Regular purchase means I don't get the free PDF with the physical copy.
That is the same issue that I am having with the Campaign Setting line.
I was told that you might be able to arrange something directly with Customer Service (which you will need to do anyway since you are already a subscriber to that line).
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I have always been surprised at the way Paizo allows people to jump in and out of subscriptions to get discounts on specific items they want, but the fact is... they do... so it seems at least possible that they'd let you split which item(s) the subscription applies to in a month.
OR... you could wait and see if the product you don't want ALSO gets delayed.
If he were not currently a subscriber, waiting until the November shipment is imminent would make sense since there is still a possibility that the two products will not end up shipping at the same time. But since he is currently a subscriber, he already needs to contact Customer Service to cancel his subscription for the product that he does not want -- so he may as well inquire about starting it up again with the following product at the same time.
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Pazio doesn't believe in long term contracts. They just write about them for Asmodeus. ;)
Why is it that the books I get the most excited about are almost always the ones that get delayed? T_T
Vanara are finally getting more support? Oh goody. Fortune-Finder archetype? Hmm sounds a bit rogue-ish which suits me just fine.
I am not happy about the move of release because now it is being released at the same time of another product in the same line that I don't want. So I ether take the hit and get both, wich I can't afford, or I do not buy ether of them.
If it's a budgeting thing, can you buy a gift certificate for the book amount when you can afford it, then redeem it a week or so before it ships to subscribers? When you redeem a gc, it shows up as credit in your account, so wouldn't it be applied to your order when your subscription is billed/shipped for the month?
No, that would be too much trouble besides maybe I will be lucky and they push back the other book to the month after.
Dragon,
If you don't want the book I'll take it! ;)
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I wish catfolk got as much art love as ratfolk.
I wish catfolk got as much art love as ratfolk.
Me too. Cats are cool. Rats? Um, not so much...IMO.
I wonder if you would be able to create Thundercat like cat folk?
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Meeces to pieces!!
Also I like rat folk as they remind me of my OTHER favorite setting, Scarred Lands. :)
Will there be any previews for this one...before it comes out on PDF?
That cover is atrocious. Most of the kitsune's tails aren't even drawn in the right place. /joke
I'm not the biggest fan of the book's theme, but who knows. Nagaji are cool, and maybe they'll have a way for me to skip that silly hybrid thing that they made kitsunes, and just be a shapeshifting fox without needing a +3 BAB.
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maybe they'll have a way for me to skip that silly hybrid thing that they made kitsunes, and just be a shapeshifting fox without needing a +3 BAB.
Department of expectation management: nope.
Pathfinder elves are not the same as Norse elves.
Pathfinder gnomes are not the same as German gnomes.
Pathfinder dwarves are not the same as Norse dwarves.
Pathfinder kitsune do not need to be the same as Japanese kitsune.
That being said, if you give Pathfinder kitsune a chance to be their own thing instead of expecting them to be a copy/paste from Japanese mythology, you might enjoy their section in this book. There's a lot of neat stuff in the kitsune section.
I think 1of1 needs some managed expectations courses.
Also I like the cover. :)
Personally I think kitsune should have the ability at 1st level to turn into a fox.
Personally I think kitsune should have the ability at 1st level to turn into a fox.Yeah, I like that better too... and then have the feat for the 'humanoid fox' form instead. Works out about the same in terms of 'power level'. Could easily be an alternate racial trait.Actually, I made a homebrewed Arctic Fox variant of the Kitsune which only change into a fox.
** spoiler omitted **
Have you been looking through my campaign notes?
Department of expectation management: nope.
Meh, you can't please everyone. Don't worry about it.
Nope, just inspired by the desert fox variant in Wayfinder 12 (IIRC)...and a nature book dealing with arctic fox.
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Are you sure you aren't me?But on a serious note, that kind of thing happens all the time. Idea's are infectious.
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I would prefer more racial feats over racial archetypes.
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I don't get the weird panic over the cramming of seven races into one book. Before we had next to nothing on these races, now we'll get four pages per race. I like that.
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Before we had next to nothing on these races, now we'll get four pages per race.
Before we had at least two pages per race in the ARG, plus anything that might exist in other books. And from that we could easily see that two pages is not enough. Similarly from Blood/Elements we could also easily see that four pages per race is also not enough.
Before we had next to nothing on these races, now we'll get four pages per race.Before we had at least two pages per race in the ARG, plus anything that might exist in other books. And from that we could easily see that two pages is not enough. Similarly from Blood/Elements we could also easily see that four pages per race is also not enough.Blood of the elements only had two pages per race. That book crammed five races into half a player companion. This book is giving each race the amount of content given in the very well-received Blood of Shadows race sections.
