Yep. You just add a subscription and your preorder is cancelled automatically.
So i was wondering if anyone knew if this product will be compatible with classes,items ect from pathfinder. Silly question sense it is set in the same world but in the future but i figured it was worth checking. I am also sorry if anyone else has asked this before hand i couldn't see any mention of it then again i was just glancing threw.
I am mostly asking sense i am putting a bit of work now on creating my own world with the races and classes as well as some third party stuff and well having this compatible would be a lot of fun.
Even if not it isn't a huge deal sense i love pathfinder and plan to keep playing it and now have a interesting new thing to look forward to!
I've heard they will not be innately compatible, instead some conversion and tweaking will be required. The game is specifically designed to allow for easy conversion of PF monsters to SF monsters though.
There's going to be a full chapter on how to handle conversion.
August, first day of GenCon. :-)
August, first day of GenCon. :-)
Or you could just say August 17th, like it does up above in the description. :-)
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But my way I get to hype GenCon. :-)
But my way I get to hype GenCon. :-)
In space, no one can hear you hype...
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We will offer free PDFs to subscribers to the Starfinder RPG line. Subscribers will also be able to pick up their August shipment at Gen Con. We'll be announcing subscription details soon; the Gen Con pickup option will be turned on shortly after we ship our July releases. You haven't missed anything yet!
That's great to hear! If we sign up for the sub should we assume that our existing pre-orders for the Core will be taken into account for that, we won't end up with 2 copies? Or do we need to have a word with CS?
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But my way I get to hype GenCon. :-)In space, no one can hear you hype...
We aren't in space yet.
So there's still time to grab your towel. :-)
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We will offer free PDFs to subscribers to the Starfinder RPG line. Subscribers will also be able to pick up their August shipment at Gen Con. We'll be announcing subscription details soon; the Gen Con pickup option will be turned on shortly after we ship our July releases. You haven't missed anything yet!That's great to hear! If we sign up for the sub should we assume that our existing pre-orders for the Core will be taken into account for that, we won't end up with 2 copies? Or do we need to have a word with CS?
We'll take it into account automatically.
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So, there was word that those going to GenCon could pick up their preorder there. Will it be possible for a person to pick up preorders for *other* people, assuming that was done in advance?
So, there was word that those going to GenCon could pick up their preorder there. Will it be possible for a person to pick up preorders for *other* people, assuming that was done in advance?
No.
So, there was word that those going to GenCon could pick up their preorder there. Will it be possible for a person to pick up preorders for *other* people, assuming that was done in advance?
Historically that hasn't been possible. The subscriber has to collect their subscription order in person.
Also, it's usually the case that one can collect subscriptions from GenCon but not preorders. Anyone hoping for a GenCon pickup should ensure they have subscribed to the Starfinder Roleplaying Game line and not just preordered (they also need to do that if they want access to the PDF at no charge).
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So I have been concerningly seeing mention on Paizo Forums that Starfinder won't have the alignment system... is this true, an exaggeration, a lie? Would Starfinder really depart so heavily from the alignment system?
If so, will those who want to keep the alignment system in their campaign still be able to do so and have it continue to play a role mechanically like in Pathfinder proper?
If not, where are some people getting the idea that Starfinder doesn't have alignment and why are they going around saying that Starfinder does not have the alignment system?
The showed some of the deities recently and they still have alignments.
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So I have been concerningly seeing mention on Paizo Forums that Starfinder won't have the alignment system... is this true, an exaggeration, a lie? Would Starfinder really depart so heavily from the alignment system?
If so, will those who want to keep the alignment system in their campaign still be able to do so and have it continue to play a role mechanically like in Pathfinder proper?
If not, where are some people getting the idea that Starfinder doesn't have alignment and why are they going around saying that Starfinder does not have the alignment system?
Starfinder has an alignment system.
Fewer rules interact with in than in Pathfinder, but it's basically the same core system.
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So I have been concerningly seeing mention on Paizo Forums that Starfinder won't have the alignment system... is this true, an exaggeration, a lie? Would Starfinder really depart so heavily from the alignment system?
If so, will those who want to keep the alignment system in their campaign still be able to do so and have it continue to play a role mechanically like in Pathfinder proper?
