Pathfinder Adventure Path #167: Ready? Fight! (Fists of the Ruby Phoenix 2 of 3)

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Well I was already going to buy this, but the title would have convinced me had I been on the fence.

kaiju! Please tell me James Jacobs is writing this article. I loved how they turned out in 1st ed, so I hope they are just as good in this edition. I'm excited either way.

David N. Ross is given as writer of this volume on the mock-up cover.
The name sounds familiar, can anybody tell me what he has written before?
Not necessarily only for Paizo.

I hope that all seven enemy teams are detailed or at least the ones that are fought before the Kaiju rises from the sea.
People who want to play this may need/want to get a toy/action figure to represent that creature, as there are no Pathfinder Battle minis larger than 4 x 4.
January 2021 will bring an 8 x 8 ancient white dragon mini from D&D though.

David's written a ton of stuff. He's really prolific (and a good guy, who's a huge resource for other freelancers, to boot!).

Here's just his Paizo stuff.

Friendship? Again?

Yup, very on board with this.

...I hope that all seven enemy teams are detailed or at least the ones that are fought before the Kaiju rises from the sea.

People who want to play this may need/want to get a toy/action figure to represent that creature, as there are no Pathfinder Battle minis larger than 4 x 4.

I am READY!

Nice cover :)

Oh hey its hao jin

I do wonder if this ap will be finally one to switch out artists. Since all paizo artists will eventually switch out for other ones :O

(I still miss artist who did art for war for the crown, return of the runelords and tyrant's grasp x'D Those aps had my favorite art overall)

Awesome, Hao Jin.

Well, hello, Hao Jin.

I wonder if her disappearance for a hundred years or more will be retconned or explained in detail.

Well, hello, Hao Jin.

I wonder if her disappearance for a hundred years or more will be retconned or explained in detail.

Hao Jin, Ruby Phoenix Tournament and Hao Jin Tapestry are long running 1e Pathfinder Society plotline(while the module was technically not society scenario, its very much tied in with the society and one of society season specials was the tournament's preliminary rounds just like first book of the ap), you actually got to meet her and found out what she had been up to in one of last few seasons.

(She is also featured in Lost Omen Legends ;D Get that book please its the best)

Oh hey its hao jin

I do wonder if this ap will be finally one to switch out artists. Since all paizo artists will eventually switch out for other ones :O

(I still miss artist who did art for war for the crown, return of the runelords and tyrant's grasp x'D Those aps had my favorite art overall)

If you're talking about Ekaterina Burmak, she is the one doing the covers for the Lost Omens line. Could someone correct me if I'm wrong?

And also, of the three APs you mentioned, Ekaterina wasn't the artist responsible for War for the Crown's covers.

I wonder if we'll actually get stats for a kaiju in this book, or if they'll be treated more like an environmental hazard, since that's what a kaiju would feel like to a party below level 20.

If we do, here's hoping they're still above level 25 like they were in PF1E. I know that printing monsters with levels that high would equate to little more than stat porn for PF2E right now ... but I wants my big number stat porn anyway.

CorvusMask wrote:

Oh hey its hao jin

I do wonder if this ap will be finally one to switch out artists. Since all paizo artists will eventually switch out for other ones :O

(I still miss artist who did art for war for the crown, return of the runelords and tyrant's grasp x'D Those aps had my favorite art overall)

If you're talking about Ekaterina Burmak, she is the one doing the covers for the Lost Omens line. Could someone correct me if I'm wrong?

And also, of the three APs you mentioned, Ekaterina wasn't the artist responsible for War for the Crown's covers.

I'm not talking about cover artist so no I wasn't talking about Ekaterina. I was talking about the one who did npc(and also the separate one who did scene art in those aps) art IN the those books.

To give single specific example of which artist I'm talking about, Eulogy for Roslar's Coffer page 79.

Anyway, 2e AP npc art(which is different than npcs on cover art) is okay yeah, but for few books it has had this... I'm not good with drawing terms, painting like feel? Its good looking, but not to as much along my tastes. Everyone has their own tastes and favorites

magnuskn wrote:

Well, hello, Hao Jin.

I wonder if her disappearance for a hundred years or more will be retconned or explained in detail.

Hao Jin, Ruby Phoenix Tournament and Hao Jin Tapestry are long running 1e Pathfinder Society plotline(while the module was technically not society scenario, its very much tied in with the society and one of society season specials was the tournament's preliminary rounds just like first book of the ap), you actually got to meet her and found out what she had been up to in one of last few seasons.

(She is also featured in Lost Omen Legends ;D Get that book please its the best)

Ah, nice to know. Well, I'll look into that book, to see if it is fluff-heavy. Not very much into the crunch-heavy books, hopefully understandably so.

CorvusMask wrote:

magnuskn wrote:

Well, hello, Hao Jin.

I wonder if her disappearance for a hundred years or more will be retconned or explained in detail.

Hao Jin, Ruby Phoenix Tournament and Hao Jin Tapestry are long running 1e Pathfinder Society plotline(while the module was technically not society scenario, its very much tied in with the society and one of society season specials was the tournament's preliminary rounds just like first book of the ap), you actually got to meet her and found out what she had been up to in one of last few seasons.

