Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Inner Sea Monster Codex (PFRPG)

Jadeite wrote:

Marco Massoudi wrote:

Hello Liz, i have a question.
I thought the "Inner Sea Races" hardcover was maybe pushed back a month to june, but that is not the case.

And in july we already got "Occult Adventures".

As i don´t think you will publish 2 hardcovers in one month, will it come out in august or at a later date?

Thank you for your time.

According to the ad in Wayfinder 12, Inner Sea Races will release in September 2015.

Thank you Jadeite! :-)

By the Way, "Inner Sea Races" and "Occult Adventures" aren't in the same bookline (but paizo rarely release two hardcovers at the same time anyway).

I'm really hoping to see some more information about on the Ghoran race here. Fingers crossed.

At what point do we get the actual list of 10 monsters included? That will be how I decide whether to skip it in my Campaign Setting subscription. I didn't buy the previous Monster Codex.

Possibly when they update the product description.

"Learn about the cultures and unique abilities of the ape-like charau-ka, the inbred ogrekin, the stoic centaurs, and more"

Are you looking for the Inner Sea Races thread? This is the Inner Sea Monster Codex thread.

I hope the book use more actual monsters and less PC races.

Yes, I saw those three, leaving seven unaccounted for.

Wasn't answering you, sorry. :) Was answering Berselius who seems to have deleted his post. :)

I can't wait to see what is in this book.

Hopefully Kuru will be supported as well :)

Derro, gotta be some Derro!

Four weeks later, still no product update. Pre-order is one month away and I still don't know whether to bypass this one or not.

Winged strix, aquatic gillmen, ape-like charau-ka, inbred ogrekin, stoic centaurs...and five others to be named in later trades?

This book has some "ready-made stat-blocks" for the mentioned races.

If you are interested in the race as a whole buy either the
"Monster Codex" hardcover or the upcoming "Inner Sea Races" hardcover.

This here is mostly pre-generated characters like in the NPC Codex probably with some new feats and traits.

I will flip through it in my flagstore and decide then if it is worth it because i can generate my own appropriate-powered monsters with class levels in a few minutes with the free PC-Gen.

From the sounds of it this book is going to be exactly the same format as the Monster Codex just covering Inner Sea monsters. Given this is what it's been advertised as I see no reason you'd try to warn people off it. After all the Monster Codex had "ready-made stat-blocks"

I am sure they will update this product soon.

This is 1 of 2 products coming out in june (the other being the Summoners Handbook) that has not yet being updated.

These are the only two products with higher prices coincidently...

Are they getting a re-design?

Are they getting a re-design?

No. They just haven't been updated.

If you are interested in the race as a whole buy either the
"Monster Codex" hardcover or the upcoming "Inner Sea Races" hardcover.

These books all cover different races/monsters.

Marco Massoudi wrote:

If you are interested in the race as a whole buy either the
"Monster Codex" hardcover or the upcoming "Inner Sea Races" hardcover.

These books all cover different races/monsters.

Untrue.

If you read the solicitation for Inner Sea Races it says:

"Learn all there is to know about the peoples of the Pathfinder campaign setting, from elves and dwarves to goblins and strix,"

Also i would be pissed if i buy a Hardcover titled INNER SEA RACES and would not find anything about races who can be point-build with the "Advanced Race Guide" like strix, gillmen and centaurs.

Ogrekin and Charau-Ka are non-playable races - them not be included beyond a single page or two i could understand...

But you got a point as none of the above mentioned are in the Monster Codex as i have written. ;-)

So this book seems like a smaller "Monster Codex" for 10 Races not featured in that book.

It will probably have a few ready-made characters with class-levels.

None the less i expect them to be in INNER SEA RACES...

Seeing as how Occult Adventures just go updated, and that's in July, I would imagine this one is getting updated pretty soon.

Seeing as how Occult Adventures just go updated, and that's in July, I would imagine this one is getting updated pretty soon.

I think hardcovers are updated earlier because the art is ordered earlier.

I´m a curious george too, but i will wait until the street date of the may releases before demanding an update with vehement force. ;-)

Updated with final product description and cover image!

So, going by the final product description, the 10 races included are:

Charau-ka
Cyclopes
Gillmen
Girtablilus
Strix
Derro
Minotaur
Ogrekin
Centaur
?

I'm guessing that charau-ka is the dude hanging from the tree in the upper left corner, behind the P in Pathfinder.

Which leaves the guy in the lower left corner with the snake tongue.

The final race are urdefhans - there's one on the cover. ^_^

Thank you!

