GM-Foxy's Hell's Rebels (Inactive)

Game Master Foxy Quickpaw

Hell's Rebels Adventure Path
Current Date: Moonday, 14th of Rova, 4715AR
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Kitsune Game Master

That's why I offer an above average fixed value as an alternative, because I hate to see good character go down the drain because of bad rolls.


Male Human Wizard 1, Init +3; Perception +7 (+5 if no Peeko); 16/16 HP, 13 AC 13 Touch 10 FF; Fort +2, Ref +3, Will +3, Splintered Spear 7/7

It is much appreciated :)


CN Female Half-Elf Bard 2 | HP 17/17 | AC 16, T 13, FF 13 | F 3, R 7, W 3 ( +2 vs. Enchantment, +4 vs. Charm/Compulsion+4 vs. Sonic, Language Dependent, and BP effects.) | Init +2 | Per +7 (Low-Light Vision), BP Rounds Used: 11/11

I'd rather take Half+1. Will adjust. Thanks.

Liberty's Edge

4/4 Inspiration, 2/2 Luck, Combat Stamina 4/4. Buff/Debuffs: none Investigator-Sleuth 4, 28/28 HP, Init +6 (+4 if 0 luck left), Percep+7 (+8 vs traps), 21 AC 13 Touch 18 Flat, 19 CMD, Fort +3 (+5 vs poisons), Ref +9 (+10 vs traps), Will +6

Ugh... Well know I just rolled max, so I don't want to miss out on that.... Well that would only be 3 HP. blah. Decision.

Okay, I'll subtract down to 5 HP for this level and take 1/2 + 1.


Kitsune Game Master
Saul Gibson wrote:

Ugh... Well know I just rolled max, so I don't want to miss out on that.... Well that would only be 3 HP. blah. Decision.

Okay, I'll subtract down to 5 HP for this level and take 1/2 + 1.

I did a test-roll on your 18d8. It had three 1s in the next four levels. You made a good decision.


Kitsune Game Master

And there we are with all sitting in the coffeeshop again.

Jhen got no job anymore, so it is better than sitting at home staring angrily at the wall. Meliandri has nothing to do but entertaining herself and Fhingle lives here anyway.

But Saul has a shop to run and I have no real clue what Salonius did to fill his day with, but I guess he wasn't sitting idly on his behind.

Saul also put posters out for customers. I know the adventure economy makes everything but adventuring a cheap business. But there is no dungeon to crawl to do and no damsel in distress to save. The only thing that will move this adventure on is when you live your life in the city and stumble over the things that go wrong and call for an intervention by some rebels.


Male Human Wizard 1, Init +3; Perception +7 (+5 if no Peeko); 16/16 HP, 13 AC 13 Touch 10 FF; Fort +2, Ref +3, Will +3, Splintered Spear 7/7

Salonius is essentially a grad student botanist, working on a long term dissertation which is something to do with fruit tree hybridization with the incorporation of magic. He normally attends a few of hours of magical lectures a day, though it should not be too big a deal for him to skip as botany is his real specialty. I imagine he spent the rest of his time in the library as a rule - he read and wrote philosophy while in the library mostly to.

Liberty's Edge

4/4 Inspiration, 2/2 Luck, Combat Stamina 4/4. Buff/Debuffs: none Investigator-Sleuth 4, 28/28 HP, Init +6 (+4 if 0 luck left), Percep+7 (+8 vs traps), 21 AC 13 Touch 18 Flat, 19 CMD, Fort +3 (+5 vs poisons), Ref +9 (+10 vs traps), Will +6

So our idea about exploring the sewers. Is that even possible? Or should I have the Tengi build a grate over the sewer entrance.

I think we are all still trying to figure out how this game is supposed to run, so poking and prodding is appreciated.

Salonius, could you build into the spreadsheet a running tab of weekly expenses?


Male Human Wizard 1, Init +3; Perception +7 (+5 if no Peeko); 16/16 HP, 13 AC 13 Touch 10 FF; Fort +2, Ref +3, Will +3, Splintered Spear 7/7

Sure, I will just stick it off to the side. So group expenses essentially?