I'm going to assume that Paizo's learned from their mistakes with Blood of the Elements, and successes with Blood of Shadows, until I am proven otherwise. Which hopefully - that "proven otherwise" won't happen.
Kim's comments are basically what I would have said.
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I'm grateful for whatever grippli, catfolk, tengu racial information we get! Something is always better than nothing! No complaints here.
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The cover is solid, but I find the presentation of the kitsune quite anime-like. Not sure whether this frightens away conservative players or attracts the expected readers of the book. Maybe both.
I have no personal stake in this - anime isn't better or worse for me. However, I find the depiction of the tengu quite cool.
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It reminds me of the Disney Robin Hood personally. But, I don't watch anime.
I like the cover. :-)
The cover is solid, but I find the presentation of the kitsune quite anime-like. Not sure whether this frightens away conservative players or attracts the expected readers of the book. Maybe both.
I have no personal stake in this - anime isn't better or worse for me. However, I find the depiction of the tengu quite cool.
As for the cover...the tengu is the only one I like. I will leave it at that.
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Well, I'm definitely getting this book.
Insider Secret: Their is a lot of content for each of the races, but like Blood of Shadows there is a lot of content that isn't completely married to the races.
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Is there going to be any fluff, for how each race fits on Golarion? It sounds like the original description focused more on that, but the updated version is all about the crunch. I hope there is a lot of mechanical stuff for the various races, but I also hope the fluff didn't get dropped altogether.
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Is there going to be any fluff, for how each race fits on Golarion? It sounds like the original description focused more on that, but the updated version is all about the crunch. I hope there is a lot of mechanical stuff for the various races, but I also hope the fluff didn't get dropped altogether.
From my recollection (which may have changed post-development), its about the same as Blood of Shadows. If yo thought Blood of Shadows had good flavor, you'll probably like Blood of the Beasts.
Now, I can't speak for anyone at Paizo but I personally think that the Player Companion line works better when it offers players mechanical abilities that they can use to build their characters with. Information about the races is Campaign Setting information, ergo, the greatest source of it should be found in the Campaign Setting line.
That's why it is my hope that Blood of the Beast will be popular enough to make a "[Region] Races" book possible. Inner Sea Races has four-page spreads for the Core Races. If we could get a 64 page Campaign Setting Guide that expands upon Inner Sea Races in the way that Inner Sea Faiths built upon Inner Sea Gods, you're looking at roughly 60 pages of content (an opening page, an OGL page in the back, and we'll estimate two pages of introductory material). That would leave room for up to 15 races, or perhaps 10 races with 20 pages of supplementary content, like feats, magic items, character traits, and alternate racial traits.
If you want to know more about additional races in Golarion (any non-Core race, really), then I'd say that making this book sell —really— well needs to be a priority of yours. New Bestiaries don't get made because people flood the forums with wish lists—they're consistently well-received and sell well enough. Make this book sell extraordinary well and I guarantee that it will cause a chain reaction of PC race content.
Blood of Shadows is one of my favorite releases as of late, so that's a great indication. I also really loved the work on Legacy of Dragons (though I found it less exciting in terms of mechanic balancing and development).
Getting the books in my country takes a million years so knowing that Blood of Shadows is the guideline here makes me more confident to have my store order me a copy.
Blood of Shadows is one of my favorite releases as of late, so that's a great indication. I also really loved the work on Legacy of Dragons (though I found it less exciting in terms of mechanic balancing and development).
Getting the books in my country takes a million years so knowing that Blood of Shadows is the guideline here makes me more confident to have my store order me a copy.
I am glad that I could help alleviate some of your concerns, then. Here's hoping you like the product when it comes out. :D
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Finally got my "Pending" email...which means PDFs should become available sometime next week.
Finally! Eager to see this stuff.
Augh!
- November ??: Wayfinder Bestiary releases
- November 8th: 2016 Election
- November 16th: Blood of the Beast PDF (finally!) available for non-subscribers
- November 21st: The Grand Tour premieres on Amazon
Anyone know when the print version becomes available at retailers like Books-A-Million?
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Anyone know when the print version becomes available at retailers like Books-A-Million?
Street date is November 16, however book distributors usually do new releases on Tuesdays whereas paizo sets its street dates for Wednesdays, so it may not be until November 22 that it shows up in bookstores (more info on the dates thing here). Amazon and Books-A-Million both seemed to have delayed it a further week to November 29, possibly to ensure they have enough stock at hand before starting to ship it out (based on checking each of their websites for what date they listed for the book).