If not, where are some people getting the idea that Starfinder doesn't have alignment and why are they going around saying that Starfinder does not have the alignment system?
Starfinder has an alignment system.
Fewer rules interact with in than in Pathfinder, but it's basically the same core system.
I'm very wary of this...
I'm very wary of this...So I have been concerningly seeing mention on Paizo Forums that Starfinder won't have the alignment system... is this true, an exaggeration, a lie? Would Starfinder really depart so heavily from the alignment system?
If so, will those who want to keep the alignment system in their campaign still be able to do so and have it continue to play a role mechanically like in Pathfinder proper?
If not, where are some people getting the idea that Starfinder doesn't have alignment and why are they going around saying that Starfinder does not have the alignment system?
Starfinder has an alignment system.
Fewer rules interact with in than in Pathfinder, but it's basically the same core system.
wary that it won't be alignmenty enough or worried that there will still be interaction?
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wary that it won't be alignmenty enough or worried that there will still be interaction?I'm very wary of this...So I have been concerningly seeing mention on Paizo Forums that Starfinder won't have the alignment system... is this true, an exaggeration, a lie? Would Starfinder really depart so heavily from the alignment system?
If so, will those who want to keep the alignment system in their campaign still be able to do so and have it continue to play a role mechanically like in Pathfinder proper?
If not, where are some people getting the idea that Starfinder doesn't have alignment and why are they going around saying that Starfinder does not have the alignment system?
Starfinder has an alignment system.
Fewer rules interact with in than in Pathfinder, but it's basically the same core system.
Of less things interacting with the Alignment system.
Of less things interacting with the Alignment system.wary that it won't be alignmenty enough or worried that there will still be interaction?I'm very wary of this...So I have been concerningly seeing mention on Paizo Forums that Starfinder won't have the alignment system... is this true, an exaggeration, a lie? Would Starfinder really depart so heavily from the alignment system?
If so, will those who want to keep the alignment system in their campaign still be able to do so and have it continue to play a role mechanically like in Pathfinder proper?
If not, where are some people getting the idea that Starfinder doesn't have alignment and why are they going around saying that Starfinder does not have the alignment system?
Starfinder has an alignment system.
Fewer rules interact with in than in Pathfinder, but it's basically the same core system.
My thought process is they probably mean aligned spells primarily. I think their will probably be a lot less of those. probably less equipment that effects specific alignments too (like certain tomes and holy symbols)
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My thought process is they probably mean aligned spells primarily. I think their will probably be a lot less of those. probably less equipment that effects specific alignments too (like certain tomes and holy symbols)Of less things interacting with the Alignment system.wary that it won't be alignmenty enough or worried that there will still be interaction?I'm very wary of this...So I have been concerningly seeing mention on Paizo Forums that Starfinder won't have the alignment system... is this true, an exaggeration, a lie? Would Starfinder really depart so heavily from the alignment system?
If so, will those who want to keep the alignment system in their campaign still be able to do so and have it continue to play a role mechanically like in Pathfinder proper?
If not, where are some people getting the idea that Starfinder doesn't have alignment and why are they going around saying that Starfinder does not have the alignment system?
Starfinder has an alignment system.
Fewer rules interact with in than in Pathfinder, but it's basically the same core system.
I'm going to very disheartened if that's true.
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I'm going to hate it if that's true.My thought process is they probably mean aligned spells primarily. I think their will probably be a lot less of those. probably less equipment that effects specific alignments too (like certain tomes and holy symbols)Of less things interacting with the Alignment system.wary that it won't be alignmenty enough or worried that there will still be interaction?I'm very wary of this...So I have been concerningly seeing mention on Paizo Forums that Starfinder won't have the alignment system... is this true, an exaggeration, a lie? Would Starfinder really depart so heavily from the alignment system?
If so, will those who want to keep the alignment system in their campaign still be able to do so and have it continue to play a role mechanically like in Pathfinder proper?
If not, where are some people getting the idea that Starfinder doesn't have alignment and why are they going around saying that Starfinder does not have the alignment system?
Starfinder has an alignment system.
Fewer rules interact with in than in Pathfinder, but it's basically the same core system.
That is my guess anyways. makes the most sense from a design stand point especially since it seems there won't necessarily be magic titled divine magic (I think you still can say your magic is divine from what I understand) which most aligned spells seem to come from divine magic.
