Are they primary or secondary for the dinosaur aspect???
In general, according to the Universal Monster Rules, talons are typically primary.
Interesting...
Is there a way to get wing buffet as a norm pc
Aasimar.
Uh-oh. There's an ooze form spell or set of spells. I would presume that you don't get to turn into a carnivorous crystal ever (or, why not, 19th level). Is Paizo going to reprint (or do they reprint in this book) the cave druid archetype?
Hmm, if they don't reprint cave druid to use ooze form here, I'm not sure where they would. Cave druid is originally in the APG, and I don't see them errata-ing that source with a spell years into the future. And probably a reprint in a Player Companion product is out...
The Ooze Form line turns you into a generic ooze with specific abilities rather than having you hunt through bestiaries. Fey Form spells are more like traditional polymorph spells.
Either won't work. Too high level and or metal armor.
LOL Well you didn't ask for easy, simple or low level.
I should note, full-plate armor can be made with non-metal materials. Bulette Armor and dragon hide work.
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Holding the physical book in my hands! :D
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PS: leafshifter? Missed that one. Leshy archetype?
Ghoran.
Ghoran....
PS: leafshifter? Missed that one. Leshy archetype?
Ah... Even less excited. I could never warm up to the Ghoran.
Does it do anything special?
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Ghoran....
PS: leafshifter? Missed that one. Leshy archetype?
Ah... Even less excited. I could never warm up to the Ghoran.
Does it do anything special?
It’s a very slim archetype. Claws are modified slams, and minor aspects are taken from the plant Hunter archetype. My friend is playing it because all your forms are topiary, and they wanted to be able to turn into Rowlet.
Interesting...
Is there a way to get wing buffet as a norm pc
Only a little earlier than the Aasimar, but there is Powerful Wings
Only a little earlier than the Aasimar, but there is Powerful WingsInteresting...
Is there a way to get wing buffet as a norm pc
It does open up available races. Heck, even non-fliers like tieflings could take it as they can have wings.
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Can one take levels in both Druid and Shifter?
Do they 'stack' for Wild shape?
If one takes Druid initially, then Shifter, does their Wild Shape then get restricted, or is it normal Druid Wild Shape?
If one takes Shifter, then Druid, do the aspects become the much more broad Druidic Wild Shape?
*is trying to figure out ways to make Shifter work for a lot of different creatures, not just a handful and a token 'claw' attack at a reasonable level*
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It does open up available races. Heck, even non-fliers like tieflings could take it as they can have wings.Only a little earlier than the Aasimar, but there is Powerful WingsInteresting...
Is there a way to get wing buffet as a norm pc
For some reason I feel like RAI that is supposed to be locked to races that normally have wings or even a specific race.
Edit: Found it. It's under the Strix Feats section.
Strix Feats
Strix have mastered the art of aerial combat and have
developed unique ways of fighting with their wings.
While the following feats are primarily taken by strix,
other creatures with natural wings can also take them
at the GM’s discretion (including ignoring the racial
prerequisite of Cloak of Feathers).
So you need to at least be a race with natural wings and if you're playing something other than a Strix it's GM discretion.
For some reason I feel like RAI that is supposed to be locked to races that normally have wings or even a specific race.It does open up available races. Heck, even non-fliers like tieflings could take it as they can have wings.Only a little earlier than the Aasimar, but there is Powerful WingsInteresting...
Is there a way to get wing buffet as a norm pc
It says races with natural wings can take them. A tiefling with vestigial wings has natural wings[they were born with them].
I wonder... could a tengu with the Gliding racial take the feat?
Ah, I misunderstood you then. I thought you were saying all races could take them regardless of if they had natural wings.
Ah, I understand your last post now. No, that falls under the Tail Terror FAQ's 'you have to have the limb[s] to use it'.
I had just been making a point that creatures that had wings but couldn't fly could take the feat too, like tieflings and aasimars [without the Angel Wings ] feat.
I wonder... could a tengu with the Gliding racial take the feat?
No, "tengus can use their feathered arms and legs to glide." They aren't called wings. However, there IS a feat called tengu wings.
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LOL I just noticed you can make a traditional anime cat girl for pathfinder now.
Wilding Feat: "Your body might bear animalistic features like beastial ears or a tail."
NOW there is a way for humans to take that tail terror feat. ;)
So it's sounding (at least for me) like my reason for getting this book has changed dramatically.