Kitsune Game Master
Saul wrote:
So our idea about exploring the sewers. Is that even possible?

With grandmaster foxy everything is possible ;)

I already checked what the adventure has to offer in that regard. And it is not much, but enough to come up with something plausible. And disappointing, if someone hoped for a dungeon crawl.

Liberty's Edge

4/4 Inspiration, 2/2 Luck, Combat Stamina 4/4. Buff/Debuffs: none Investigator-Sleuth 4, 28/28 HP, Init +6 (+4 if 0 luck left), Percep+7 (+8 vs traps), 21 AC 13 Touch 18 Flat, 19 CMD, Fort +3 (+5 vs poisons), Ref +9 (+10 vs traps), Will +6

The ravens need a command word to activate them. Do we know it... was it part of the spellcraft checks?


Human Swashbuckler - 1| HP 20/20 | AC 18/14/14 | CMB +3 | CMD 17 | F +1| R +7| W +0 +4 vs mind effecting | Init +4 Per +4 | Panache 2/3

Leveled up Average hit points.


Male Human Wizard 1, Init +3; Perception +7 (+5 if no Peeko); 16/16 HP, 13 AC 13 Touch 10 FF; Fort +2, Ref +3, Will +3, Splintered Spear 7/7

The spoiler for them simply said Silver Raven Figurines of Power. Spellcrafting them would normally give the password, but since they seem like they might be for new members as they were sort of waiting to be used packed and all I guess it is possible they need a command to be set? That would be pretty cool.


Kitsune Game Master

The command word is printed on the bottom. Next to the best before date. Or you role play it as you like.


HP 43 l AC 19 (T 13, FF17) l 3/3/5 (+2 vs Fear) l Init +2 l Perc +8 *Cover Name - Ba*

DO we know what they might do?


Kitsune Game Master

Identifying them tells you what they do. I found nothing how to find out a command word. Only thing supported by the rules is UMD. And with a command word activated thing, one could say, that once you managed to activate it, you got the command word.

But as nothing exists about found commandword stuff being useless and a pain in the behind, I assume that most play it as simply know when identified.


Male Human Wizard 1, Init +3; Perception +7 (+5 if no Peeko); 16/16 HP, 13 AC 13 Touch 10 FF; Fort +2, Ref +3, Will +3, Splintered Spear 7/7

Fhingle are you wanting a masterwork artisans tool for 55gp? They give +2 whereas artisans tool negate the -2 for not having tools. I imagine with painting the tools Saul has procured would be sufficient to negate the -2 already.


HP 43 l AC 19 (T 13, FF17) l 3/3/5 (+2 vs Fear) l Init +2 l Perc +8 *Cover Name - Ba*

The master work ones should be good, I have 300 and some gold right now and nothign to buy

Liberty's Edge

4/4 Inspiration, 2/2 Luck, Combat Stamina 4/4. Buff/Debuffs: none Investigator-Sleuth 4, 28/28 HP, Init +6 (+4 if 0 luck left), Percep+7 (+8 vs traps), 21 AC 13 Touch 18 Flat, 19 CMD, Fort +3 (+5 vs poisons), Ref +9 (+10 vs traps), Will +6

So I don't think it was intended, but we definitely split the party and there is no retconning it. Based on what people are typing Saul and Jhen and the birds are in the sewer.

Fhingle could have gone either way based on what he wrote.

Salonius must not have read carefully what is going on. He is clearly shopping and talking to someone. Mels and Fhingle?


Male Human Wizard 1, Init +3; Perception +7 (+5 if no Peeko); 16/16 HP, 13 AC 13 Touch 10 FF; Fort +2, Ref +3, Will +3, Splintered Spear 7/7

And just to clarify we are talking wall painting. So, probably a step ladder, and some really nice brushes? Where would you go to buy that? Maybe The Salt Market, as it says it caters to builders?


Male Human Wizard 1, Init +3; Perception +7 (+5 if no Peeko); 16/16 HP, 13 AC 13 Touch 10 FF; Fort +2, Ref +3, Will +3, Splintered Spear 7/7

No I did, Mels, pretty much literally, dragged Salonius off and Salonius suggested that we leave the Storm Sewer exploration until after dark.

