
lynora |

Got a neat idea for a water bender. Definitely need to bend at least two rules though...
>.>
<.<
Shoot me a PM. I'm bending rules right and left for Morrivan (apparently the second half of her gestalt is rules bender :P )so you probably can do what you want.

"Ace" |

Even if its "destroyed" its only that way for the duration of the SIM.
At least, that was my understanding, as much like damage to oneself, damage to personal magic items would go away after a SIM ends.

GM Fireclaw |

Prot from Cold, I absorb all the damage. So you only deal 19 points of damage from Magic Missiles?
Just as a reminder for this - Protection from Energy has limited use - 120 points absorbed maximum, so it may be in Ace's favour to attempt the reflex save so that he has more ability to absorb damage.
Just thought I'd point that out, unless Ace wants to go for the intimidation factor of not bothering to dodge.

lynora |

♣♠Magic♦♥ wrote:Depending on who you mean by 'us', I may disagree. :DDamiani wrote:David.De'Foul wrote:Just a joke man, well mostly a jokeI don't get your humour, at all. :)That's OK.
None of us get yours either.
;P
Ain't none of us here that don't have a few voices in our heads...;P

"Ace" |

Can I still save? I didn't think I was able to if the spell absorbs the damage.

GM Fireclaw |

Yup - I don't see any reason why you couldn't make a reflex save to reduce the amount the spell needs to absorb.

lynora |

And there off, Ace plays the Sunder Gambit of Dave's prized Robe,
** spoiler omitted **
Wile Dave try's to ice popsicle Ace.
Looks like we have a real fight on our hands.** spoiler omitted **
The query you made of Dave was already handled a long time ago.

David.De'Foul |

Unless I'm misreading, the robe has a HP of 1-2, and a hardness of zero. (Given that it's made of Cloth, which has a hardness of 0 and 2hp/inch)
Objects reduced to 0 HP are destroyed, not merely broken.
or one it's reinforced, made of silk weave, and has hardness I think 5, and HP 20, though I thought magic items had an increased HP based on caster level or something,
For two, Via RAW I don't think that's the case, via RAI I obviously is and I won't argue further on this point,
Damiani |

Damiani wrote:Ain't none of us here that don't have a few voices in our heads...;P♣♠Magic♦♥ wrote:Depending on who you mean by 'us', I may disagree. :DDamiani wrote:David.De'Foul wrote:Just a joke man, well mostly a jokeI don't get your humour, at all. :)That's OK.
None of us get yours either.
;P
"We" agree.

icehawk333 |

FireclawDrake wrote:Unless I'm misreading, the robe has a HP of 1-2, and a hardness of zero. (Given that it's made of Cloth, which has a hardness of 0 and 2hp/inch)
Objects reduced to 0 HP are destroyed, not merely broken.
or one it's reinforced, made of silk weave, and has hardness I think 5, and HP 20, though I thought magic items had an increased HP based on caster level or something,
For two, Via RAW I don't think that's the case, via RAI I obviously is and I won't argue further on this point,
Go read the sunder rules. It's there.

"Ace" |

Um,
IF David's robes are destroyed, they will be fine once the SIM ends, right?
Cuz uh, despite being a bit of a jerk, and his anger towards David, neither Ace nor myself wants to actually destroy his magic item permanently.
Obviously, it could just be repaired, but the intent was it would be fine once the SIM ended.

icehawk333 |

It uses the terms "break" and "smash" I already showed you the "broken" condition and it's cloth, and how do you "smash" cloth, :P
If your attack is successful, you deal damage to the item normally. Damage that exceeds the object's Hardness is subtracted from its hit points. If an object has equal to or less than half its total hit points remaining, it gains the broken condition. If the damage you deal would reduce the object to less than 0 hit points, you can choose to destroy it. If you do not choose to destroy it, the object is left with only 1 hit point and the broken condition.