Gillmen, Strix, and Derro...SOLD!

So we have brutes, one-eyed brutes, lower body horse, lower body scorpion, monkey guys, evil winged guys, bull-headed guys, aquatic humans, mini-drow and snake-tongued guys.

Are ogrekin like, half-ogres? Human/ogre crossbreeds?

Indeed. Ogrekin are the result of... unpleasant unions. They aren't all identical - they have random mutation and deformity tables.

They're a template, it turns out. So, not just humans...

Are ogrekin like, half-ogres? Human/ogre crossbreeds?

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Ogres are the inbred descendants of hill giants and humans. They sometimes still interbreed with with either of those races, making the 'ogre' race something of a continuum. One could look at it as 'ogrekin' are simply ogres with enough human blood as to be Medium-sized instead of Large. Or just runty ogres.

Well I happy about the centaurs, strix, Cyclopes, gillmen, Minotaurs, Derro, and scorpionfolk.

So we have brutes, one-eyed brutes, lower body horse, lower body scorpion, monkey guys, evil winged guys, bull-headed guys, aquatic humans, mini-drow and snake-tongued guys.

Are ogrekin like, half-ogres? Human/ogre crossbreeds?

Aren't strix neutral? <_< Why you'd think they are evil?

Strix are neutral but they really don't like humans;)

Definitely sold. I love me some Derro.

I would have liked to see some stuff on the Sinspawn, but this is a nice selection.

I think Sinspawn, as cool as they are, are simply too limited to old Thassilon to be covered unfortunately. However I am insanely ecstatic on Urdefhan being thrown in there.

I wonder if this was due to that thread I created a bit back where James Jacobs went into some detail about them.

Will any of the ACG classes be used in this book?

The only question I have about this book is, will it have Simple Class Templates like the previous Monster Codex, but with stuff from the APG, UC, UM, and ACG?

I think Sinspawn, as cool as they are, are simply too limited to old Thassilon to be covered unfortunately. However I am insanely ecstatic on Urdefhan being thrown in there.

I wonder if this was due to that thread I created a bit back where James Jacobs went into some detail about them.

No... Urdefhans are one of the critters from my homebrew. They've been in my game for decades. I've a lot of backmatter stored up to chat about them is all.

What sort of info will we get to see about them James? What can we expect from them? Feats, classes etc?

Monkey Goblins, yes/no?

Close enough. Charau-ka.

k im keeping my $23 then

step it up for Inner Sea Races

this is a bigger fiasco than the Advanced Class Guide (in that it also didn't have monkey goblins)

It's officially early June I think. Is there a date yet?

Major_Blackhart wrote:

I think Sinspawn, as cool as they are, are simply too limited to old Thassilon to be covered unfortunately. However I am insanely ecstatic on Urdefhan being thrown in there.

I wonder if this was due to that thread I created a bit back where James Jacobs went into some detail about them.

No... Urdefhans are one of the critters from my homebrew. They've been in my game for decades. I've a lot of backmatter stored up to chat about them is all.

Mmmmmmmmmmm homebrew races.

This was an awesome book to work on. Thank you for having me.
Cannot wait to get my copy! ^_^

Will the minotaur be more bestial or more Dragonlancey?

I do not want to sound rude or anything, but...

any reason why this booklet is "exclusive" to the Campaign Setting instead of being 50% of an upcoming 2nd Monster Codex for the general rules?

Aside from the Charau-ka, all other monsters were presented in Bestiaries and the Advanced Race Guide (strix, gillmen), so to me, the exclusivity seems a little... odd... even if it's "not that hard" to adapt these to your liking.

If all 10 races were described solely in APs or other Golarion-related books, I would have understood... but I've seen derros, centaurs and cyclops in other general books... UNLESS some of the races presented DID start as Golarion-exclusive before being brought to the mainstream game.

I'll buy that Day 1 for sure, but I felt that I needed to ask :P

The strix and gillmen originated in Campaign Setting material (AP #25 and the ISWG, respectively), so Golarion has first claim. ^_^

I'm guessing we're getting Golarion-specific builds and such. Just guessing though - I couldn't tell you more until I get my own copy.

Also they're all monsters with very specific roles in Golarion beyond their generic monster stats (aside from MAYBE minotaurs, and they still have some stuff going on in Iblydos).

Also they're all monsters with very specific roles in Golarion beyond their generic monster stats (aside from MAYBE minotaurs, and they still have some stuff going on in Iblydos).

And the Worldwound. ^_^

And the Isle of Kortos.