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I'm LOVING the cover art and the new logo, its giving like 80s space anime and I'm super into it. I can't wait to learn more about the new Solarion as well, Pahtra being in core and as one of our iconics has me super excited!


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this would be rad on Foundry being a full 1-15 AP thats getting lots of praise, i'd definitely be interested


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Shea Hoarfoot wrote:
No file… looks like a system error or maybe it’s a ghost file.?

a season of ghosts file even


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yeah multiple regions in the same setting are a much safer bet since people don't need to completely relearn the lore and history of the entire setting, in areas like Tian Xia there are some familiar deities from the Inner Sea and ancestries we recognize as well, which makes it a lot easier to introduce folks to areas in different regions due to those bits of connective tissue. Entirely different settings can be a risk but that's not whats happening here.
If anything it fits in with the themes that pathfinders been exploring lately, showing how the world is growing over time as we saw with stuff like Hao Jin being freed and her Tapestry being undone which led to the Fist of the Ruby Phoenix AP for instance and getting to see the ramifications of that plotline


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same here, cant even download it


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Yeah and like, I don't know if thats the intent or not, maybe this is just an early playtest thats a bit stronger/overtuned than most pf2e casters because its a playtest but its a bit unclear if thats an intentional boosting of overall power or an accidental one


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im a little sad to hear that domains are getting removed from exemplar but otherwise everything else im pretty happy with, domain spells are cool and getting an archetype for it is a fine compromise, I just have a craving for more focus martial classes haha


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Yeah, like, I'm not against SF2E casters being beefier to account for the firearms everyones gonna have, but if they're meant to be balanced against PF2E casters they should probably not have 4 spell slots per level like a sorcerer to justify the increase in defensive stats, vitality network & connection benefits

That being said, If SF2E classes are meant to be better than their PF2E peers im ok with that too but I just think it would be nice to know if thats the intent or if these are just some playtests that happen to be swinging pretty hard on power before they pull some stuff back just so I dont keep comparing them to say, sorcerer when I shouldnt be


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also in terms other things mystic related, im loving the feats tbh, there's a lot of really fun and cool options! One of my biggest pet peeves about playing a caster in pf2e is that feats can often feel pretty underwhelming or uninteresting so seeing stuff like network spell or memory bank are really cool and interesting! (Animist is in a similar boat with having stance feats for a caster which is really fun)


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im loving the mystic so far, I just have some questions/concerns on class balance and such for Starfinder 2e classes. I know the metas are different hence why certain options come online earlier such as flight but are the classes still meant to be comparable balance-wise to PF2e classes? If so, the mystic is currently REALLY strong (and I love it) but getting sorcerer amount of spell slots + a blood magic esque effect + a focus spell + vitality network + better hp and armor than a sorcerer means Id probably never want to pick a primal or divine sorcerer ever again with mystic on the table.
Understandably this is a very pre-sneak peek on the mystic and this is not a complaint, but I would like to ask if the whole "metas are different" thing is more meant to explain why certain options will be more useful or more common or if thats a way of saying that PF2E and SF2E won't be able to mix with each other without there being some balance wonkiness. They're based on the same core system and the FAQ says you'll be able to sprinkle a bit of starfinder into your pathfinder and vice versa which seems to imply that theyre meant to be comparable in terms of balance. I think it would be nice if that was clarified since I'm not sure how much I should be evaluating these classes to the baseline of PF2E Player Core if at all


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also i am LOVING the new logo and the new pahtra iconic, their design is absolutely amazing and i get gender envy looking at them


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this is exciting but i hope the archaic trait is tweaked a bit, maybe if its a magical weapon it bypasses the resistance


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Thank you paizo, as an artist I respect you for taking a stance on this unethical practice, you can't remove the processes and the artist from the art, whether it be writing, art or otherwise and a lot of people don't really understand why when they look at a pretty picture it made from stealing the hard work of artists who did not consent
AI Art isn't Art, making creative decisions, mistakes, developing a style and refining a project based on feedback are all integral to the process


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Sakuachi isnt a mary sue, its pretty clear that the writers were aware such a criticism would be made in the AP itself and included a sidebar to help explain that Sakuachi isnt mean to overshadow the heroes. She doesnt fight and basically fills the role of what would have been a magical relic in another adventure but I like that she's her own character. Having a friendly NPC to travel with the party is fun and the party is already fulfilling the role of a "chosen one" in a traditional story, just through an ironic lens.
If anything I hope paizo includes recurring NPCs in their APs more often, its fun to have friendly faces in adventures for players to build off of and grow alongside. In Strength of Thousands the students have been a major success with my players so I expect Sakuachi to be well received too


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I love the cover art, I'm guessing that must be Sakuachi on the front, I love their design and I'm genuinely excited to meet them! I'm hopeful that their handling of Erutaki culture will be more sensitive this time around and Sakuachi seems like a cool NPC from what little we know of them from book 1


