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There were three that I seem to remember as options, but it has been a while. Pathfinder died out in my area during Covid, and hasn't really recovered.

They’re premades if you don’t have a character of your own.

To which i then have to ask, why are you playing Quinn if you don’t wanna play Quinn? Make your own investigator to seduce barmaids.

Often because I am joining a game that's looking for an extra player, and rather than spend 20-30 minutes throwing one together, making them wait and holding up the game, I pick an iconic for a character role that needs filling. It's called courtesy. If I am joining a group with advance notice, yeah, I often build my own character.

Also, there had been some Society adventures published that either required or strictly encouraged the play of iconic.

I'm sorry, are you trying to set limits for when pregens are acceptable to be played?

Non-explicit representation doesn't really mean anything in a conversation about public representation.

Also, I know people tend to be kind of bad at checking their tone on the messageboard, but "you do know" is kind of a condescending way to open your message and seems likely to put people in a defensive mindset when replying.

Pathfinder is a role-playing game. Even disregarding that the default assumption is that all characters are (at least potentially) bisexual, telling people you HAVE to play this particular iconic character as gay, trans, bi, or whatever is every bit as problematic as telling them they have to play them as straight.

Is MY Quinn less valid than yours because I seduce the barmaid instead of the barman? This is why the iconics are poor choices for representation, they are EVERYONE'S characters

Is it possible to copy the text out of the pdfs? I am attempting to run through some of the older adventures, converting them to newer editions, and wanted to avoid having to retype everything, if possible.

You do know the question of if Valeros is het, bi, gay, or asexual is entirely dependant on who plays him at any given time, right? Same for all iconics.

That Ancestral penalty to Constitution and a lot of fatphobic fantasy genre inertia keep most elves pretty slim in art, but I don't think anything precludes them from putting on weight or muscle like anyone else.

I mean, most elves I've seen lean heavy vegetarian, and that lifestyle, from what I've seen, doesn't lead to chunky waistlines. Usually because nothing compares to a good, Dwarven roasted steak.

I have messaged Customer Service regarding this issue, with no help, as should be expected now, but while I was charged, I never received my order of the physical copy, and the tracking number provided no information. I am currently without my money and without the product I ordered, so i would appreciate you handling this in a timely manner.

This is being posted to the forums in the hopes of raising awareness that customer support is failing at its job.

Same as well,no response when I contacted them about an order I paid for but never received.

Val'bryn2 wrote:

beowulf99 wrote:

Saedar wrote:

I dunno. I have 180d6 (physical) for one specific game.

Also: Rolling apps.

Hmm. Imperial Guard player perhaps? There is a guy at my FLGS who carried a fanny pack of dice, and removed them as his guardsman were killed. Nobody ever wanted to call him on exactly how many dice were in that bag.

On Topic: I think 6-8 of pretty much any die size is about the most I will roll physically. Though all of my gaming for the last... forever... has been via Foundry, so no physical rolling anyway.

If you don't want to roll fistfuls of dice, spellcasters may not be for you...

Actually, at high level, martials also roll tons of dice.

If you combine:
- d20 to hit
- 4 dice of weapon
- up to 3 dice of elemental runes
- 0-4 additional dice (it's possible to go over that but for non repeatable attacks only).
That's 8-12 dice per attacks.

Spellcasters roll more dice at once, but not in total.

And factoring in doubling that number for crits, yeah, I see your point. I'm still stuck in a 1st edition mindset that higher level warriors get more static boni instead.

Serpentfolk were a 5 HD race in PF1, so I highly doubt their power level would be toned down far enough to make them a playable ancestry in PF2. You can expect some small adjustments with 2 HD PF1 races (as we've already witnessed with Lizardfolk), but a CR 4 creature with level 2 SLAs, SR and poison? Not gonna happen.

For anyone who remembers 3rd edition D&D, they had a book, Savage Species, that made monsters playable by having monster classes, such as a 15 level class to grow in power as a Mind Flayer. Seems to me that the multiclassing archetypes for PF2e would work for that, make a base race and gain abilities as they gain levels in their primary class

Saedar wrote:

I dunno. I have 180d6 (physical) for one specific game.

Also: Rolling apps.

Hmm. Imperial Guard player perhaps? There is a guy at my FLGS who carried a fanny pack of dice, and removed them as his guardsman were killed. Nobody ever wanted to call him on exactly how many dice were in that bag.

On Topic: I think 6-8 of pretty much any die size is about the most I will roll physically. Though all of my gaming for the last... forever... has been via Foundry, so no physical rolling anyway.

