Tal Bernard Mainz |
NP, take your time and enjoy the trip. Safe travels.
DM RichD |
Hi All! Thanks for the patience. My wife and I had a good two weeks on vacation and enjoyed spending time with our four month old godson/nephew. We then spent a couple of days with my in-laws and now back to work tomorrow! The good news is my wife and I probably won't take another vacation until the fall.
Tal Bernard Mainz |
Good for us but bad for you as far as no more vacations for a while. whenever you need time off I hope you take advantage of it. We can wait. Glad the trip was fun at least.
Mera Wist-Thrune |
Hey guys... One of my close friends went into hospice late last week and he just passed away last night. I've not had any motivation to hop on here and play recently, I apologize for the delays in posting. I'll try to get caught up tomorrow.
Tal Bernard Mainz |
sorry to hear that Mera. Wishing you strength and solace at this time.
DM RichD |
Hey all,
I wanted to run something by you all just to make sure we are on the same page. At my homegame, we always played that a natural 20 was an automatic hit even though if the total might not surpassed the target's AC. Conversely, a natural 1 always misses even if the toatl surpassed the target's AC.
For Example, The only way for the wolves to score a hit on Tal would be for me to roll a natural 20, even thouh the total (20+2) would be less that his AC of 25.
On the flip, lets say that a creature had an AC of 5, and your character had a +7 to hit. If you roll a natural 1 you would miss even thou the total 8 is greater that 5.
We do the same with Saving throws, 1 automatically misses even if your bonuses would beat the DC and a 20 automatically makes even if your bonuses would not beat the DC.
Is that what you all are used to?
Tal Bernard Mainz |
Agree that is the way I have slways played it as well.
Naberius Belthrune |
I have no problems with playing these things by the book.
Only one charge has been used unless you want the surprise one to be used?
Yes, I would like for that to have happened.
Raveen Liquean |
Speaking of doing things by the book, Aid Another can't be used unless Raveen is within melee range of the skeleton wolf/dog/undead canine.
Since there is nothing better for him to do in such (very) close quarters, I hope this attempt still works.
I assume Tal is using the bonus to attack--I didn't see the chart :P
Naberius Belthrune |
By my count, as of my second turn that one wolf has taken at least 37 damage (3 damage from Raveen, 25 damage from Tal, and 9 damage from my magic missiles), assuming they have the standard DR 5/bludgeoning. Possibly as much as 41 damage, if Raveen's crit was confirmed. Have their bones been dipped in adamantine or something? :P
Raveen Liquean |
Alas, we hath provoked the great Dee Emm into a contest of wills!
Engarde, you knave!
Thy efforts of arms escalation will be countered from our side with extreme prejudice! We shall be victorious, and then thou shalt raise thy Combhat Raeting once more!
Thus we shalt be locked in an eternal contest of pissing over each other's stat blocks, until one proves superior!
Huzzah! Huzzah!
Tal Bernard Mainz |
Well while you guys are in a pissing match how about pissing on Tal to put out the flames. :P
Naberius Belthrune |
You guys have been blowing through these encounters so I gave them levels! :D
Fair enough. By all means, feel free to turn up the difficulty going foward. There's not much point in playing if there's no challenge. We are pretty strong compared to what the AP expects from the characters.
However, to be entirely honest, this feels a bit excessive for a couple of skeletal wolves locked up in some random closet. Not every encounter needs to be a life-or-death situation. I know I'd be disappointed if that Palaveen fellow was a total pushover, but fighting for this seemingly unimportant room seems like a waste of time, especially considering how long combat takes in PbP. The sudden jump in difficulty without any logical in-game reason was a bit jarring, I think. How were those mooks we just crushed even able to contain these beasts? We were put off our game, which has put Tal in a needlessly dangerous situation. Had we been able to anticipate something as tough as this, we might have been more open to his suggestion to retreat.
That's just my opinion, of course. For all I know, there might be something very important in this room that warrants these hellbeasts being placed here. Whatever the case, I'm sure you can find the right balance as we go on.
Raveen Liquean |
Well while you guys are in a pissing match how about pissing on Tal to put out the flames. :P
Urinating on second-degree burns?!
Incidentally, did you know some people think pissing on burns and wounds sterilizes the area? I'm not foreseeing a CLW or anything, but...Not every encounter needs to be a life-or-death situation.
Only most of them. >:D
--especially considering how long combat takes in PbP.
That's a very good point. Honestly, I'm sort of mentally drifting out with my auto-aid another, and getting kind of bored.
@RichD: Can we auto-fight this? You know, arbitrarily deduct some HP from Tal and the rest of us if this encounter is clearly in the bag. You can make Tal's rolls and their rolls and wrap it up to see how much each of us got hit. We could call this the 'brawl mechanic'.
