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Hello everyone. I'm excited to get started with the campaign. As we are prepping, I want to finalize builds, make sure everyone has workable complications, and just get some good vibes going.

Some of us know each other and others not so much. Introduce yourselves a bit as players if you don't mind.

I do want to look at builds and make sure everyone has a niche. We have Herakles, Jason Prince, and Superboy/Sentry (not sure which alias we are using). These are all very strong characters. Herakles and Jason in particular have a lot of overlap.

I don't see those overlaps as a problem. I think there is a lot of cool rp potential between those characters, but I want to make sure everyone feels special and cool.

Advantages like Ultimate Effort could help. There was a 2nd edition Feat (I think) called Niche Protection that we could maybe port over.

Maggie Mui feels pretty unique, so I don't think there is too much danger of her feeling redundant. I need to do some watching to get this character.

Spider-Woman and Blue Beetle (and Maggie) hopefully bring some fun mortals in an almost unthinkable situation. They seem like a solid street level team to match with our three god-like characters.

Everyone join the conversation and get your profiles together. We can deal with builds.

I hope to get started early next week, depending on your needs.

In the very very near future, I will have some colorful backstory added as to why Jason's nickname is Rion, but for now let's just say that at one point, in Ancient Greece, he had 3 fathers.

To be honest, I am excited about the overlap that ST was talking about, because Herakles & Jason are very different sons of Zeus. At least one interesting wrinkle that came up in my development process is that there has never been (that I found) any referrence of Hera having any issue with Hippolyta's twins; that said, I will keep looking.

Looking forward to this!

Likewise - appreciate the opportunity ST - also also looking forward to RPing with these cool mix of characters.

@Jason: Hera probably reserved all her enmity towards Herakles ;)

Will have a look at Herak's build and see if there's anything lacking (in respect to the team also). He raided Ares' mythic armoury during WW2 so could populate with some other devices... will see.

Golden Sica of Athena is one I'm considering - the golden blade he (according to some mythic sources) used to slay the Lernaean Hydra... food for thought. Also his Hydra Poisoned Arrows... Mmm.

@ST - Will you be setting up a Discord for this group or will we just work here on the boards?

Woot! Super happy for another ST meeting!

Look forward to any build feedback.

Cheers

Pleasure to be in another game with you--I think I've played with most of you before, and looking forward to joining you with Maggie and having fun together again. She's a rather odd duck of a hero, and a bit different from my normal type, which is refreshing. (She's very quiet so if I play her correctly, please note she may not do a lot of talking.)

Unfortunately formal licensing for distribution of R.O.D the TV has all lapsed everywhere, so you have to dig for places to view it. I'll PM you with more info, including I can mail you a copy of a DVD with the first few episodes (I have two copies). But I do highly recommend it.

Something occurred to me: since this is going to be a multiversal jaunt and we may meet people who are fictional characters in our own or similar worlds--or even mythical heroes like Herakles, indeed--I wonder, since Maggie has read, like, every book, would a Feature power (or maybe Benefit Advantage) like "Fourth Wall Knowledge" be appropriate? E.g., Maggie has read Bram Stoker's Dracula and if we meet Dracula, can she make an Investigation or Expertise check to bring up useful information about how we might be able to defeat Dracula? I don't want this to be too powerful, but I'm thinking if (a) it requires a check to produce useful information and (b) it isn't always reliable (the book she read may have it wrong). I've got a few power points to spend yet and that could be a use for them.

PS: Made some tweaks to the paper summons builds as had not consistently done their Protection power correctly, and changed one of the Snake's powers from Immunity to Prone to the Slithering movement ability. I should have hopefully traded off point counts correctly in the process.

@Maggie Mui: Guess its up to ST but a "4th Wall Bibliognosis" would be pretty cool... an inside track on folk but also perhaps significant events (from that reality)... Thinking is if she's read every book chances are someone from somewhere has catalogued an account of said universe - be it fictional or factual... (or a Trojan Horse of truth dressed as fable etc)

Also would it be worth investing in Quickness (Limited to Reading?) so she can process written knowledge quicker than most folk?? Not familiar with the character or setting (outwith what I've started reading into) so not sure if that's in keeping with your ideal of Maggie?