I was most interested in the Shifter....but from what I have heard that interest has diminished significantly at this point. The Fiend and Lycanthrope Archetype still sound interesting for some character concepts I have in mind.....but the base class seems pretty "Meh"...
The rest of the material was just icing on the cake....but now sounds like the primary reason to purchase the book.
So question....after having a few day's to "digest" the Shifter...do any of you that are disappointed in it feel you were having an initial knee jerk reaction ?
Or are your opinions of it pretty much the same ?
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So far, barring further clarifications, my opinion has worsened, and it's not a good feeling.
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So, is our general consensus "A lot of cool flavor and awesome archetypes but the Shifter class sucks"?
It's a bit beyond that and hard to boil down to one sentence for me?
LOL I just noticed you can make a traditional anime cat girl for pathfinder now.
Wilding Feat: "Your body might bear animalistic features like beastial ears or a tail."
NOW there is a way for humans to take that tail terror feat. ;)
Oh, they could always take it. If you can't attack because your metaphysical hands are full, you can absolutely attack with a metaphysical tail if it's available to attack with.
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Personally, I think the Shifter class can be good at combat if you go with a pounce form. It is hard to be bad at combat if you have Full Bab and pounce. The class also has good flavor and archetypes.
I think most of the complaints are that the shifter is awfully limited in what it can do. It can grow claws, gain a few animal abilities, shape shift into a few animal forms, track... and that's it. It is competing with the fighter to be the most bare bones feeling class in the game.
There were two basic crowds of people who wanted the shifter. Some people wanted a character who was "the best shapeshifter", who could change into everything and shift forms to gain advantages in mid combat. Other people wanted a shapeshifter who focused on a single alternate form, be the *best* at that alternate form, and have a lot of fun abilities to use in that form. I don't think either crowd was satisfied.... partly because there are other classes that can fill both of those roles much better than the shifter can right now.
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Too be honest the fighter actually feels more versatile then the shifter wich saddens me greatly:(
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I'm actually really excited to play one of the Lycanthrope Archetype shifters. It seems pretty good. And hey, Shifter is still fully playable and still miles better than base monk and rogue were.
I'm sure it'll get far better as we get more options and archetypes released for it. So I'm gonna reserve any opinion of the class until a few splatbooks are out.
LOL I just noticed you can make a traditional anime cat girl for pathfinder now.
Wilding Feat: "Your body might bear animalistic features like beastial ears or a tail."
NOW there is a way for humans to take that tail terror feat. ;)
And you can do it as a 1st level human fighter, since Tail Terror is a combat feat.
...expect a nerf of that soon.
So, is our general consensus "A lot of cool flavor and awesome archetypes but the Shifter class sucks"?Cool flavor, meh archetypes, and extremely limited versatility for no reason I can discern. Be prepared to see cookie cutter shifter builds based on Shifter's Edge, agile AoMF, and wildshaping into a dire tiger.
It is, however, playable, and certainly not worse than any other tier 4 class.
Friendly reminder that an Agile AoMF would deactivate Shifter's Edge, as per the incoming errata.
So even less promising than before.
I... picked the wrong book to subscribe on?
So, is our general consensus "A lot of cool flavor and awesome archetypes but the Shifter class sucks"?
Sucks ?......can't say till I see the book and judge for myself....
That said it's clear it is not even close to what I was looking foreword to.....so I'm currently prepared to be less than impressed.
It very much sounds like it's only half baked....
Most of the base classes that have come out have at least triggered a feeling of potential for me, and that potential has grown as new rules elements have been added...
But the Shifter is so far falling so short of what I expected, that it's hard to get overly excited about it.
I would rather see errata to the base class...than a bunch of archetypes trying to fix/make up for failings in the base class.
I'd settle for red dragons hopping in lava to cool off so they don't get heat stroke on hot days.
I always considered being stuck in King Mogaru's stomach as protection. ;)
LOL I just noticed you can make a traditional anime cat girl for pathfinder now.
Wilding Feat: "Your body might bear animalistic features like beastial ears or a tail."
NOW there is a way for humans to take that tail terror feat. ;)
And you can do it as a 1st level human fighter, since Tail Terror is a combat feat.
The inference was that they could take the feat AND it actually does something.
Tiger isnt the best aspect, fyi...
Go Dino!