(She is also featured in Lost Omen Legends ;D Get that book please its the best)

Ah, nice to know. Well, I'll look into that book, to see if it is fluff-heavy. Not very much into the crunch-heavy books, hopefully understandably so.

It is EXTREMELY lore heavy book :D

Hao Jin is technically a female human Sorcerer with the phoenix bloodline correct? I wonder if we'll get info on that bloodline?

magnuskn wrote:

CorvusMask wrote:

magnuskn wrote:

Well, hello, Hao Jin.

I wonder if her disappearance for a hundred years or more will be retconned or explained in detail.

Hao Jin, Ruby Phoenix Tournament and Hao Jin Tapestry are long running 1e Pathfinder Society plotline(while the module was technically not society scenario, its very much tied in with the society and one of society season specials was the tournament's preliminary rounds just like first book of the ap), you actually got to meet her and found out what she had been up to in one of last few seasons.

(She is also featured in Lost Omen Legends ;D Get that book please its the best)

Ah, nice to know. Well, I'll look into that book, to see if it is fluff-heavy. Not very much into the crunch-heavy books, hopefully understandably so.

It is EXTREMELY lore heavy book :D

Yeah, got it today in the workplace mail. Already leafed through it, very nice. I'll read it over the next week. Thank you for the lead!

The Player's Guide for this AP has a little info on her too.

I love the cover! I wonder if they will be bringing a phoenix blood line to PF2E?

Draw the map > print the map > buy the map > build scale model complete with cheering fans

Any guesses what the arena(s) is going to look like? The cover shots all suggest a typical (to me) circular pit surrounded by stadium seating. I wonder how often the 'arena' will be used, because if it is a lot, I may want to make something memorable.
Too early?

Will this product be delayed as well due to Despair on Danger Island being delayed?

Will this product be delayed as well due to Despair on Danger Island being delayed?

We don't think so. The container holding our April products is stuck by some process at the port, and until they fix whatever is blocking it we're out of luck. (We don't know what or why—wouldn't that make some good fiction?!) But that should not affect the May product at all.

I'm hoping we get more info on the Phoenix Bloodline! :D

Also hoping the five new monsters are Kaiju! ^_^

Hands down the best adventure module title ever.

Lonesomechunk wrote:

Will this product be delayed as well due to Despair on Danger Island being delayed?

We don't think so. The container holding our April products is stuck by some process at the port, and until they fix whatever is blocking it we're out of luck. (We don't know what or why—wouldn't that make some good fiction?!) But that should not affect the May product at all.

Everything being pushed until July 7th now? More delays?

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Why is this listed in the new releases if it is being delayed to July. Also could we get some sort of response from the Devs as to the nature of the delay of all this months Pathfinder products?

Why is this listed in the new releases if it is being delayed to July. Also could we get some sort of response from the Devs as to the nature of the delay of all this months Pathfinder products?

Hello. Sorry for the delays. They come from extreme shipping delays and are addressed in the Customer Service threads posted above. (The Devs have nothing to do with the delays). All three volumes of Fists of the Ruby Phoenix are now targeted for July 7. Customer service is available to assist you via email and our forums. Thanks for your patience as we ship to our distributors, subscribers and individual customers.

Draw the map > print the map > buy the map > build scale model complete with cheering fans

Any guesses what the arena(s) is going to look like? The cover shots all suggest a typical (to me) circular pit surrounded by stadium seating. I wonder how often the 'arena' will be used, because if it is a lot, I may want to make something memorable.
Too early?

Thanks to PaizoCon and live streams I have a partial answer for my question.

And yes! I will be building at least one of the maps in a scale model. I bet I could use it at Bestiary Bash when we get back to a RL PaizoCon too!

Three weeks is still too far away! :(

Anyone have this yet? I’m jonesing for info on that Goka gazetteer.

Anyone have this yet? I’m jonesing for info on that Goka gazetteer.

One nice thing about all three dropping at once: yes I got it. One bad thing about all three dropping at once: I have only downloaded/looked at book 1 so far.

Anyone have this yet? I’m jonesing for info on that Goka gazetteer.

Got 5 pages of info along with a full page art of Fumbus running from ninjas! Gazetterr includes 17 locations on the lovely map on the inside cover.

I personally enjoyed the Government and Leaders section which give some good info on some of the more memorable members of parliament (including Hao Jin). And the Gambling section, which is more of a way of life than a hobby.

The Sixth Pillar archetype is pretty interesting. One of the feats (requires level 16) increases a character's unarmed proficiency to master if they also have master proficiency in spell attacks (or vice versa). As far as I'm aware, this is the only way a full caster can reach master proficiency in any type of non-spell attack. Doesn't seem to be limited to any particular tradition, either, so it could be interesting for a Warpriest of Irori or something.

