry for missing for so long...and DARN THE LUCK that my Jeweler character (who's still a bit too low-level) wasn't in this (guess I can spend a replay, eventually...)!

Craft (Cartography), Faction Pin: 1d20 + 27 ⇒ (8) + 27 = 35

Boon?: 1d20 ⇒ 10

boon?: 1d20 ⇒ 1
profession (herbalist): 1d20 + 10 ⇒ (6) + 10 = 16

Elby and Elly still need your boon rolls and day job checks

If you win a boon, I'll need an email so they can send your boon.

Sorry, I kept forgetting to check this channel for some reason.

Day Job: 1d20 + 6 ⇒ (15) + 6 = 21

Boon?: 1d20 ⇒ 17

Is the gemstone an item with an effect strongly tied to earth worth at least 1200 gp? Will affect whether I roll for faction goal or day job.

Boon: 1d20 ⇒ 15

It is a primal earth elemental gem (moderate conjuration aura - CL 11) worth 3,300 gp. I would say yes.

Day job it is, then.

Profession Comedy: 1d20 + 3 ⇒ (14) + 3 = 17

Great closing! Thanks GM (and fellow players) for a fun game. Some tough battles!

That does it, folks. It was a pleasure to have run this for you.

I have reported the game and your chronicles are located here. Let me know if there are any issues.

I'll leave the game open for a few more days if you want to role play your way out. Good luck in all your next adventures!

Chronicle looks good (though I thought oreads were always available by season 7).

Thans to everyone for a great game, especially Erich for running!

Thanks a lot!!

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Test spelled backwards is Tset.

Test spelled backwards is Tset.

I won't, but I'm *almost* tempted to make a new alias who's supposed to be a bogus Egyptian deity.