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having more 11-20s would be nice, Id love it if we had 11-20 APs that could work well as "followups" to 1-10 APs but I understand thats a difficult task to manage, I just think of how Devastation Ark for Starfinder has a lot of lore and thematic followups to Dead Suns while still technically being its own AP


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ooooh thats a cool idea! Heck, theres a lot of fun to be had with the idea of breaking a 6-part AP into two-3 part Arcs since thats essentially what I did with Strength of Thousands, turning Books 1-3 into the student focus and then edited Book 3 to be about proving your worth and graduating with books 4-6 focusing on the professor stuff and the other regions of the mwangi expanse (even though I did tweak things a bit to make it work that way)


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On the topic of this AP though, Im very excited, I love APs like this or Outlaws of Alkenstar that are just begging for specifically themed parties to play in! Plus the idea of treasure hunting and spending time in Highhelm as a party of dwarves and such is very exciting! I can't wait to see what this one holds


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I love both 3-part and 6-part APs but I think a neat compromise could be to have Two 3-part APs that can go together but are otherwise separate arcs (which I know is a lot to ask) but I can see how some 6-part APs already kind of play with this idea like how in Blood Lords, parts 1-3 and 4-6 while connected, seem to form two arcs in of themselves, that being the whole "proving yourself to be blood lords" and the "now we're blood lords and getting more involved in the plot and politics" so to speak. I know Keftiu has mentioned an 11-20 darklands AP that could serve as a possible followup to either this AP or Abomination vaults since it deals with themes of the darklands and underground most likely. Likewise there could be something like a 1-10 AP set in Tian Xia as self contained story leading into the Fists of the Ruby Phoenix etc etc

I would hate to see 1-20 APs go away entirely but I do absolutely love the 3-part APs and the many new stories we're able to tell as a result! Outlaws of Alkenstar wouldnt exist if 3-parters didn't and I'm excited to see what else is coming, so I feel like its ok if 3-parters are much more common and 6-parters are sprinkled in every now and then after some 3-parters but thats just me


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thats fair, I feel like divine magic is odd because the others kinda just get away with being vague and not entirely explaining where the magic comes from in specific terms but divine magic is a little strange since it tries to make explicit connections to "Gods" but then that makes me wonder how that system works, what makes a non-divine being capable of granting divine spells? Do they simply "become" divine when they reach a high enough level? Theres a lot of little things that get me wondering

I like the idea that belief is tied to divine magic but then I get confused with classes like Witch that use Intelligence and can still tap into the divine or Oracles who don't need to worship a god


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this makes me wonder where divine magic itself comes from since classes like Oracles can bypass the whole god thing and still make use of divine power, is it like how druids use the magic of the natural world but instead of the natural world its just the energies of the outer planes themselves or something?


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Does Paizo or any of the executives have anything to say about Diego's posts on twitter about how he was denied a promotion because he didn't "need" it or he was "emotionally unstable" based on posts from many years past on a private vent account where he discussed his past struggles with mental health?

Don't get me wrong I support this, but this feels a little hollow coming from those same people


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Also just because other people may have more diverse friend groups or know Jewish folks doesn't mean that "suddenly a bunch of people are claiming that their imaginary Jewish friends are happy with the change"

Like, YOU might not know very many but that doesn't speak to other peoples experiences and assuming as such is very rude and doesn't help your argument any


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Not assuming tone is fine and all since it CAN indeed be hard to judge tone, but that doesn't mean its impossible, and after seeing dozens of messages like it, I find it hard not to notice patterns of wording used and the ways in which such messages have been used before to shut down people's complaints and tone police


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One can also be "rude" while demanding for accountability and change and seeking improvement and it does not invalidate their concerns or their points. Being on the moral high ground means little when there is active Injustice at play


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Yeah, I'm not a fan of the bending of the rules going on or really much of anything surrounding this situation. It's very concerning


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Also I forgot to mention in my earlier post, but I appreciate you mentioning your commitment to diversity Mike, and your acknowledgement that actions speak louder than words. I think I speak for many of us when I say that I would like to see some action, as many of us aren't sure we can place our trust in paizo in its current state.