@Sentry: Have a flavour question regards Sentry's backstory - is there a chance his faux memories could become deprogrammed or experience a Matrix style "glitch"? The whole macguffin of implanted memories in storytelling is often to have the capacity for said memories to unravel or have deep planted triggers within them. You could have a passel of fun with his complications on that front...

@Sentry: Have a flavour question regards Sentry's backstory - is there a chance his faux memories could become deprogrammed or experience a Matrix style "glitch"? The whole macguffin of implanted memories in storytelling is often to have the capacity for said memories to unravel or have deep planted triggers within them. You could have a passel of fun with his complications on that front...

Absolutely. I included that in his Personality and planned to do that, but neglected to add it in his Complications. Need to brainstorm wording.

@ST - Will you be setting up a Discord for this group or will we just work here on the boards?

I'm not opposed to a Discord. I've never used one for a game like this before. What would we do there that we wouldn't do here?

I need to dig into builds, and honestly that isn't going to happen until the weekend.

Especially between Jason, Sentry, Herakles, what makes each one unique (with regard to powers, I get the story differences).

I know that BD wants Herakles to be able to do crazy feats of strength, for example, so I want to make sure he is built in that direction.

When I created my version of Sentry, I wanted him to be able to do some of those crazy things that Superman can do that don't get into a Paragon build most of the time, so he has crazy speed, hearing, strength, and Toughness. For me, his Toughness was probably most important. He is heavily shifted toward Toughness. Maybe Ultimate Effort Toughness to take 20 on a Toughness save with a Hero Point?

@Maggie Mui, would a version of the Well Informed Advantage work? It allows an Investigation check whenever you meet someone. Maybe swap out Expertise: Books for Investigation?

@Maggie Mui, would a version of the Well Informed Advantage work? It allows an Investigation check whenever you meet someone. Maybe swap out Expertise: Books for Investigation?

She's already got Well-Informed and a high investigation (being a detective and all). Unless you're saying I should take the advantage twice.

Let me ask the same question but without game mechanics: if we are traveling to worlds with mythical and/or well known fictional characters, does it make sense for Maggie to know something about them (making a check if needed, but the question is basically how much meta knowledge is it appropriate for her to have?).

For example, since Herakles is a well known figure of myth is it okay for her to recount the twelve labors? Or even describe his death in Ovid's Metamorphoses?

But at the same time, while she may have a sense of what it means mythologically to be a child of Zeus, she probably knows little about Rion Prince since he is from a more obscure twist of a spinoff of a mythical tale. Though would she have heard of Wonder Woman?

Or should she suddenly forget anything she's read if she runs into the real thing?

I'm trying to figure out appropriate boundaries. Reflecting it as a power is a way of setting those boundaries but it's more the issue of metagaming that I'm trying to ask about.

Herakles - Lion of Hellas wrote:

@ST - Will you be setting up a Discord for this group or will we just work here on the boards?

I'm not opposed to a Discord. I've never used one for a game like this before. What would we do there that we wouldn't do here?

Personally I'd rather have all game talk in one thread on the boards. While there's a benefit for more rapid chatting on Discord to brainstorm ideas, so far my experiences using Discord for game planning--some of you were present for one but not others--I did not find favorable in the end. It's harder to backtrack and follow conversations when discussing subject matter and that lends itself to misunderstanding. No offense intended to anyone here, just a general observation.

I guess my return question is do you only want it to cover myths and fictional characters in our universe, or would it extend to all fiction, comics, manga, etc?

Overall, for me, it might be helpful if someone could say, "This appears to be Dr. Doom piloting a Doom themed Jaegar." That wouldn't be a downside, and could be a cool niche for her.

I think overall for me someone who could interpret some things about encounters lets me get crazier with what I include.

GM SuperTumbler wrote:

Herakles - Lion of Hellas wrote:

@ST - Will you be setting up a Discord for this group or will we just work here on the boards?

I'm not opposed to a Discord. I've never used one for a game like this before. What would we do there that we wouldn't do here?

