I cannot recall one. CL though generally only influences CL checks, checks for concentration, and occasionally damage.
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There is no general rule that CL cannot exceed HD. Some feats or traits may place a restricion on its use, for example the Magical knack trait.
The wizard in your example casts spells at caster level 16.
I have a 14th level wizard with Varisian tattoo(evocation), pyromaniac gnome race trait (+1 CL to fire spells) and Spell Specialization(Fireball), his CL for Fireball is 18.
CL though generally only influences CL checks, checks for concentration, and occasionally damage.
There is one instance where increasing your (general) caster level really offers something significant: Split Major hex has "caster level 18th" as prereq, with the ioun stone, a Witch can select it as her 17th level feat.
There are some spells like Holy Word that affect HD of creatures equal to your CL, so high caster level is extremely useful. Also Battering blast uses your caster level to calculate the number of blasts you generate with no cap.
Oh, and it is easier to penetrate SR with higher than normal cl.
I found one instance where CL was not able to surpass HD. It's a trait in Ultimate Campaign that gives +2 CL, but it can't surpass your total HD. It's use I imagine is multiclassing, but so far it is the only exception I've found.
I found one instance where CL was not able to surpass HD. It's a trait in Ultimate Campaign that gives +2 CL, but it can't surpass your total HD. It's use I imagine is multiclassing, but so far it is the only exception I've found.
It's the patron trait of eldritch knights.
Arcanists can spend arcane points to boost their CL by 1 (or 2 with exploit) combined with tattoo... yea theres a lot of ways.
Some Alchemical Power Components give +1 CL to some spells.
The Bead of karma gives you +4 CL.
/cevah
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LOL. This is the premise behind the "zapparoo" Sorcerer Magus build. You get a few feats and racial traits and traits that add to Shocking Grasp/CL (and reduce metamagic feat cost by 1). At first level you can do a 4d6+8 Shocking Grasp pretty easily. As you go up levels, you eventually are doing 10d6+20 with it, delivering it through a weapon for a x2 damage multiplier (20d6+40) and eventually empowering it (30d6+60) or maximizing it (160 damage, no save, 2x a round with one quickened). Yeh, it is pretty ugly for a no save first level touch spell... Oh, and can deliver the Sorcerer's as well as the Magus' pool of 1st level spells through your crit heavy weapon (15-20 with keen scabbard or spell). Dip a level(or 3) of Arcanist for a few more castings. Got a build with about 25/day (1st level slots), which is plenty for most days. Of course you will throw in elemental spell metamagic feat around level 5 so you aren't limited to just electric damage. Save your pennies for that quickened spell metamagic rod (or wait for spell perfection feat at level 15). lolz.
@Cevah: The Bead of karma gives you +4 CL.
That's a good thing for divine caster, but unfortunately not for arcane...piety!!
Why not? Nothing in the description keys its use to divine. A divine spell cast will tell you how to use it, but there is no restriction.
Even UMD can make this work.
/cevah
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youare right....didn'T get that nuance...
it says: This item appears to be nothing more than a string of prayer beads until the owner casts a divine spell while the beads are carried. Once that occurs, the owner instantly knows the powers of the prayer beads and understands how to activate the strand’s special magical beads.
It would appear though that you still have to cast a divine spell to know how to activate it....
Question: can UMD replicates casting a divine spell??
UMD was made for activating items "blindly" - so you can make it work without knowing what it does or how it works.
Wasn't there a thread about a Water Elemental death-ball filled with Witch guppies that could crank up Caster Levels to a ridiculous extreme?
While that thread got rather silly in the end, it had a lot of sound advice as I recall.
Wasn't there a thread about a Water Elemental death-ball filled with Witch guppies that could crank up Caster Levels to a ridiculous extreme?
While that thread got rather silly in the end, it had a lot of sound advice as I recall.
Was this the one? It mentions a gripply swarm, and fish in an elemental.
A later post [just a few down] has:
We got death star
we got death star
we got death star
we got death star
EDIT: Someone came up with CL 1,434,399. [478,125 diminutive witches with +3 Aid Another effects.]
/cevah
Someone came up with CL 1,434,399. [478,125 diminutive witches with +3 Aid Another effects.]
LMAO! 478,125 Diminutive witches with Aid another... I snort laughed :D
Anywho, yes you can increase your Caster Level in multiple ways, even beyond your actual level. Items, abilities, feats, traits all stack together.
Genoin was just talking about his 16th lvl Blood Arcanist who could cast Battering Blast at CL25 so he could get 5 orbs of force, which would each deal 8d6+16 damage (with Orc Bloodline, Blood Havoc, Blood Intensity, Potent Magic, Varisian Tattoo, etc) for a total of 40d6+80 dmg, and a 75CMB to bull rush.
Wasn't there a thread about a Water Elemental death-ball filled with Witch guppiesWas this the one?
Yeah that's the one, thanks. Was searching for the wrong keywords.
I found some errors in the calculation. See this post for details. Max coven boost is +514,000 CL.
/cevah
Hiring an NPC should be within your means. A Changeling with the Coven Caster feat will give you another +1.