If you don't want to roll fistfuls of dice, spellcasters may not be for you...

Last I heard there's a backlog in CS's email queue. Waiting is... :-)

Unfortunately it's not the waiting for the email that's bothering me, it's the problem with the subscription.

Okay, I received an order notification for this back on May 5th, it's still marked as Pending, and I haven't yet gotten a response when I messaged customer service. Can someone tell me what's going on, or should I go ahead and write this off?

What about using passwall or disintegrate to put holes in all of the support columns?

Yes, but again, low magic, at this point talking high level people in this town might reach level 6.

I mean, I AM running in the Forgotten Realms, but not every town has 10 wizards in their teen levels

That does clear things up a bit. That said, you did post this in the forum for Pathfinder 2e, whereas you might get more useful answers in one of the D&D5e subforums. As general advice, without regards to any particular system, I agree that it should take these saboteurs exactly as long as the plot requires, ideally with the party arriving at a critical moment (giving them to opportunity to prevent the bridge from being severely damaged or totally destroyed, something along those lines).

Yeah, sorry about that, far more familiar with the Paizo forums, haven't been on the Wizard forums since the final days of D&D 3.5. Don't even know they had one on here, if they do. I'll probably have this done more in waves than anything else, or just see what works out in game

You're killing other sentient beings, purely to bolster your own personal power. Even if you're killing Asmodeus' just-as-evil half-human son, that's an evil act.
And why don't you think evil acts will affect your alignment? It's a meter, not an absolute written in stone " I say I'm Lawful Good, so I can drown 1000 orphans by hand for XP" only works with the laziest GMs

Okay, maybe i should have been a little more clear, but this is low levels (and, strictly speaking, D&D 5E). The characters are 3rd level, so no, we aren't throwing 5th level and up spells. Some of us play low level.

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Claxon wrote:

The process of becoming a lich turns you evil.

Only for monster/NPC ones: the archetypes doesn't do that. You can make it that way in your game if you want though.

From what I can find it's true the lich archetype doesn't explicitly say you're evil, but it mentions needing to complete the ritual to become a lich which I can't find detailed.

Even in PF1, it was the process (the ritual) of becoming a lich that made you evil.

Even if not made explicit I would expect it to be the same.

I would actually consider this a huge miss in lore and the rules if Paizo let it stand that liches could transform without becoming evil in the process.

As I noted, only the bestiary forces an alignment change and there aren't rules for how many [or severity of] evil things you do to alter your alignment. As such, the ritual being evil [or even really, really evil], isn't an automatic shift. The alignment rules in fact are written from the perspective of the character deciding if their alignment changes, not the DM forcing a change.

Now could a DM enforce a change? Sure thing, but that'd be a house-rule. As to "a huge miss in lore", it ONLY works for PC liches and how many of those are there? IMO, I don't think that they impact the overall lore in the least. IMO, it's no more a lore miss than a demon/devil that's not evil and those are in the lore.

I don't think you understand just how evil the ritual of lichdom is. The mundane, easy version requires a minimum of 2 murders, maybe three, just for the pursuit of power. You have to kill a pegasus foal, with wyvern venom. Rip the heart out of a humanoid you poisoned, and have a pint of vampire blood (good luck getting that willingly). The main point is that you are doing these evil actions solely to gain power, which is what damns the prospective lich

Well, to be fair, the guys whacking it with pickaxes is mostly to cause enough damage to make it crumble under its own weight, or to take out a central pillar if it's made of wood.

The thread's title is literally "Paizo buying Might and Magic(IP) or the reverse?" The reverse is Hasbro buying Paizo. And again, if Hasbro owns it, and Paizo wants to buy it to compete, why would Hasbro be interested in helping a competitor?

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The issue I see with the Dungeon of Death strategy is that word tends to get around in fantasy worlds about said dungeons, and then those dungeons start attracting people to them. It's like narrative magnetism or something. Sooner or later you'd have parties of high-level adventurers beating down your door.

A self-fulfilling prophecy...

If you don't expect high-level adventurers to come beating down your door then you don't care about protecting your soul cage. So you can build your Dungeon of Death and put your soul cage in it only when you think you have attracted some attention, and otherwise put a few treasures in there and look at how adventurers crack it open, so you can improve it afterwards.

Anyway, I'd be too paranoid as a lich to have my soul cage unprotected.

For added fun, make your phylactery a stone in the mosaic welcoming victims to your dungeon of death.