Personally I'd rather have all game talk in one thread on the boards. While there's a benefit for more rapid chatting on Discord to brainstorm ideas, so far my experiences using Discord for game planning--some of you were present for one but not others--I did not find favorable in the end. It's harder to backtrack and follow conversations when discussing subject matter and that lends itself to misunderstanding. No offense intended to anyone here, just a general observation.

Agree wholeheartedly, as I wasn't sure if one was going to be set up like last time. For me personally I prefer it all under one umbrella here on the boards - and like DQ said makes for much easier tracking where posts have happened.

I know that BD wants Herakles to be able to do crazy feats of strength, for example, so I want to make sure he is built in that direction.

Indeed - I've made his Power Lifting pretty high in comparison to his "walk about strength" and that it requires concentration to maintain - the whole oath to his father, then gritted teeth as he summons the strength of the gods. Might be more I can work into this tho' so open to inputs :)

He's not uber-tough though as he's been made mortal again. so can suffer injuries, has begun aging again etc. Not quite a glass cannon, but in the company of Sentry and the like he's close.

I guess my return question is do you only want it to cover myths and fictional characters in our universe, or would it extend to all fiction, comics, manga, etc?

Overall, for me, it might be helpful if someone could say, "This appears to be Dr. Doom piloting a Doom themed Jaegar." That wouldn't be a downside, and could be a cool niche for her.

I think overall for me someone who could interpret some things about encounters lets me get crazier with what I include.

I think if it's something that makes it fun for you, let's go for it. It is also appropriate to the character. (There's a whole scene in the source material where the city of London has become populated by fictional entities from the Victorian era, and the characters have to rely on their knowledge of books to figure out how to deal with them). Maggie has not literally read every book, but she speaks several languages and reads whatever she can get her hands on. This includes manga and comic books.

I just don't want to go crazy metagaming and don't plan to.

Updated Maggie's character sheet, adding some skill ranks in Expertise: Asian Pop Culture (if that's not broad enough, Pop Culture) and Benefit: Literary Fourthwalling. I'll check in with the GM to determine when it applies.

Starting to look through builds tonight.

@The Sentry Jubal, am I reading right that your lifting strength when you are all in is 6 million tons? I didn't do the math yet to check it.

If that is so, I'm good with it, but we need to crank Herakles' feats of strength up a bit. I want Sentry to be redonkulous strong, but Herk should be the strongest when he really focuses.

I love Maggie knowing things because it lets me just explain who people are and get us into action.

Everyone, if you are using herolab, send me a file if you haven't yet. I'll put them all together. That will make my life easier.

DQ, I know you don't use herolab, I'll build Maggie with your stats.

Will do!

@The Sentry Jubal, am I reading right that your lifting strength when you are all in is 6 million tons? I didn't do the math yet to check it.

If that is so, I'm good with it, but we need to crank Herakles' feats of strength up a bit. I want Sentry to be redonkulous strong, but Herk should be the strongest when he really focuses.

Sentry's base strength is currently 14 (400 tons) and with an array that adds Power-Lifting Strength to 38 (6.4 Gtons). I can dial it down, or remove the Power-Lifting bonus to let Herk be the Strongest Avenger. To be a team player.

Cheers

Everyone, if you are using herolab, send me a file if you haven't yet. I'll put them all together. That will make my life easier.

DQ, I know you don't use herolab, I'll build Maggie with your stats.

I can send you the Excel sheet if you at least want to see the math.

And sorry... I did actually make a version of her ages ago in HeroLab but I don't even have the file anymore.

GM SuperTumbler wrote:

@The Sentry Jubal, am I reading right that your lifting strength when you are all in is 6 million tons? I didn't do the math yet to check it.

If that is so, I'm good with it, but we need to crank Herakles' feats of strength up a bit. I want Sentry to be redonkulous strong, but Herk should be the strongest when he really focuses.

Sentry's base strength is currently 14 (400 tons) and with an array that adds Power-Lifting Strength to 38 (6.4 Gtons). I can dial it down, or remove the Power-Lifting bonus to let Herk be the Strongest Avenger. To be a team player.

Cheers

Don't tone it down. I was just making sure I was reading it right.