In retrospect Mels may have been looking for an excuse to avoid exploring the storm sewer further, in which case LOL.

Liberty's Edge

4/4 Inspiration, 2/2 Luck, Combat Stamina 4/4. Buff/Debuffs: none Investigator-Sleuth 4, 28/28 HP, Init +6 (+4 if 0 luck left), Percep+7 (+8 vs traps), 21 AC 13 Touch 18 Flat, 19 CMD, Fort +3 (+5 vs poisons), Ref +9 (+10 vs traps), Will +6

Ok, I got it. Me and Fhen are in the storm sewer. Fhingle cast light on me before we left and now he is with S and Mels.


Male Human Wizard 1, Init +3; Perception +7 (+5 if no Peeko); 16/16 HP, 13 AC 13 Touch 10 FF; Fort +2, Ref +3, Will +3, Splintered Spear 7/7

Do you mean Jhen? And I am pretty sure Fhingle is with you he just asked us to buy him some painting tools.


HP 43 l AC 19 (T 13, FF17) l 3/3/5 (+2 vs Fear) l Init +2 l Perc +8 *Cover Name - Ba*

Fhingle would have followed Saul since you might need him


Kitsune Game Master

Fhingle needs to make swim checks DC10.

Three of them over the way to now. Mostly for the roleplay fun of it.


Kitsune Game Master

edited to match Sal's post


Male Human Wizard 1, Init +3; Perception +7 (+5 if no Peeko); 16/16 HP, 13 AC 13 Touch 10 FF; Fort +2, Ref +3, Will +3, Splintered Spear 7/7

Appraise specifically does not work for magic items , it can only see if they are magic or not. So how do I determine the value of a magical item? Do I just get it through identifying the item? We are not in a rush so Salonius would be fine with not selling and trying somewhere else, maybe Gather Information to find an appropriate place to buy magic leather armor? Saying you have some to sell seems like a good way to get mugged.


Kitsune Game Master

A DC 20 Appraise check determines the value of a common item. If you succeed by 5 or more, you also determine if the item has magic properties, although this success does not grant knowledge of the magic item’s abilities. If you fail the check by less than 5, you determine the price of that item to within 20% of its actual value. If you fail this check by 5 or more, the price is wildly inaccurate, subject to GM discretion. Particularly rare or exotic items might increase the DC of this check by 5 or more.

You can also use this check to determine the most valuable item visible in a treasure hoard (Which includes magic items). The DC of this check is generally 20 but can increase to as high as 30 for a particularly large hoard.

Now you might start to argue how common magic items are. But I won't join you in that argument.

That guy made an assumption about the value and were wrong. I rolled that he determines it to be more valueable than it is.

We're talking a +1 leather armor which clocks in at 1160gp (1000 Magic, 150 masterwork, 10 base price). Normal sell price is 50% of that. So you got a very generous offer, and you can now either play blissfully ignorant and sell it. Or see if you can come up with a more precise appraise which would be the standard 20 for you, as you know already it is magic for whatever roleplay you would like when you know you get the better part of the deal.


Male Human Wizard 1, Init +3; Perception +7 (+5 if no Peeko); 16/16 HP, 13 AC 13 Touch 10 FF; Fort +2, Ref +3, Will +3, Splintered Spear 7/7

Oh, I know it is a very generous offer - I already have it down as selling for 580gp on the loot sheet - prematurely. I just want to know how I determine whether Salonius knows what it is worth, we will likely want to do repeat business and he is for the most part a fair minded chap.

I like your reading of Appraise much better, it practically ruins the skill if it cannot be used on magic items. So I roll an appraise and then a d2 to determine whether he thinks it is higher or lower if he does not meet the check?


Male Human Wizard 1, Init +3; Perception +7 (+5 if no Peeko); 16/16 HP, 13 AC 13 Touch 10 FF; Fort +2, Ref +3, Will +3, Splintered Spear 7/7

Hopefully that is a reasonable compromise? And hopefully the teams does not crucify me for letting go of 100gp! Those appraise DCs are high! Maybe I need to stick some points in it.