No, you still aren't understanding: Paizo is Hasbro's biggest rival in TTRPG, why on Earth would the company that already produces an RPG sell the rights to ANOTHER company, especially given how free Wizards is with producing, essentially, one-off setting books. If they wanted a Might and Magic game, they would produce it themselves. As to your proposal of Hasbro buying Paizo, they would just kill off Pathfinder. TSR learned about competing in-house brands back in the 90s, Hasbro isn't going to need a repeat of that lesson

What benefit is there to Hasbro to sell? Can't see any

Didn't even think about acid, this was going to be a couple guys with pickaxes at work on the stone supports, might try and doing the acid instead. Or some sort of acid elemental

I'm not really active with 2E, but it does look okay to me.

About how long do you think it would take someone to do enough damage to cause a stone bridge to collapse? Running a game involving a battle throughout the city, and was thinking that one encounter would be them defending someone/trying to stop someone from dropping a bridge, to cut off one of the possible avenues of attack.

https://www.gameontabletop.com/cf194/kingmaker-10th-anniversary.html?utm_ca mpaign=799574_Kingmaker%20Apr%202022%20Transfer%20Service&utm_medium=em ail&utm_source=Paizo%20Inc.&dm_i=4XTJ,H4YE,3DXG8S,1UE35,1#project-b lock-details

This should take you to the update.

New update, people can sell their backings. What's everyone's opinion on this?

Read the final adventure in the Savage Tides Adventure Path from Paizo, it had the PCs in a battle against Demogorgon. Before fighting him, they could do about 5 or 6 little missions to weaken him, each of which ended up taking him from a CR 33 Prince of Demons to, at his worst, a mere CR 23 Demon Prince. Still had most of his powers, but weakened, lower DCs, Damage, etc, to show that Demogorgon had been fighting in the war, too.

Actually, they used the same general mechanic in Age of Worms, too. Haven't checked Shackled City to see how married to the concept they were back then.

Astral Plane could probably work for it, the deities could probably transform areas of it into a temporary amphitheater for watching things unfold

It isn't finished until it's in the banker's hands. Creative work may be done, but that isn't the end of it.

My apologies, didn't realize this was going to be a place for singing Paizo's praises when they haven't delivered the product, where any voicing of annoyance was going to be met with personal attacks.

I am sorry that the fact that I, and others, are growing tired waiting for a project that we funded to finally be released, and are annoyed at being treated like we are out of line for pointing out that we should be given what we paid for, regardless of how things go with brick and mortar stores. You may have not noticed this, but most books they release aren't down as Kickstarters, so no, expecting me to wait until it's released in stores is not something I find acceptable, because this is not a preorder. If it was to be treated exactly the same, why would I bother supporting the Kickstarter when I can get the exact same thing by waiting?

I paid them $230 for it three years ago, yes, I am ready to see exactly what I paid for. I have had bad experiences with buying a product from Paizo,back when they sold PDFs of AD&D books, only to come back a month or so later and Wizards of the Coast had had Paizo take them down. Didn't get a refund or anything, just a couple weeks access. Since then I have enjoyed Pathfinder, but my trust in Paizo as a company has been a little shaky.

While I can partly say that I want the Kingmaker adventure path, mostly I want to see that my money hasn't been thrown away. I want the product I have paid for, long ago.

Three years out of date, lol. Second edition isn't even three years old, nor is this project. The project is a bit over a year late, and will likely be released about a year and a half after the first projected date.

I'm happy to wait, for it's only late until it's shipped, but if it's bad it is likely bad forever.

Might want to check things before posting, I put in my payment for this thing May 19th of 2019, which makes this just 2 months shy of 3 years since the shipping price was calculated. Ample time for prices to be increased.

And it's good that you're so devoted that you are willing to give them your money for no product, but I put in for a specific purpose, and I think that having achieved over a thousand percent of their goal, they are obligated to provide. They will, but that wasn't the point of my post.

Does anyone know if they are going to be charging more for shipping, since the quoted price is now three years out of date, or if they are honoring their original estimate?

Thanks for everyone's views, this is really an interesting question when it comes to world-building

Oddly enough, that weredeinonychus was not made into a separate creature alongside a skinwalker heritage.

Weredinosaurs can exist, but the biggest issue is that most of their victims are gonna be bigger than humans. Most carnivorous dinosaurs, in Pathfinder, are Huge or larger, and the afflicted creature has to be within one size of the base creature. Large-sized humanoids are often Giants, which are already of a high CR. Slap the lycanthrope template with a dinosaur and it can skyrocket.