The Sixth Pillar archetype is pretty interesting. One of the feats (requires level 16) increases a character's unarmed proficiency to master if they also have master proficiency in spell attacks (or vice versa). As far as I'm aware, this is the only way a full caster can reach master proficiency in any type of non-spell attack. Doesn't seem to be limited to any particular tradition, either, so it could be interesting for a Warpriest of Irori or something.

This is the rules element I've mentioned previously (on paizo.com and Paizocon discord) is flagged for errata for seriously violating the design guidelines. For the moment, we strongly recommend that you do not use the level 16 feat from the Sixth Pillar in your games (the dedication feat also has similar issues with the rate of expert).

Wow, that basically breaks all the rules Paizo's set up for how proficiency works, but is a pretty neat way to enable some weird builds.

Mechalibur wrote:

The Sixth Pillar archetype is pretty interesting. One of the feats (requires level 16) increases a character's unarmed proficiency to master if they also have master proficiency in spell attacks (or vice versa). As far as I'm aware, this is the only way a full caster can reach master proficiency in any type of non-spell attack. Doesn't seem to be limited to any particular tradition, either, so it could be interesting for a Warpriest of Irori or something.

This is the rules element I've mentioned previously (on paizo.com and Paizocon discord) is flagged for errata for seriously violating the design guidelines. For the moment, we strongly recommend that you do not use the level 16 feat from the Sixth Pillar in your games (the dedication feat also has similar issues with the rate of expert).

That is good to know, thank you for bringing it up so early. As soon as I read that it seemed like too much.

Oh, that's too bad. I understand if it goes against the design guidelines, but I've personally found those a bit restrictive when it comes to casters that want to invest in weapon skills.

That's a shame. Making a really bad build slightly better all the way at level 16 doesn't seem that egregious, but oh well.

Mechalibur wrote:

The Sixth Pillar archetype is pretty interesting. One of the feats (requires level 16) increases a character's unarmed proficiency to master if they also have master proficiency in spell attacks (or vice versa). As far as I'm aware, this is the only way a full caster can reach master proficiency in any type of non-spell attack. Doesn't seem to be limited to any particular tradition, either, so it could be interesting for a Warpriest of Irori or something.

This is the rules element I've mentioned previously (on paizo.com and Paizocon discord) is flagged for errata for seriously violating the design guidelines. For the moment, we strongly recommend that you do not use the level 16 feat from the Sixth Pillar in your games (the dedication feat also has similar issues with the rate of expert).

What are Paizo's plans for errataing APs? I don't think its been done ever before. Could we also get errata for Lost Omens books?

What are Paizo's plans for errataing APs? I don't think its been done ever before. Could we also get errata for Lost Omens books?

Lost Omens books have some errata planned for them, in the PFS rulings you can see what some of it is planned.

Mark Seifter wrote:

Mechalibur wrote:

The Sixth Pillar archetype is pretty interesting. One of the feats (requires level 16) increases a character's unarmed proficiency to master if they also have master proficiency in spell attacks (or vice versa). As far as I'm aware, this is the only way a full caster can reach master proficiency in any type of non-spell attack. Doesn't seem to be limited to any particular tradition, either, so it could be interesting for a Warpriest of Irori or something.

This is the rules element I've mentioned previously (on paizo.com and Paizocon discord) is flagged for errata for seriously violating the design guidelines. For the moment, we strongly recommend that you do not use the level 16 feat from the Sixth Pillar in your games (the dedication feat also has similar issues with the rate of expert).

What are Paizo's plans for errataing APs? I don't think its been done ever before. Could we also get errata for Lost Omens books?

I wish I had a errata policy to point to. Currently, we generally print errata when products are reprinted. (We rarely reprint APs, but Lost Omens definitely gets reprints.) When we generate errata is also is posted under the Pathfinder and Starfinder FAQ's. Honestly, I know less about PFS and SFS errata tracking, I'll try to be better about that.

Could anyone give us more info about the Kaiju article?

Could anyone give us more info about the Kaiju article?

High level look at 4 individual kaijus. No game stats but apage of lore and two adventure hooks for each.

Kaiju’s covered are:

This book is exactly what i was expecting of the whole AP: you fight in a tournament against other combatants in different arenas.
There is even a diagram showing the progress of the different teams up to the finale, very well done.
The Kaiju article also looks good.

do we have any idea on how the sixth pillar archetype will be errata'd? I could be missing something but the whole point of the 16th level feature was to improve proficiencies up to master so I'm curious if they'll be replacing that with something else

The Fists of the Ruby Phoenix trailer will premiere on YouTube at 3 PM Pacific today.

Roll20 does not have a release date for this product at this time.
"For those of you asking about other Paizo AP/Adventure titles: Ruby Phoenix and Malevolence we don't have ready at this time, and I don't know at this point when we'll be able to release them on Roll20 but will do better to keep you updated about those timelines moving forward. At present, our production focus has been on the Lost Omens line as well as staying day-and-date with upcoming book releases like Secrets of Magic and Tech Revolution. We know we have a lot to catch up on due to Paizo's sheer volume of content and are prioritizing as best as we can to make the best Paizo experience possible for y'all!"