DM Delmoth's Planescape

Game Master Delmoth

Wouldn't be the first time I've been in a multi-wizard party. The character does look fun.

I do think Oracle is one of those classes you could probably build an entire party out of without too much overlap too, if it comes to it.

Rinika can click an IH wand too. And she has a wand of CLW (I think from Akrynn?) for what it's worth. But a healer she is not.

Especially with prestige classes mixed in :3

Also, Nik has the wand of IH. I try not to rely on it too much, but we might want to use that team budget for a new wand at some point :3

Though... actually... scrolls are cheaper until someone gets craft wand...

Ok so consensus seems to be that Mrs. Bloodrive and Dragoncat's submissions were acceptable. I'm not going to consider DiamonDust since they withdrew interest. I'll send them a PM in a little bit to allow of objections.

I will ask them to change their submission since Nik has filled up the "from Golarion" quoata.

Look good to me!

I like this plan ^^

I'm cool with that.

I won't be able to make any substantial posts until Wednesday evening.

Hello there, the DM Delmoth just summoned me n.n

Looks like there's a lot of things going on here, way more than what I expected o.o

Anyways, I must first make a pc, will take some time since I'm a little rusty with 1e.

One question, should I build the PC (Ling) that I mentioned on the recruitment thread or make a new one?

Welcome!

Personally I say play whatever your heart desires, we've got most of the basics covered.

Rinika does the sneaky, and other oracle things, Jek and Conor (who may or may not get to ride Jek to battle some day) are melee. Nik does the arcane with ablative shambler meat shields.

I guess dedicated range and/or healing is a little weakness, but we've got scrolls and wands and whatnot and Nik is itching to fireball something it seems like, so another melee is fine and another full caster is ALWAYS welcome :)

Since I seem to have noticed before DM_Delmoth:

I will ask them to change their submission since Nik has filled up the "from Golarion" quoata quota.

Also, welcome ^_^

Also, Rinika has our thiefy things pretty well covered, Nik is a wizard that doesn't do much illusory or enchantment magic (though he could do those if he really wanted), and Conor and Jek punch things in the face really hard :3

Granted, we'll always have a hard time punching things in the face to death, so that's always a good choice.

Also, Nik doesn't heal as often as everyone would like, so that's a thing too :3
(Though he definitely has healing covered for our half-undead teammate)
If you like healing and plan to use Channel Positive Energy, Rinika would appreciate the Selective Channel feat :3

Also, especially since Delmoth won't make any "substantial posts" until Wednesday, I'm guessing that there'll be enough time before we get to Crux for you to be from whatever prime-material world we're on right now; possibly ghost-hunting? :3

edit: Build Rules (for 1st level PCs)

Welcome aboard! I'll echo what Conor said, play what you want. Ling sounded like a cool concept, so if that's what you're feeling for planescape, go for it.

Rinika is an oracle, but she is frankly a terrible oracle and is trying very hard to be a skillmonkey/face rogue instead, to middling success. Take a look over my sheet if you're concerned about stepping on toes from an oracle perspective, but chances are you won't be stepping on any.

There are character build details on the campaign info tab, we're using automatic bonus progression, and we're 7th level.

oh yeah, campaign tab has things.

Doesn't seem to have the custom races mentioned here, though.

Which reminds me, Rinika is a custom race :3

edit: I forgot to mention Automatic Bonus Progression!
Just look up on this table here to see what you get automatically.
We get those things isntead of about half our wealth by level; also, magic weapons/armors don't get the +1-5, magic stat boosting items don't exist (though the 2nd level spells are still there), and those things like amulet of Natural Armor and Ring of Protection are also gone.

TL;DR: the things you get from that table only come from there and we get half wealth. (though double check with DM_Delmoth exactly what you can get)

edit: anyone else read Ward (the sequel to Worm)? Lovelost is a supervillain, and hearing the wraith made me think of her :3
warning: Wildbow's web serials/books are incredibly grimdark. They make Blade Runner look like Disney Land, ok? I suppose none of them have completely downer endings yet, so there's that.

You can make Ling, but they can't be from Golarion or Toril. I really want to emphasize diversity of origin and Nik and Conor are both from those worlds respectively. You can't really be from the current prime world the party is traipsing around in, for reasons, but you can be descended from them. I will say they don't really have the same flavor but if you're interested in that route we can work on it.

I will ask them to change their submission since Nik has filled up the "from Golarion" quoata.

