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I don't have the book, but I haven't seen almost any complaints about the Animist, except that it's complex, which most people are taking to be a good thing. Pretty cool since I remember it being heavily criticized in the playtest. I will concede that the reactions here alongside my initial trepidations means I'll probably skip on this book. Maybe I'll grab it as a pdf in the future when there's a Humble Bundle or something.
You’re a gem! Thx!! And RIP ** spoiler omitted ** Could you or someone else expand on "Dragon Gods"? I have a PC heavily invested into draconic deities.
Ugh, I swear I don't try to stir up arguments on the forums. Most of the time. Can you speak more to Mythic Weapons?
4e was even more granular than that: it also had the critical condition at 25% hp. I don't think most would go so far, but having a threshold of 1/(n+1), with n being the individual creature's level difference with the caster wouldn't be the most arduous solution.
I'm cautiously unoptimistic about what we've heard so far.
For instance, a level 20 non-mythic party, I imagine, beats a level 1 mythic monster. And a level 2 mythic monster. But at some point, that changes. And it seems like that would change before the mythic monster was level 24. So hopefully there's a kind of guidance on where that line, blurry though it may be, is. And to curtail the comments of "only mythic parties should be taking on mythic monsters", it was a commonly recommended path to mythic ascension in 1e that the PCs would defeat a mythic monster at the conclusion of a long quest. So there's plenty of narrative precedent for it.
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the previous level 26-30 creatures were re-balanced to be level 21-25 but with many new Mythic abilities put onto them. Their increased threat level would still exist, but it'd exist under the framework on the PF2E system instead of what they were in PF1E.Yeah, from the various hints devs have been giving that's my impression as well. If Baba Yaga or Varklops are statted in 2E their math will be that of a level 25 creature, not 30. But they'll have rulebending Mythic Abilities that will have the likes of Treerazer going "Wait, you can do what?" Before squishing him like a bug. If a level 25 creature can squish another level 25 creature like a bug, that sounds like a good indicator that the first creature should have a higher level.
I'm interested to see how in the world this system is going to be balanced. Not that original Mythic ever was, but with the tight math being such a selling point of the 2E system, this preview seems to fly in the face of that. Mythic proficiency sounds bonkers, even if limited in scope and number of uses per day.
Firefighting equipment largely protects the wearer from the damaging effects of hot ambient air temperatures. Being exposed to direct open flame is still going to have an impact on the person. Doubly so if we assume (as I would) that dragon flame is hotter than a burning building. Which makes sense, imo, since most fire breath weapons do more damage than environmental fire, but YMMV. If pressed, I'd say the breath weapon does exert a force (how else would the flame escape the dragon's mouth/ throat?), but not so great a force that a living creature won't be able to resist said force and maintain their footing. As has been suggested above, most objects are not fully immune to fire damage. If dealt enough damage to destroy (not break) a wall, it'd go on through and hurt whatever was on the other side of it.
The Diabolic Dragon grows from Large to Gargantuan across the three age categories that have stats.
Every other dragon goes from Large to Gargantuan, while their melee attacks go from:
up to
Except for the Diabolic Dragon, whose melee attack ranges do not change at all.
I dunno, as a player character I've long been ready for meaningless death. It comes with the territory of promoting good through violence.
I think probably partly that comes from a place of having more character builds I'd like to play than chances I'll have to play characters.
As a GM, I try to give character kills more meaning and I will pull a few punches, especially running the earlier PF2 APs.
Cultivator makes them sound more like horticulturists than martial artists, imo.
I mostly feel it in the stat blocks, tbh.
On the one hand, alignment's removal theoretically gives a GM more leeway to use a creature in a wider variety of scenarios, by the other hand requires the GM to select monsters from a larger pool with less guidance. Besides, WRT monster alignment I always considered the listed one as "typical", not absolute (except for fiends and celestials) . So I don't actually buy in to my own point about using a given monster in a wide variety of situations.
Regarding player character alignment, I see no significance since the removal.
The discrepancy has me miffed, I'm not gonna lie. The blog post specifies that hard covers are going to vary in price, based on page count, which is something I can get behind. And Howl of the Wild actually perfectly fits the estimation between their listed price examples. The fact that War of Immortals has the same listed page count and a different price still rankles, however. Especially since it appears to be the only exception to the blog post's projections.