I don't see why that is a negative. I don't like the feel of prot from evil or power word etc for a space game. It might be possible to still migrate those over if that is what you like rysk but I'm just taking shots in the dark. All just guesses.
Yeah that made me a little hesitant too, but I'm definitely going to read through it and play with it a bit. Sometimes things taken out of context don't make sense until you apply them to the whole. I do like a lot of what I've seen so far. I'm not expecting perfection but I think it will be solid and fun to play.
I am sad that Paizo didn't deicide to murder the sacred cow of alignment interacting with rules. Oh well, I guess we'll still have "how many castings of death knell on dying space-chickes do I need to break bad?" threads after all.
Yeah its a weird thing some people look at alignment as Evil and some as good. I'm frankly TN. I don't think it enhances or detracts from my games I don't give it much attention really.
I was kind of hoping for a game that will be free from links between alignment and rules. I like alignment as a quick and dirty guideline for portraying NPCs and not much else. At least, no Paladins this time round!
I like playing paladins but I don't see a place for them in a future society. Good guys with a code sure but not paladins.
Edit: However maybe some sort of cool slightly altered spacealadin. Favored space bike or favored blaster. some sort of space cop/mounty. yes I could play this.
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Well I am not so much worried about spells, as I was long ago converted to how amazing Spheres of Power is as a magic system and use it in all my campaigns, but alignment I very much have concern for.
For myself, having the ideas of good, evil, law, and chaos being objective parts of the roleplay setting has I felt allowed for greater focus on the adventure and story.
So often in RL we argue and debate what is good, what is evil, what is moral, and what is right. Whether it be in politics, philosophy, science, or religion and I personally just don't want to deal with that.
At least not to the same extent. To be able to say this god or goddess is good while this one is evil, that this monster is always/at least generally evil while another is good.
Whether demons, devils, or celestials to be able to say with confidence which one we can trust and which one wont stab us in the back. It simplifies a few things in a system that can already be pretty complex.
It helps to define the characters and the setting, and for that I appreciate the alignment system... even if not everyone can agree what just what alignment is and at some tables it has led to the arguments which I have avoided by discussing and defining that with my players or my DM.
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I happen to be in the anti-alignment camp, so I'm pretty thrilled to hear it will have less impact on the Starfinder interpretation of 3.5 rules.
If Paladins do resurface in some capacity, and they aren't tied to alignment restrictions, I'll finally be able play the concept the system has long denied me: the Evil character who is a Lawful Good person on paper but who is really a brilliant manipulator with a terrible, terrible endgame. The alignment system and the Paladin's class requirements means this character can't exist in Pathfinder without heavy homebrewing and handwaving of many mechanics.
The new system of magic would very much lend itself to this concept as no one would be able to gainsay the Evil one's magic when it looks and functions exactly the same as his Paladin brothers and sisters.
I do not have an inherent problem with Mr. Wilder's desire for simplification for the sake of assumptive background when dealing with a gamut of otherworldly beings of terrible power. My dislike has always been the ease things can be broken when this is forcibly applied to every living thing and spells & magic items are falling off trees that manipulate that system.
If a (by-and-large) static alignment applied only to Outsiders and god-like entities while having no enforceable effect on Material Plane (and other non-aligned Planes), that would be the best of both worlds really.
Very much looking forward to this book, I am really loving the art.
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Please keep the product discussion threads focused. Discussion of your expectations for the system as a whole would be better placed in the Starfinder General Discussion forum.
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Sorry if this has been asked before (there's a lot to sort through) - if you get the subscription, will you get the PDF August 17th, or do you get it when your physical book ships (I won't be at GenCon to pick it up in person)? I just signed up for the subscription and it says "Will be in your downloads once shipped". I was really hoping to get the PDF as early as possible because I'm going to be running a game (my first time GM-ing ever, too), and if I get the physical book and the PDF at the same time, it seems like not much of a bonus/head start. Any help appreciated, thanks.
You receive the pdf when the book is ready to ship your physical copy and your cc is charged. This is generally a few days before the release date.
Will Starfinder have an OGL?
It is being released under the OGL (the same one that allowed Pathfinder to be published).
There is also. a Starfinder Compatibility License that third party publishers can use to produce OGL content which is compatible with it.