Thank you for taking the time to respond and communicate, I appreciate it


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I appreciate the response Mike, I still think its kinda shady though that while someone like Diego was denied any chance of a promotion, someone who hasn't been with the company for a full year got to become an executive. This isn't targeted at you of course, but rather the circumstances surrounding this whole situation do not sit well with me and it raises some further concerns with management as a whole


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Also the reason people are so critical of things lately is because nothings really improved. There's been a lot of promises of things to come but so far all we've seen is these promotions and paizo recognizing the union while still avoiding taking any responsibility (and that latter one kind of had to be done, the union was like half the size of the company)

When we say we want more diverse hiring practices and better treatment of employees and to address the allegations of transphobia...elevating two white men to executive positions while hearing about Diego's denial of any chance of doing the same just feels like a slap in the face


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Once again I must reiterate, it must be a wild coincidence that all the "best people for the job" happen to be white and they couldn't find ANY POC to include in their leadership position despite having many that have worked for them for years, and these same people that were hired also happen to be friends with the executives.
Thats not even getting into how people like Diego were denied any chance of a promotion while these two had their positions elevated by creating new positions in leadership for them


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If we didn't care we wouldn't be here and so invested in wanting to see paizo do better. It would be a massive waste of my time to tear down a company making a product I enjoy, not to mention it would be a ridiculous waste of energy


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Well spoken Lissa, thank you for speaking up


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Personally I feel that Rise is incredibly overrated and hasn't aged well but I understand its importance as the first major AP and how it introduced many people to Varisia and the Runelords which are well loved, so I get why its popular, I just think there are other technically better APs out there since its been many years since Rise was written and paizo has improved a lot since then


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also just to clarify, as a gay man, I'm glad Jim is here and all but one white gay man and one woman in leadership isn't *that* diverse. Sure, its something, but I find it odd that there's 0 POC in leadership while they profit off of diverse voices in their products, It feels disingenuous


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I just hope Jim is telling the truth when he says "we won't shy away from making decisions that we feel are best for the company and the employees". Aside from recognizing the union, which paizo basically HAD to do considering how large it is, they really haven't done much to win my trust. I don't like being negative and distrusting of paizo but we really haven't gotten anything. Jeff mentioned the whole "changing the hotel room policy" and a few other things without properly addressing allegations but that's about it
I just hope the UPW can bargain with paizo properly and improve things in their workplace and strive to be the best it can be, but that can only be done if paizo is willing to cooperate


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5/6 members of their leadership are white men, 1 is a white woman, and 1 of those men is gay. There are no POC in their leadership positions, that is not very diverse. I'm glad Jim is here now but the current leadership position does not seem to be reflecting paizo's values of diversity, and considering much of these decisions seem to have been made in secret, It doesn't exactly garner trust from those of us who still have yet to hear anything from paizo on allegations of transphobia amongst other things.


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Solidarity and Support with the Paizo Workers Union!


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Sent mine too!!


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The union has been made! I'm hoping for the best from it! 30 members to start is a significant number and many of them are important folks paizo cant afford to lose. I think positive change may be coming if this turns out well

#UnionizePaizo

Good luck everyone, I wish you all the very best and all my support


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Thank you for clarifying Aaron, hopefully we get that official statement soon


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Also I don't mean to say this to sound like a jerk, but how long will we have to wait for them to get back to us with accountability? I understand these things take time but surely it can't take THAT long to communicate with the community? If there is an issue of discrimination against trans employees, I want to know, and I want to see it gone. I don't want the result of that problem, the hotel room incident, to be the only thing to be resolved. The hotel room wasn't the problem there, the transphobia was, and I want to know if paizo plans to properly address that problem moving forward.

I've given you time, I've been patient, and I want to support the amazing products that the creatives at paizo are making, but the longer this goes on the less certain I am that I can continue doing that. I may have to consider my spending decisions if so


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I appreciate the update and the knowledge that more will be coming each month but I wholeheartedly agree with others that I would like for this to be properly addressed and not just swept under the rug. I feel like what Aaron said was mostly just confirmation of what we already knew, which is fine and all, but its not enough to really get at the core of the issue (and others such as Keftiu and TwilightKnight have put it much more clearly and concisely than I am able to at the moment). I want to trust that paizo is not harming or being discriminatory to their trans employees, I want to believe them when they say they are diverse, but right now I'm not sure if I can. Please do better


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yeah, I'm glad that there's *some* silence being broken but I'd like more


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Is it? That's kind of weird...


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"Good luck with your continued brigade"

Honestly that just makes this sound way cooler than it actually is, we're just commenting on a forum but I like the imagery!


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I fully agree with everything Kobold Cleaver and Keftiu have said. Its depressing that we're still not hearing much aside from "we are having internal discussions" even if it may be true. I may not have the energy to keep up with all the transphobic comments for the sake of my own mental health but I wanted to thank the people who are continuing to voice their concerns and do the right thing, hopefully this will result in the positive change we hope to see


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is the map of trade routes on page 188 wrong? It shows Quantium and Dongun Hold as being really far south on Garund when it should be much further up to the northern half of Garund where the rest of the Impossible Lands are.

Otherwise this book is gorgeous and full of amazing work as usual! That little detail just stood out to me


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I hope some more information comes out soon. I understand they're busy shipping out products right now but the longer we go without hearing anything the more nervous I get. Fingers crossed


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Theres two gay male students and one of them is trans! There's plenty of beautiful art as usual and some cool oppurtunities to interact with some Terwa Lord lizardfolk, plus you get to stretch your legs and do some traveling

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