Interesting. The prices for HotW and WoI doesn't perfectly match any of the examples in that blog post. Interpolating from the blog post, does that mean that HotW has ~224 pages, and WoI has ~246 pages? Oh. No, the page numbers are listed on the product page, and they're both 224. HotW matches expectations, but WoI priced higher than was explained as "typical" for its page count.
Was perusing the War of Immortals blog post and when I went to look at the books, I saw a $67.49 price tag, which I'd never seen before.
Sorting rulebooks by price, it became clear that those are the two most expensive non-Special hardcover books right now. The Core series of books are all $59.99. Is this the expected price for hard covers going forward? I was already pretty on the fence about buying HotW and WoI before I noticed the price disparity. Like, $5.00 and $7.50 isn't a lot of extra money. It's just kind of a sentiment thing. "Do I really want to pay more money for a book I wasn't super excited about anyway?" If this is the new price, I'll probably just end up being a little more discerning about which books I end up getting. Times is tough all around. edit: Yes, PDFs exist, but I strongly prefer physical books. So in almost all cases, if I'm interested enough to buy a RPG book, I'm interested in buying a physical one.
Oh man, it's a small shame Crown of the Kobold King was remade prior to PC2. That would be an exceptional place to drop a new heritage, related to the stuff that lives below that tribe.
maybe, and this might get dark, the more mundane the setting, the less... prolific... kobolds get. their young die in their eggs if they are laid in some random, droll, place. so the little guys have to find weird magical locations to keep the species going... darn... that's pretty good! Genuinely, I think the thread is helping me get over my frustrations and look forward. At least the Lore ones, anyway. I want to read about kobolds with weird sources of power.
I finally sat down to categorize the stuff that has changed. Insofar as I can tell, the following feats did not make it in to PC2:
I'm not including the weapon stuff, due to that basically being a universal change for all the ancestries. New feats:
I think this is really the root of my disappointment. This new Operative seems fine for what it is being designed for. It's just that what it's designed for is not very similar to another thing I liked a lot with the same name.Expectations and whatnot.
PF2E on Foundry runs it like this, else I wouldn't have even thought of this as a potential reading either. I was hoping someone would either be able to point me to something that disproves it, explain why this is fine actually, or else call for an errata or something. Sorry, I should have made that more clear in the OP. I'll give it my best: Paizo, please errata the suite of spells to clarify that you only have access to the base movement speed mentioned and lose those you had tied to your base form. Giving the Polymorph trait an errata would probably work, too.Ain't no way it's intended for the Shark to be skeddadling up the shoreline faster than forms which actually have legs.
They're both originally from Golarion, so far enough back they must, right?
Probably Humans and Halflings, too. Elves and Gnomes aren't originally native to Golarion, so likely no commonality there. I wonder about Dwarves, tho. Both from Golarion, but Dwarves were never on the surface.
The fixation on bloodlines and genetics and lineage superiority always felt yucky and weird and made playing a properly arrogant kobold feel incredibly awkward, and making them actually descended from dragons completely missed what I saw as the point of the rumor: That nobody actually believed kobolds about it. Kobolds were the scrappy underdogs, and with very few exceptions, no kobold could really find a way to prove they were technically Tiamat's brood. Making kobolds explicitly draconic as their main Thing totally changed that. It made kobolds much less dynamic. This is precisely the relationship my AoA kobold has with our party. He is convinced about the truth of the Kobold draconic heritage, but nobody else is. They actively call him "lizard" to his face, despite frequent insistence otherwise. That's largely why his overarching goal is to try and prove a link between Dragons and Kobolds, because nobody takes them seriously.And I fully expect Tik will ultimately fail in his goal, but maybe he can get people to take him seriously, if not his species. (Doesn't help that the other Kobolds we've encountered have been wholly incompetent at best and [loveably] moronic at worst)
I would like to present the difference between the old Gloves of Storing and the new Retrieval Belt. While I think if the item in its current incarnation is stronger than the old one, the lack of Worn Belt I suspect to be an error. Every other belt has it so dollars to doughnuts it'll receive an errata at some point. And it'll still be stronger, due to the upgraded versions, but I think that's more reasonable than wearing 10 belts to get the same effect.Though, Buckle Armor exists, so who knows...?