Kitsune Game Master

I roll 1d41+79 for percentage multiplier for failed roll less than five.
And for five or more I don't know. This time I just did that higher or lower check and set the price myself. Wildly inaccurate is a bit hard to put in a ruling especially for too high. I'm still searching myself for something better to automatically have the final value decided by dice in this case too.

Probably roll high/low and factor 1d3+2 as factor or divisor and then resolve the "too much money"-problem by the buyer not able to buy it at that price.


*Chases Peeko*


Male Thrush Familiar, Init +2; Perception +9; 8/8 HP, 17 AC 16 Touch 15 FF; Fort +0, Ref +4, Will +4

"Grahahahahaha, sit you stupid fleabag! Peeko is sulking because there are too many shiny birds! They don't need shiny birds they have Peeko! Peeko is sulking, and now Peeko has to deal with another smelly canine! Peeko deal with you! You just wait until Peeko can deliver touch spells! Peeko delivers one right up your bum! Stupid dog!" Peeko shrieks darting up to a high place where he can glare furiously at the hound.


CN Female Half-Elf Bard 2 | HP 17/17 | AC 16, T 13, FF 13 | F 3, R 7, W 3 ( +2 vs. Enchantment, +4 vs. Charm/Compulsion+4 vs. Sonic, Language Dependent, and BP effects.) | Init +2 | Per +7 (Low-Light Vision), BP Rounds Used: 11/11

Good luck guys, swarms at low level are FUN.

Liberty's Edge

4/4 Inspiration, 2/2 Luck, Combat Stamina 4/4. Buff/Debuffs: none Investigator-Sleuth 4, 28/28 HP, Init +6 (+4 if 0 luck left), Percep+7 (+8 vs traps), 21 AC 13 Touch 18 Flat, 19 CMD, Fort +3 (+5 vs poisons), Ref +9 (+10 vs traps), Will +6

Nah, I think it is mostly dead already... (Saul wouldn't know, but I know as a player that this sized swarm takes 1/2 damage and we did quite a bit in round one)


Male Human Wizard 1, Init +3; Perception +7 (+5 if no Peeko); 16/16 HP, 13 AC 13 Touch 10 FF; Fort +2, Ref +3, Will +3, Splintered Spear 7/7

Agreed though rat swarms and pipes as a combination make me somewhat wary...

Liberty's Edge

4/4 Inspiration, 2/2 Luck, Combat Stamina 4/4. Buff/Debuffs: none Investigator-Sleuth 4, 28/28 HP, Init +6 (+4 if 0 luck left), Percep+7 (+8 vs traps), 21 AC 13 Touch 18 Flat, 19 CMD, Fort +3 (+5 vs poisons), Ref +9 (+10 vs traps), Will +6

So Foxy I need a clarification. I wasn't sure who the rat swarm actually attacked. Now that Jhen posted and claimed the blow, it seems like it attacked him. Because it wouldn't be able to get both of us. Correct?


Male Human Wizard 1, Init +3; Perception +7 (+5 if no Peeko); 16/16 HP, 13 AC 13 Touch 10 FF; Fort +2, Ref +3, Will +3, Splintered Spear 7/7

Swarms do not really attack they take up 4 squares and anyone in their space takes damage. So you and Jhen are presumably both within those 4 squares. They auto hit to so no attack rolls.


Human Swashbuckler - 1| HP 20/20 | AC 18/14/14 | CMB +3 | CMD 17 | F +1| R +7| W +0 +4 vs mind effecting | Init +4 Per +4 | Panache 2/3

Sorry posting from phone and can’t move my icon. Yes I would like to move three space left (west). Thanks.


Male Human Wizard 1, Init +3; Perception +7 (+5 if no Peeko); 16/16 HP, 13 AC 13 Touch 10 FF; Fort +2, Ref +3, Will +3, Splintered Spear 7/7

Jhen moved you. Also if you get the google slides app you should be able to move on your phone.