Y'know I guess I'd always kind of figured Rinika was from the catfolk tribes on Garund on Golarion, but I'm not sure I ever explicitly said that. They're also isolationist enough and she was young enough when she was abducted that she probably wouldn't even know exactly where she was from, nor would it really matter. If you asked her, I'm sure she'd tell you she doesn't really care either.

bluff: 1d20 + 12 ⇒ (1) + 12 = 13

And here I always thought she was a khajiit.

And here I always thought she was a khajiit.

Well until we actually take a reading, I suppose there's a chance it could be either.

I've always been a little weirded out by the khajit's representation as basically a tailed human with a full-on cat head. I tend to prefer something a little more blended, although not to the point of anime girl with ears and tail.

In any case, Rinika has wares your coins if you have coin.

I don't think we've ever really discussed this before, but do y'all have an idea of who you'd cast as your characters if this was a movie or show?

Well Schrödinger probably mucked up whatever energies the test would use to determine that so I guess we'll never know.

Never really thought about it xD

Also, poop. Exactly 17 on that save. If only Nik had his 8th level, it would've been DC 18 xD
That reminds me
@Conor: if you ever want to prep Eagle's Splendor before we get to pick a second mental stat to buff, Nik could use +2 to his command undead DC :3

I've always been a little weirded out by the khajit's representation as basically a tailed human with a full-on cat head. I tend to prefer something a little more blended, although not to the point of anime girl with ears and tail.

So, not you? :D

@Conor: if you ever want to prep Eagle's Splendor before we get to pick a second mental stat to buff, Nik could use +2 to his command undead DC :3

Noted.

Can't help but notice that the weapon attument part of ABP doesn't seem to call out at any point that our weapons are magic, which might be relevant right about now ... :)

If you attuned to a weapon it is magical for purposes of DR. If you attune up to +3, I forget where you're at, it counts as silver or cold iron, etc.

Ah, good. I missed that in there. Good ... Good.

we're still at +1, but we do have magic, not just masterwork ^_^

Cool, I think a could try to build an occult caster of sorts or maybe a aether kinetcist from the Astral plane, I know that the class as such isn't that strong but if most areas are already covered a ranged damage dealer can help n.n

Sounds fun, but seriously if you want to make your oracle that's totally cool as well.

Worth thinking about is this campaign is converted AD&D and some of the fights involve a lot of bad guys. We've had to "Brave Sir Robin" run away a number of times so far, so crowd control or AOE damage could be a plus, Jek can charge through most single targets with his ludicrous charging Large Lance (need to find a way to get him Lead Blades, for funsies).

I have a feeling I'll be memorizing a few Lesser Restorations next time we sleep, get yer wallets out! I'll only charge 50 gold a casting ;)

Lesser restoration doesn't restore permanent ability drain.
We'll need something more expensive.

Nik wasn't kidding, we don't want to get touched.

@Ms. Bloodrive: if that's what you want to do, I'm sure it'll be great xD
But don't worry too much about fitting in mechanically :3

Edit: though if you made a full caster that knew that 4th level restoration spell, Nik has been hoarding some diamond dust and we'd only need 100gp of it per restoration...

@GM: does diamond dust count as gems for my feat that lets me use any gems for material components? :3

Eh sure. What is diamond dust but lots of really tiny diamonds?

Right? :D

Also:
Muwahahah!
Nik can pretend he's helping the sick or something while buying shambler manufacturing fuel...

Oh yeah, that's right. Crap.

Hey, I was looking for inspiration and find This Race I can't however find how many points it has x.x

well, I'm sure you can find most or all of its racial traits in the custom race builder tables somewhere ^^;

I think there's something on pfsrd.com, but I can't go look right now...

After coming back and looking more closely, I realized that Squoles are a 3pp race.
I also found the page for race building

Boneless can be simulated with two +2 skill buys for 4RP
Specialized ability scores costs 1RP
Resistence is 1RP (though that'd be 5 instead of half character level)
Blindsense 30' is 4RP (not even the full 40', and not the much sexier blindsight)
And we're already at 10 RP.
I'm not sure what humanoid ooze should be worth, but it's similar to the plant type. You don't have 10RP left over to be a plant, but maybe a custom thing can be used to include blindness instead of low-light vision and immunity to mind-affecting effects. That might bring it down to 5RP or below. Maybe.
This Squole race is probably worth 20+RP as is, just 'cause blindsight is so sexy.

Alternatively, if you mostly wanted to be blind and don't mind making a full oracle to get that blindsense at level 10, Clouded Vision might be a good curse and you could do other things with your race :3
Bonus points: you'd eventually get blindsight (though waiting until 15th level for only 15' instead of the original Squole's 40' from 1st...)