I think this would sit better with me if the Surki didn't give me a similar vibe, released one book prior. Or if they leaned into it way harder with their new heritages and feats.
For context, as a single action with the Attack trait, you attempt a Medicine check vs the Fortitude DC of a target within your reach. Critical Success- The target is either clumsy 3 or stupefied 3 until the end of your next turn. The target is then immune to Surgical Shock for 1 hour. Success- As critical success, but the target is either clumsy 2 or stupefied 2. The rest don't matter, because the question I have is: which one is it? The target is either stupefied or clumsy. Do I get to pick? Do they? Is it random? It's probably meant to be the former, and that's how I would recommend it to anyone. But it doesn't specify.
Genuinely, I am glad that some people prefer the increased flexibility over their previously less flexible, albeit more defined, lore niche. I will just never be among those people. Perhaps if they had always been that way in PF2 I'd feel otherwise, but not much use in speculating about how things might have been different.
I appreciate the validation. The once per round fly speed style feat seems to be somewhat standard in PC2. Both Stormborn Tengu and Dragonblood VH have access to a functionally equivalent feat at level 5, with a 9th level feat for a full fly speed.
I really don't like this decision either since kobold flavor was really cool and its worse now, but that is how you get back what it used to be. My current Age of Ashes character is a Kobold Thaumaturge worshiper of Apsu, whose overridding goal is to better understand the lineage between Dragons and Kobolds. So the divorcing the two hurts. It probably won't much affect the actual game, but the meta knowledge of the remaster change will probably have an affect on me while playing.
Never liked the change to moving Kobolds from little dragon guys to ambient magic sponges. (Didn't we just get Surki for that?) It's another in a long line of making options more flexible at the cost of a concrete identity. I'm rarely a fan, but whatever. I was mostly planning on looking the other way as much as possible and playing my Kobolds largely as before. Finally got a chance to delve into my PC2 this morning. Kobolds can no longer gain a permanent fly speed. They still get access to the garbage Winglets feat at level 5, which is a prereq for the Fly once per turn style feat that is so popular in the flight feat chain they get at level 9 (which the flight capable ancestries get 4 level earlier).
There's no third feat granting access to an actual fly speed, so Kobolds are limited to 1 fly action per round forever. Arguably, access is somewhat easier because there's no heritage requirement, but this change is terrible.
I usually try not to be this rage posty, but it feels like mechanically and thematically my favorite ancestry is no longer what it was, and that's extremely frustrating to me.
SF1 operatives getting 5 levels worth of early access to a typically highly thematic exploit did a lot to engender me to a particular specialization.
Looking to the SF2 Operative:
The actual unique things the specializations grants, the exploits and advanced exploits, are almost all combat-specific abilities. Intellectually I understand the desire to make the operative into more of a striker and shift skills more over to the Envoy, but it feels like this is too far in that direction. It makes the specialization choice irrelevant outside of combat, which feel wrong to me. Two changes I'd like to see for the operative:
2.) A unique, not specifically combat-related, ability somewhat early on. I'm thinking like the 4-6 range. Could be something baked into the base specialization or, I think more likely, actual class feats with a specialization as a prereq. Just something the specialization can get that helps them stand out. Especially outside of changes to the turn-by-turn combat routine.
Also note that for official playtesting, it is requested to not use Pathfinder Second Edition ancestries, backgrounds, classes, equipment, and feats that aren’t explicitly included in the playtest. Huh. That seems to fly in the face of the text in the book, itself: "All of the classes in this book work alongside those in the Pathfinder roleplaying game, and we encourage trying one or more of these classes out alongside Pathfinder classes to see how they work!"I mean, I get the desire to focus the playtest on the new stuff, but why include that line IN the playtest book?
Adrenaline will overcome fatigue for a short duration. As any soldier that's spend 48 hours awake waiting for something to happen and it finally happens. Remember combats rarely even last half a minute. Fatigue is more handicapping to long term awareness and activity. Hence why you are prevented from doing exploration activities.
But as others have said, in PF2 "fatigued" applies more to excessively sleepy tired, not sustained over-exertion tired.
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