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It seems odd to me that a magic item would be so fragile despite being intended to be worn in combat. That is a lot of work, effort, and resources to put in danger and leave so easily destroyed.
after this fight, perhaps during engendering class, Dave will be sowing metal thread into the cloth, adamanite if allowed, mirhril if not

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Lord Foul II wrote:It uses the terms "break" and "smash" I already showed you the "broken" condition and it's cloth, and how do you "smash" cloth, :PIf your attack is successful, you deal damage to the item normally. Damage that exceeds the object's Hardness is subtracted from its hit points. If an object has equal to or less than half its total hit points remaining, it gains the broken condition. If the damage you deal would reduce the object to less than 0 hit points, you can choose to destroy it. If you do not choose to destroy it, the object is left with only 1 hit point and the broken condition.
sorry, did not see that somehow, so then, ace you leave it with 1 hp?

"Ace" |

Like to wait for an official ruling as to whether or not your robes will be fine once the SIM ends.
If they will be, I'll destroy them. If not, I will leave them broken instead.

Damiani |

paizo.com - Rules Questions: Sundering magic items
may help
Failed your Will Save against your own Suggestion, did you? Tsk tsk!

Vickory West |

No point in sundering an item that remains active till destroyed unless you intend to destroy it.
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Also, anyone consider making a cloak out of chainmail? That would be cool.
Oh and I want to make it out of real-world mithral, aka, aircraft aluminum.
Now if only I can find a good source of wire made from aircraft aluminum, I mean mithral. :)

Damiani |

Like to wait for an official ruling as to whether or not your robes will be fine once the SIM ends.
If they will be, I'll destroy them. If not, I will leave them broken instead.
Why would any OOC information stop your IC actions?
People constantly insist on pausing, when it's a moot point. :) Gold isn't an issue in this game, nor, apparently, time.
Press on, I say!
Plus, Foul just brought up an interesting point.

Damiani |

Did Kodjack sit by anyone specific?
If no, is there anyone he wouldn't sit near specifically?
Hehehe..
Harry Potter looking 'wizards' are right out.
Manly, or beastly women, perhaps more likely-- with furs, and armor/weapons.
Dunno about the Illithid kid though-- he's always shunned. Then there's the 'worse off buggers'.
They sure didn't pick their parents right, did they... boo.

Damiani |

Hm.
Thought - should male/female Firebirds be referred to as cock/hen? Or just stick with standard humanoid parlance since that's what we've always been doing?
I'm making <censored> up here, so -- unless there's a hand book, from the hip, yo!
Lemme edit my last post, give you something to roll. :)

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Agarthian Storyteller wrote:Shoot me a PM. I'm bending rules right and left for Morrivan (apparently the second half of her gestalt is rules bender :P )so you probably can do what you want.Got a neat idea for a water bender. Definitely need to bend at least two rules though...
>.>
<.<
Consider it shot. :)

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*rolls eyes*

lynora |

Like to wait for an official ruling as to whether or not your robes will be fine once the SIM ends.
If they will be, I'll destroy them. If not, I will leave them broken instead.
I'm fine with damage to items being temporary. Effectively the magic of the robes is suppressed while Dave is in the SIM, mimicking the effect of the robe being sundered, but this isn't a real environment and none of the damage is real either.

lynora |

Hm.
Thought - should male/female Firebirds be referred to as cock/hen? Or just stick with standard humanoid parlance since that's what we've always been doing?
Normally standard humanoid parlance. Cock/hen is considered extremely vulgar.
Edit: So only use if you're trying to insult them. Good way for one firebird to incite another to duel them.

OrdernChaos |
Did Kodjack sit by anyone specific?
If no, is there anyone he wouldn't sit near specifically?
Nope, didn't sit by anyone specific, and no one that he'd really avoid, as far as I know. Probably anyone that's obviously a caster, dressed in robes and holding a staff and all that. Kind of picky about those kinds of people. Other than that, no one he'd avoid. He didn't really look where he sat, anyway; he was only looking for an empty seat.

"Ace" |

If I can beat the epic skill check DC of 80 to defeat David's illusion, can I see through it, despite not being epic level?