I like the idea of characters who can lift a mountain (or Manhattan)

That's what I was going for. According to Google, the heaviest man-made objects are
* Great Wall of China; 116 billion pounds.
* Three Gorges Dam (China); 20.8 billion pounds.
* Great Pyramid of Khufu (Egypt); 12 billion pounds.

6.4 Gtons = 12,800 billion pounds. Huzzah!

I really can tone it down

The funny thing is, I already had a discussion about the toning down and overlaps with ST ... it's a pretty classic story element to have non god-like characters (especially Kryptonians) who are more powerful than ancient gods in some ways.

To me it's kind of interesting that not one, but two Sons of Zeus would be totally outclassed by an alien.

,.. that is also why Jason's developmental direction is to become better at his lighting powers.

@Evindyl I read on line one version of your character had weather powers. If you want ideas for weather-control brick, here's an old character.

Cheers

ST - I don't have HeroLab, like DQ can send you a sheet with all my workings if needbe.

On Herk, remember he's been downgraded to mortality - originally I had a notion that his "godly" strength had been stripped off him and gifted to the Marvels/Shazam - hence why he was inherently weaker. Could up his Power-Lifting further but add Tiring Flaw or something to Extra-Effort meaning he has a further "strength" gear but at a cost?

Additionally given he defeated the invulnerable Nemean Lion by strangling it to death was considering some grab-based affliction or somesuch for Herk...

I do have a question: How do I insert an little character head shot photo to go along with my posts?

I do have a question: How do I insert an little character head shot photo to go along with my posts?

Sent you a PM Blue Beetle - hopefully gives you a steer on board/character Avatars. Will be in your Private Messages under "My Account"

The funny thing is, I already had a discussion about the toning down and overlaps with ST ... it's a pretty classic story element to have non god-like characters (especially Kryptonians) who are more powerful than ancient gods in some ways.

To me it's kind of interesting that not one, but two Sons of Zeus would be totally outclassed by an alien.

,.. that is also why Jason's developmental direction is to become better at his lighting powers.

Makes for an interesting dynamic. Herk likes to think of himself as Earth's Mightiest Mortal but not necessarily the mightiest lol. Leastways not when compared to Sentry at least.

@Sentry/Jubal: Out of interest did you consider any elements of Marvel's Sentry in your build? I'd have possibly had something like Kryptonite being able to activate The Void - probably make it connected to the Negative Zone also - "Negative Void" or some-such - Just spitballing as I love doing Amalgam stuff :)

@Sentry/Jubal: Out of interest did you consider any elements of Marvel's Sentry in your build? I'd have possibly had something like Kryptonite being able to activate The Void - probably make it connected to the Negative Zone also - "Negative Void" or some-such - Just spitballing as I love doing Amalgam stuff :)

Actually, no. I based it primarily on ST's old character with a dazzle more Superman. Don't know much about Sentry. Will Google-fu

Cheers

Wow. The Sentry is a plot device. He can literally do almost anything. I thought Superman was powerful. Don't know how to add any of those PL breaking powers...

The Sentry (Marvel) is a strange character who sort of doesn't fit well into Marvel stories that aren't mostly about him. I've enjoyed a few stories with him, like when he was part of the Dark Avengers, and sometimes his interactions with Hulk/Banner are fun because they both have that duality and supposedly Bob is good friends with Hulk, not necessarily Banner.

The reason I built my Sentry with that big central bucket of power points in the array was to be able to power stunt to some truly weird Kryptonian style things if it seemed cool.

I haven't gotten as far as I had hoped in getting things into Herolab today. I did get Herakles put together.

@BD, I took your strength out of the base ability and added an array to his powers with enhanced strength (10) and enhanced strength for lifting with the same restrictions we talked about. I made both Inherent.

I ended up with 21 extra points once I did that.

I would boost his fighting (maybe Fighting 7 and increase Strength to 13? Or a 10/10 split?)

I would boost hit Fortitude. I like him having a crappy Will save. Herk never seems to resist will effects in any version of the character.

Also gives you some points to buy a bow and some special arrows.