@Naberius: Hey, you haven't seen anything when it comes to slow combat in PBP! Look up any Legacy of Fire PBP and see when the Pugs attack. GMs forcing rerolls due to bad luck and tactically torturous terrain makes for a single combat go for at least a week and a half--with active players!
DM RichD |
Here is the background about the wolves from the AP:
the commanded ones out of the room, and closes the door on the remaining (still hostile) ones. Thereafter he can move his controlled undead to where he needs them, then relinquishes control of them so they revert to their default behavior of attacking whatever they see—useful for guarding the shop-house entrances to the Bastards’ lair when he doesn’t want to have some of his tieflings on duty.
If you all want, I will allow you all to get out of the room and close the door. The wolves won't follow! :P
Tal Bernard Mainz |
I am fine with whatever RichD goes with. I was expecting him to beef up the encounters at some point. Just got surprised at the hp of them combined with the aura effect. As there is no exit I am all for closing the doo, healing up and moving on.
If it is my turn let me know as I lost track of who is up.
Naberius Belthrune |
@Naberius: Hey, you haven't seen anything when it comes to slow combat in PBP! Look up any Legacy of Fire PBP and see when the Pugs attack. GMs forcing rerolls due to bad luck and tactically torturous terrain makes for a single combat go for at least a week and a half--with active players!
Ugh. That does sound awkward. :S
Here is the background about the wolves from the AP:
SAID BACKGROUND.
Fair enough. Them being gifts from a more powerful party does make a certain amount of sense.
I'm fine with pretty much anything as long as it's logical from an in-world perspective. Things being more powerful just for the sake of it without any plausible explanation rubs me the wrong way. It feels artificial, and breaks immersion. Of course, most of the time players aren't aware of what the GM might be doing behind the scenes. However, a familiar monster suddenly being stronger without any in-game indication of them being exceptional does feel a bit unfair. Skeletons tend to be pretty fragile, and there was nothing in their description indicating that they were any tougher. To be fair, none of us identified them, but that's something to keep in mind in the future.
As there is no exit I am all for closing the doo, healing up and moving on.
My player senses are telling me there might be something important in there, but I don't think we have much in-character reason to waste time with these things. Perhaps after we are done with the rest of the tieflings. Feel free to make the call, since you're the one who is getting toasted.
If it is my turn let me know as I lost track of who is up.
I believe we are waiting for Monday & Tuesday.
DM RichD |
Congrats Everyone on 1,000GP posts! This discussion thread ain't far behind.
@Naberius: I figured if I was going to beef up an encounter somewhat, this would be a good one to do it and keep it logical. I agree though, if I was to throw a red dragon behind one of the doors without any reason why these Bastards would have a red dragon then I would expect you all to call bull doody.
Now to re-write Palaveen being a red dragon.... :P
Tal Bernard Mainz |
At this point I think I would take on a dragon with my AC of 25+ rather than any creature with an aura attached to it.
Just out of curiosity, when does the aura activate? On Tal's turn or on theirs? Also is there a reflex save (crossing fingers here hoping for something)?
[ooc]congrats as well to 1000+ posts
Tal Bernard Mainz |
Just curious if there was a way to move out of the aura before it affected me or not. Thanks for the clarification. Now to get a bludgeoning 2 handed weapon with power attack to destroy these things with.
Tal Bernard Mainz |
Is Raveen in front of the door currently since he opened it? Assuming so at this point.
Tal Bernard Mainz |
I am thinking Raveen opened the door so Tal would be directly behind him ready to attack the skeleton wolves.
D,-8
DM RichD |
Hi All,
If anyone wants, please feel free to submit to my GiantSlayer campaign. I won't play favorites, so your submission would be judged equally against everyone else's. I am limiting to just dwarves, so I know that and the AP in general might not appeal to everyone, but I did not want anyone of you to think it was off-limits either...
Raveen Liquean |
I had an idea about making a dispossessed dwarven lord (melee tank) who was trying to retake his ancestral hold (in true The Hobbit fashion), but there is no canon allowing it.
Anyway, urban campaigns are more my style.
Naberius Belthrune |
I have no real interest in that particular AP, but thanks for the offer.
By the way, I'm out of town for a convention this weekend, so I might not be able to post. At least, nothing too long since I'd be posting from my phone. It may be we are still struggling with this wolf when I get back, so you might not even notice my absence. :P
Mera Wist-Thrune |
Speaking of Mera, I'm planning on returning next week. I appreciate the "leave of absence" so to speak.
Tal Bernard Mainz |
Will do...