But a humanoid ooze is so cool! I, for one, don't care if the race is a few RP over myself.

A plant-person would also be cool. <3 Leshys xD

Also, maybe DM_Delmoth would be willing to figure something out regarding humanoid oozes and how many RP they should be xD
Also blindness... also blindsight... also that CMD/CMB thing might be worth some thought...

Maybe a nerfed Squole would work?

For the record, I wouldn't mind having a teammate with blindsight and all the rest :3
But I also don't want to accidentally break all our future adventures xD

Oof that's way over the 15 RP limit. I'll double check Nik's math when I get some time. If the goal is just to be an ooze in flavor, there's always oozemorph.

Can someone remind me what 4 con drain does to me, its been almost 4 years since I've had ability drain.

Probably easier than reading the rules and calculating my HP loss wrong.

Unlike damage ability drain actually reduces your con. So any stat based off of it is reduced accordingly. It doesn't heal without magic either.

Ok, so I'm back to 10 con then, so -2 per level.

And crap, this thing is probably immune to crits

Ouch, 5K plus to get this fixed. Guess those bracers are off the table for quite a bit then.

no 100gp will remove ability drain from one stat. Since it's only going to CON drain us, that's only 100gp per person. Plus casting fees x.x
I suppose it might be as much as 4*7*25 + 100 for scrolls...
800 each is still less than 5k, though :3

Oh, I was guessing I needed a greater restoration.

Thats much more reasonable!

(I totally misread my app about the spells. Too many screaming kids running around, good thing you folks actually know how to play this game)

Definitely worth getting a handful of 100gp resto scrolls. There's also this.

If we're lucky, Veridis will have mercy on our plight ^^

He seemed rather generous last time, both with our time we spent investigating and with payment for greensteel.

Definitely worth getting a handful of 100gp resto scrolls. There's also this.

Woah, that essentially demotes drain to damage if someone has the heal skill o.o

If we're lucky, Veridis will have mercy on our plight ^^

He seemed rather generous last time, both with our time we spent investigating and with payment for greensteel.

Rinika wrote:

Definitely worth getting a handful of 100gp resto scrolls. There's also this.

Woah, that essentially demotes drain to damage if someone has the heal skill o.o

Yep, it's 3000 gp of awesome.

....does anyone have the Heal skill?

If not, @Ms. Bloodrive is that something that your character might reasonably be skilled in? Helpful, but certainly not a requirement.

Squole is too powerful to be used, sorry to nix it but I'm willing to entertain a para-elemental genasi of the ooze variety. That is one of your ancestors could have been one and had a human fetish or whatever.

The result would be somewhere between an Oread and an Udine.

+2 Dex, +2 Con, –2 Int

Native Outsider type

Medium size

Normal Speed: 30ft

Darkvision up to 60 feet.

Acid Breath: Breath weapon that is a 5-foot cone of acidic water usable once per day. The breath deals 1d8 points of acid damage per two character levels (maximum 5d8). A Reflex saving throw (DC 10 + 1/2 level + Constitution modifier) halves the damage.

Slippery: +2 racial bonus on Acrobatics and Escape Artist skill checks.

Energy Resistance: Acid resistance 5.

Water and Earth Affinity: sorcerers with the elemental (water or earth) bloodline treat their Charisma score as 2 points higher for all sorcerer spells and class abilities. clerics with the Water or earth domain cast their domain powers and spells at +1 caster level.

Languages: Common, Aquan, and Terran. High Intelligence scores can choose from the following: Auran, Dwarven, Elven, Gnome, Halfling, Ignan.

Reasonable alternate abilities from Undines or Oreads will be considered.

As mentioned, oozemorph, custom race with blindsense, that one oracle curse, and probably a bunch of other stuff are all options too ^^
(if you liked the not needing to sleep thing, for example, being a plant would work, haha)

If Conor does bite it, I do have a theologian lightning cleric mostly fleshed out. Could have handed this wraith an empowered lightning bolt at +3 CL with him, might have been a handy start.

And I could cast my own darned restoration afterwards :)

Added the following to my FAQ

Can Mara cast see invisibility from a scroll and then make it permanent with a permanency spell?

Yes, but the caster level to dispel is the caster level of the scroll not the permanency spell.

Makes sense. Also, Greater Dispel never seems as sexy and cruel as when the target has a bunch of permanency'd buffs.

Lol

DM_delmoth will remember this.