Herakles-Lion of Hellas - PL 10

Strength 10, Stamina 7, Agility 3, Dexterity 2, Fighting 5, Intellect 0, Awareness 1, Presence 4

Advantages
All-out Attack, Attractive, Benefit, Status: God of Olympus, Benefit, Wealth 2 (independently wealthy), Chokehold, Connected, Defensive Attack, Diehard, Extraordinary Effort, Fast Grab, Fearless, Great Endurance, Improved Critical: Unarmed, Improved Grab, Improved Hold, Improved Trip, Improvised Weapon, Interpose, Languages 3, Leadership, Power Attack, Seize Initiative, Skill Mastery: Athletics, Takedown, Taunt, Ultimate Effort: Strength

Skills
Acrobatics 7 (+10), Athletics 10 (+20), Deception 4 (+8), Expertise: Ancient mythology 15 (+15), Expertise: History 10 (+10), Expertise: Performance Lyre 4 (+4), Expertise: Religion 4 (+4), Insight 4 (+5), Intimidation 8 (+12), Perception 4 (+5), Persuasion 8 (+12), Ranged Combat: Bow 8 (+10), Stealth 6 (+9)

Powers
Body of a Bronzed (Demi)god (Advantages: Attractive; Feature: Extremely Muscular Physique)
Bracers of Victory (Removable (indestructible))
Deflect: Deflect 10
Shockwave: Burst Area Affliction 10 (Alternate; 1st degree: Dazed and Vulnerable, 2nd degree: Stunned and Prone, Resisted by: Dodge, Overcome by Fortitude, DC 20; Burst Area: 30 feet radius sphere, DC 20, Extra Condition; Limited: Targets on the ground, Limited Degree)
Cretan Bull-Leaping: Leaping 2 (training, Leap 30 feet at 8 miles/hour; Acrobatics Check Required)
Legendary Might
Enhanced Ability: Enhanced Strength 10 (+10 STR; Innate)
Legendary Feats of Strength: Enhanced Strength 40 (+40 STR; Innate; Distracting, Limited to Lifting)
Master of Pankration (Advantages: All-out Attack, Chokehold, Defensive Attack, Fast Grab, Improved Critical, Improved Grab, Improved Hold, Improved Trip, Power Attack)
Mortal Demigod: Feature 1 (divine)
Nursed by Hera: Protection 4 (divine, +4 Toughness)
Powerful Sprinter: Speed 1 (divine, Speed: 4 miles/hour, 60 feet/round)

Offense
Initiative +3
Grab, +5 (DC Spec 20)
Shockwave: Burst Area Affliction 10 (DC Fort/Will 20)
Throw, +2 (DC 25)
Unarmed, +5 (DC 25)

Languages
Ancient Greek, English, Greek, Latin

Defense
Dodge 7, Parry 9, Fortitude 11, Toughness 11, Will 5

Power Points
Abilities 44 + Powers 52 + Advantages 19 + Skills 23 (92 ranks) + Defenses 16 = 154

The reason I built my Sentry with that big central bucket of power points in the array was to be able to power stunt to some truly weird Kryptonian style things if it seemed cool.

Cool. My array is only 24 points but could do some cool things within PL.

This version of Herakles can lift 25.6 gigatons, though he has to be distracted to do it. This makes him stronger than The Sentry for pure lifting.

Part of why I care about this is just my 8 year old self reading the Handbook of the Marvel Universe and comparing stats of the heavy hitters, but some of it is me wanting to have a few encounters where this sort of strength will matter.

Blue Beetle, I combined your build with the build from DC Adventures just to see what I could come up with. Take a look. It is currently 12 points over, but The Bug costs 13, so you are actually 1 under. I didn't want to delete the vehicle in case it comes up at some point.

I moved some things around so that your offensive abilities are hitting the power level caps. Will and Fortitude are still a little low.

Feel free to ignore my changes or use what you like. I did have to lose the improved critical, which we might want to put back. I got rid of a couple of your Expertises because they are covered by other skills.