Liberty's Edge

4/4 Inspiration, 2/2 Luck, Combat Stamina 4/4. Buff/Debuffs: none Investigator-Sleuth 4, 28/28 HP, Init +6 (+4 if 0 luck left), Percep+7 (+8 vs traps), 21 AC 13 Touch 18 Flat, 19 CMD, Fort +3 (+5 vs poisons), Ref +9 (+10 vs traps), Will +6

It wasn't my intention to stay in the swarm. Let's say I stepped back toward Jhen, but far enough away from him that we both can't get hit. I was unclear on the size of these things, but now I understand.

how long am I nauseated?


Kitsune Game Master
Saul Gibson wrote:
how long am I nauseated?

1 Round

Liberty's Edge

4/4 Inspiration, 2/2 Luck, Combat Stamina 4/4. Buff/Debuffs: none Investigator-Sleuth 4, 28/28 HP, Init +6 (+4 if 0 luck left), Percep+7 (+8 vs traps), 21 AC 13 Touch 18 Flat, 19 CMD, Fort +3 (+5 vs poisons), Ref +9 (+10 vs traps), Will +6

Yeah a description of the docks would be great. I am going there to buy a rowboat on the surface level, but I am more interested in talking to people and possibly recruiting. I know that the Thrune's latest announcement has probably really pissed off the entire shipping industry.


Kitsune Game Master

Was reading up on the docks, but decided to give you a little detour. The first entry for the harbour matched too good to let that slip.

Liberty's Edge

4/4 Inspiration, 2/2 Luck, Combat Stamina 4/4. Buff/Debuffs: none Investigator-Sleuth 4, 28/28 HP, Init +6 (+4 if 0 luck left), Percep+7 (+8 vs traps), 21 AC 13 Touch 18 Flat, 19 CMD, Fort +3 (+5 vs poisons), Ref +9 (+10 vs traps), Will +6

I really don't know why silver would be bad for piercing! I get that it is softer, but game wise does it matter? Sure I would like mithral, but this guy is out of my price range!


Male Human Wizard 1, Init +3; Perception +7 (+5 if no Peeko); 16/16 HP, 13 AC 13 Touch 10 FF; Fort +2, Ref +3, Will +3, Splintered Spear 7/7

Piercing and slashing, basically it is too soft to maintain a proper edge, duller blades cut, or pierce more poorly.

PFSRD wrote:


A complex process involving metallurgy and alchemy can bond silver to a weapon made of steel so that it bypasses the damage reduction of creatures such as lycanthropes.

On a successful attack with a silvered slashing or piercing weapon, the wielder takes a –1 penalty on the damage roll (with a minimum of 1 point of damage). The alchemical silvering process can’t be applied to nonmetal items, and it doesn’t work on rare metals such as adamantine, cold iron, and mithral.

Liberty's Edge

4/4 Inspiration, 2/2 Luck, Combat Stamina 4/4. Buff/Debuffs: none Investigator-Sleuth 4, 28/28 HP, Init +6 (+4 if 0 luck left), Percep+7 (+8 vs traps), 21 AC 13 Touch 18 Flat, 19 CMD, Fort +3 (+5 vs poisons), Ref +9 (+10 vs traps), Will +6

Man alive. They have rules for everything in this game. One of the reasons I like it.


Kitsune Game Master

You're level two. Of course Mithral is out of your price range ;)


Human Swashbuckler - 1| HP 20/20 | AC 18/14/14 | CMB +3 | CMD 17 | F +1| R +7| W +0 +4 vs mind effecting | Init +4 Per +4 | Panache 2/3

All, I will be on the road today and unable to post please bot me as needed.


CN Female Half-Elf Bard 2 | HP 17/17 | AC 16, T 13, FF 13 | F 3, R 7, W 3 ( +2 vs. Enchantment, +4 vs. Charm/Compulsion+4 vs. Sonic, Language Dependent, and BP effects.) | Init +2 | Per +7 (Low-Light Vision), BP Rounds Used: 11/11

It should be noted that I, personally, disagree with slavery/treating people poorly in general. However, Meliandri grew up with it.

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