Yeah, that sounds like a fun boss fight. "Okay, you are in battle with a fire giant, who goes into a blood rage, and then becomes a T-Rex". "you hate us, don't you?"

Not really a question just for 2E, but how do you think the altitude for magic is discovered in fledglings? I know that sorcery is "in the blood", but how about a person who can be a wizard? A Cleric? Bard or druid? I had an idea for a character who spent much of his down time teaching others the basics of magic to spread the glory of Nethys, but how do you figure he can find the ones with potential?

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Yeah, still makes no sense that the shipping delays have halted one book, but the other one makes it through no problem. It's just odd.

Not everything at a port is first-in-first-out. Imagine a container at the bottom of a pile that is constantly being added to at the same time things are being removed. It may take some time to dig it out from under the pile, while the next container gets put on top, then taken off relatively quickly.

Not the best person to ask to imagine it, I worked at a grocery store, rotating the stock was drilled into my head. :)

Yeah, still makes no sense that the shipping delays have halted one book, but the other one makes it through no problem. It's just odd.

Okay, I just got the next adventure path book, Quest for the Frozen Flame, what's the deal with having the second adventure path released before we even finish the previous adventure path? Just seems curious.

So their estimate of when it will be released was, as usual, woefully off mark.

How is Paizo responsible for this ?

Because I have already paid them for the book, and they have not provided said book. I fulfilled my end of the contract, they have yet to do so. They have, as others and myself have pointed out, released numerous books in the main line, in side lines, in the adventure paths, and even in society adventures, but they have not produced the one book (or set) that has already been paid for.

So if your gaming group had waited to dissolve until after you had the product it wouldn't have been a waste of money?

It would have been just another one of those things. Paizo ran a Kickstarter, making promises as to providing books. Twenty-six months later, we haven't gotten the PDFs, much less the physical books that were promised. Paizo dropped the ball. That cannot be argued. We can argue about how "justified" it was, but the fact is, they received money, we have received nothing but glimpses at the product we've already paid for.

Neither you nor I paid for a deadline AFAIK.

So you are content with waiting for Pathfinder 3rd edition being released to receive Pathfinder 2E material? You're fine with them holding off on releasing it for 4,5 years or so after taking your money to give you something that other single people have been able to bash out in roughly 60 hours?

How's Paizo responsible for you not talking to your gaming group?

I never claimed they were. What I did say was that I purchased this product with the intention of playing it with them, and during the delays that Paizo has had with the product, the gaming group I had dissolved. I never claimed they were responsible, but that doesn't change the fact that, during the delays, the reason I purchased the product ceased to be a factor.

Here's the thing, though, especially for those saying "you didn't pay for a book". Yes, I did. Part of the pledge says "pay this much, and receive these items". I paid that much, as yet I have nothing, including the PDFs that were supposed to be part of it. They have taken 26 months so far. As others have said, they made their pledges for specific purposes, which the delay made untenable. If it's not released in a timely manner to work with the purposes it was ordered for, those books become just so much junk cluttering up a bookshelf. I ordered it because my gaming group would have enjoyed it. Been 2 years since we spoke, so my primary reason for ordering this has gone.

Baby Nagas. Thread over.

Love that my comment was deleted when I responded to someone bringing Covid into the discussion, because it was "beyond the scope of the discussion". I paid for a product, Paizo has failed to deliver so far, and I have no recourse for if they decide they just don't feel like doing this anymore, and when I voice my displeasure as to this, I am shamed for daring to expect to get something for my money.

Problem is we sent them half a million dollars for product, and they haven't delivered. James Jacobs has said it was a bigger project than he anticipated, but he's not exactly a newbie to all this. He knows how this goes. Okay, I was hasty in saying they haven't been delivering updates, first time I used Kickstarter, and just noticed the updates tab, I've mostly been looking for updates on the paizo website. Global pandemic, as I mentioned, isn't really an excuse considering how most of this stuff can be done work-from-home, and the pandemic hasn't stopped Paizo from releasing either two or three adventure paths, 2 sourcebooks, and either one or two campaign setting books over the course of the same pandemic.

I'm just a little wary of things like this after I got screwed over before by Paizo and Wizards of the Coast back just before 4th edition got released, when I had purchased about a dozen pdfs of AD&D books from Paizo, only for Wizards to have them taken down shortly thereafter, leaving me having paid for material I could no longer access