Blue Beetle (Ted Kord) - PL 10

Strength 3, Stamina 3, Agility 6, Dexterity 6, Fighting 0, Intellect 7, Awareness 4, Presence 2

Advantages
Agile Feint, Benefit, Wealth 3 (millionare), Contacts, Defensive Roll 4, Equipment 13, Evasion, Improved Initiative, Inventor, Luck 3, Move-by Action, Power Attack, Redirect, Uncanny Dodge

Skills
Acrobatics 12 (+18), Athletics 12 (+15), Close Combat: Unarmed 8 (+8), Deception 8 (+10), Expertise: Business and Finance 8 (+15), Expertise: Espionage 8 (+15), Expertise: Psychology 8 (+15), Expertise: Science 6 (+13), Insight 9 (+13), Intimidation 12 (+14), Investigation 8 (+15), Perception 12 (+16), Persuasion 12 (+14), Ranged Combat: BB Gun 5 (+11), Stealth 8 (+14), Technology 12 (+19), Treatment 8 (+15), Vehicles 8 (+14)

Powers
BB Goggles (Removable)
Commlink (Removable)
Feature: Feature 1
Machine Language: Comprehend 2 (Machines / Electronics)
Senses: Senses 5 (Analytical (Type): Visual, Darkvision, Microscopic Vision 1: dust-size)
BB Gun (Easily Removable)
Air Burst: Cone Area Move Object 3 (400 lbs.; Cone Area: 60 feet cone, DC 13; Custom: Instant Duration, Diminished Range 3, Limited Direction: Straight Away)
Air Hammer: Blast 8 (DC 23)
Blinding Strobe: Cone Area Dazzle 8 (Affects Sense: Sight, Resisted by: Fortitude, DC 18; Cone Area: 60 feet cone, DC 18; Reduced Range: close)
Strike: Strength-based Damage 7 (DC 25)

Equipment
Other Equipment 5, The Bug

Offense
Initiative +10
Air Burst: Cone Area Move Object 3 (DC 13)
Air Hammer: Blast 8, +11 (DC 23)
Blinding Strobe: Cone Area Dazzle 8 (DC Fort 18)
Grab, +0 (DC Spec 13)
Strike: Strength-based Damage 7, +0 (DC 25)
Throw, +6 (DC 18)
Unarmed, +8 (DC 18)

Complications
Blue and Gold: Blue Beetle is best friends with Booster Gold, and their shared misadventures and sense of humor are notorious.
Legacy: After he was injured saving Ted Kord’s life, the dying wish of the first Blue Beetle (Dan Garrett) was that Kord carry on and continue his battle against evil. Kord’s adventuring as the Blue Beetle is a never-ending effort to live up to the name
and wishes of his predecessor.

Languages
English

Defense
Dodge 13, Parry 13, Fortitude 7, Toughness 7/3, Will 8

Power Points
Abilities 62 + Powers 24 + Advantages 32 + Skills 41 (164 ranks) + Defenses 28 = 187

Validation: Too many PP spent (187, max 175)

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GM SuperTumbler wrote:

Everyone, if you are using herolab, send me a file if you haven't yet. I'll put them all together. That will make my life easier.

DQ, I know you don't use herolab, I'll build Maggie with your stats.

I can send you the Excel sheet if you at least want to see the math.

And sorry... I did actually make a version of her ages ago in HeroLab but I don't even have the file anymore.

Yes, please send me a copy. I'm missing something trying to put her together in Herolab.

I have everyone but Sentry and Spider-Woman in my Herolab portfolio. Do you two have .por files? I can't remember.

Other than that, I'm pretty close to ready to go.

If we were playing this game live, I'd run a solo overture adventure to bring each character into the setting, but since that would take forever in PbP, you can write your own introduction.

Your character should be doing something fairly normal (for them). Could be fighting super villains, investigating the Mafia, fighting Hydra, or whatever is your jam.

Hydra might be building a portal to other worlds where they won WW2.
Osborne (or another villain) might be building a portal to explore distant dimensions or outer space.

If you would prefer a less active entry, you could be pulled into the campaign by something more like an alien abduction. You are taken in your sleep.

You can go ahead and post those introductions in Gameplay. I think we all know who our characters are enough to get started.

I just worked out the set up for the first arc of the story, and I am very excited.

I have everyone but Sentry and Spider-Woman in my Herolab portfolio. Do you two have .por files? I can't remember.

Nope. No Herolab for Sentry.

And, Sentry will be taken from storage to start the game.

Sentry will be taken from storage to start the game.

Or... I could write a warehouseman discovering the Sentry performing an inventory.

@GM SuperTumbler, Thanks for the Blue Beetle build. I will look at it more carefully tonight. Thanks again.

The Sentry. wrote:

Sentry will be taken from storage to start the game.

Or... I could write a warehouseman discovering the Sentry performing an inventory.

@Sentry: Could be some supervillainous types are stealing from the same facility... As they engage security his storage tube is accidentally compromised??

Just have this cool mental image of a guard about to be dispatched or warehouseman being held hostage and from the cryo-mist Sentry steps...

'course they could be there to steal Subject 23...

This version of Herakles can lift 25.6 gigatons, though he has to be distracted to do it. This makes him stronger than The Sentry for pure lifting.

Part of why I care about this is just my 8 year old self reading the Handbook of the Marvel Universe and comparing stats of the heavy hitters, but some of it is me wanting to have a few encounters where this sort of strength will matter.

By Pan's hairy haunch I love it!

Yeah I was the same - checking out who was in the 100 tonne class of lifting.

I haven't gotten as far as I had hoped in getting things into Herolab today. I did get Herakles put together.

@BD, I took your strength out of the base ability and added an array to his powers with enhanced strength (10) and enhanced strength for lifting with the same restrictions we talked about. I made both Inherent.

I ended up with 21 extra points once I did that.

I would boost his fighting (maybe Fighting 7 and increase Strength to 13? Or a 10/10 split?)

I would boost hit Fortitude. I like him having a crappy Will save. Herk never seems to resist will effects in any version of the character.

Also gives you some points to buy a bow and some special arrows.

Sounds a plan - only query I have is if I up Fighting to 7 or 10 then I'll need to reduce Herak's Fighting Skills? Am I right in thinking PL 10 means an attack rank and damage can't total more than 20 (PL10 x2)?? So regardless of how I split it his attack and (strength) damage will hit that 20 threshold...

That is true. Attack and Damage total 20. I was thinking if you raised your overall Fighting it would reflect being able to use any melee weapon well to reflect his millennia of experience. Might be useful if you come across some cool weapons to use for a minute.

Ok, folks, I think I am ready to go. Or at least ready to start. Turns out, when you give yourself the omniverse to work in, you can go down infinite research rabbit holes.

Also, turns out my whole concept for what is going on in the campaign has already been done IN BOTH DC AND MARVEL! Boy, what a hack I am, apparently :)

Still, I hope we can have a lot of fun. This is certainly the most ambitious campaign concept I've ever tried to run.

I know some folks are still finalizing builds and also that some are dealing with some real life problems. Don't feel pressure, just get in while you can.

I have only heard from Spider-Woman once, so I'm a little concerned about that. But I did want a spider verse character if possible, so I'll hold out hope.

We know Blue Beetle is new to PbP on these boards, so offer some grace and help there where you can.

I'll post a campaign intro. If you could post what your character has been doing and how they come to pass through some sort of portal/gate/step into a teleportation pod/ or whatever way is appropriate to your story, that would be perfect. If you need help, feel free to ask.

The inciting incident and first arc is related to snake cults/teams. Hydra (Marvel), Kobra (DC), Cobra (GI Joe), snake cultists, and etc.

Super excited for this one! Will try and get Herak's build finalised and get up an intro post (already semi-written it in my minds eye). Nuff' Said!

Deeply sorry that it took this long to finally post something here. Been distracted and found it difficult to get into the right mindset to write or do much of anything. Still need to write up the exact details of Spider-Gwen’s origin and backstory but I should have that done by tomorrow. Sneak peek is that I’m going with the idea of what if the Gwen Stacy from the Amazing Spider-Man duology got bitten by the spider. Hope that’s an interesting take. Build is up on the Alias page if anyone wants to take a look at it.

If anyone has questions feel free to ask.