Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Inner Sea Races (PFRPG)

Oh by the way the best thing in this book by far is a Golarion specific
reincarnation chart.

Which they just previewed in a blog.

The original intent of the book was to pick up some of the older content in the older books and update it to Pathfinder RPG's current rules... but be it a miscommunication or a change in the outline or whatever, that ended up not being the case. As a result, as far as I know, all of the new rules mechanics in the book are indeed new, and as such, the rules mechanics and options in the older 32 page race books were not reprinted.

Somehow, I'm sure we'll all live with the change. :-)

Oh by the way the best thing in this book by far is a Golarion specific

reincarnation chart.

Which they just previewed in a blog.

As a giant fan of reincarnation, that was one of my favorite things in the book. ^_^

John Kretzer wrote:

Oh by the way the best thing in this book by far is a Golarion specific

reincarnation chart.

Which they just previewed in a blog.

As a giant fan of reincarnation, that was one of my favorite things in the book. ^_^

Oh I hadn't noticed the reincarnation table yet! That's fantastic. My group frequently uses reincarnation, especially at the lower levels, and especially especially for favorite NPCs who happen to die. We'll be using this new table next week, in fact!

Cool! Glad folks dig the reincarnation table. That was a last minute addition by me to fill some empty space on the page—another thing (like the fix to regional languages for non-humans) I've been looking for a long time for a place to get into print.

Cool! Glad folks dig the reincarnation table. That was a last minute addition by me to fill some empty space on the page—another thing (like the fix to regional languages for non-humans) I've been looking for a long time for a place to get into print.

It is a thing that I wished TSR/WotC would have done for Greyhawk, or FR, or Eberron, etc.

So I was really overjoyed to see it here.

EErrr....wait a minute...the PDF price is $31.99 ???
That's got to be a mistake :(

it's a hardcover campaign setting book...its not in the rules line or considered vital for running a game in the pathfinder campaign setting (like the hardcover Inner Sea book)

But is there something good for human ethnicities somehow linked to winds/storms/mountains ?

EErrr....wait a minute...the PDF price is $31.99 ???

That's got to be a mistake :(

It's the same 30% off that most Paizo PDFs are.

The spell Fleshwarping Swarm (page 220) has an unexpected detail. It functions as per Summon Swarm, but creatures that fail their Fortitude save against the swarm's Distraction ability also take some penalties for an hour per caster level.

The unexpected detail is that this penalty can apply to Undead, which historically do not even have to attempt a Fortitude save against Distraction.

Thoughts?

Pity that there is no "fix" for starting ages.

Chet : Undead are unaffected by things requiring a Fort save. Or did I wrongly understand the problem ?

Chet : Undead are unaffected by things requiring a Fort save. Or did I wrongly understand the problem ?

The spell specifically says that living or undead that fail their saves against the swarm's distraction ability suffer the additional penalty. It's... weird.

nighttree wrote:

EErrr....wait a minute...the PDF price is $31.99 ???

That's got to be a mistake :(

It's the same 30% off that most Paizo PDFs are.

I thought it said something like $15.99 just a few days ago....

Ross Byers wrote:

nighttree wrote:

EErrr....wait a minute...the PDF price is $31.99 ???

That's got to be a mistake :(

It's the same 30% off that most Paizo PDFs are.

I thought it said something like $15.99 just a few days ago....

Given It doesn't really seem to even touch on any of the races I'm interested in....I may just pass.
That's way to steep for a PDF.

That is an industry standard price for a PDF.

The Core Rules PDFs are discounted because they're the core rules assumed for the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game. The Inner Sea World Guide is the core setting material assumed for the Inner Sea campaign setting. Both Inner Sea Gods and Inner Sea Races use the standard pricing adjustment because they're not core setting material and they're not core rules.

At any rate, I started subscribing to the Campaign Setting line to get the PDF free with this product. There might still be some time for you to do the same.

I subscribed for the same reason. The value was too much to pass up. ^_^

Yeah I also subbed to Campaign Setting for the first time because of the awesome one-two punch of a races HC plus Distant Shores. Free PDFs rock.

James Jacobs wrote:

The original intent of the book was to pick up some of the older content in the older books and update it to Pathfinder RPG's current rules... but be it a miscommunication or a change in the outline or whatever, that ended up not being the case. As a result, as far as I know, all of the new rules mechanics in the book are indeed new, and as such, the rules mechanics and options in the older 32 page race books were not reprinted.

Somehow, I'm sure we'll all live with the change. :-)

To be honest, I was kinda looking forward to not having to buy all old race books x'D I do love the new stuff but still

(also, I was hoping reprinting might mean new chance for those two cut items I've mentioned twice, but I guess that wouldn't have been reprinting anyway :'D)

Anyway, wait, where was new reincarnation chart previewed?

Anyway, wait, where was new reincarnation chart previewed?

Pazio Blog titled Inner Sea Races Rules For Every Race (or something like that). You can find a link if you look to the right of this page.

Ah, thanks. i did notice that blog, but didn't notice the picture

Do they describe the cultures of the humans outside their home regions? For example, how Taldans outside Taldor differ from their cousins, Chelaxians outside of Cheliax , Varisians in Ustalav(who are very much more settled than the Varisians in Varisia), etc?

Do they describe the cultures of the humans outside their home regions? For example, how Taldans outside Taldor differ from their cousins, Chelaxians outside of Cheliax , Varisians in Ustalav(who are very much more settled than the Varisians in Varisia), etc?

They touch upon it, but not in great detail.

There is also no guidance for humans of two (or more) ethnicities - such as the child of a Garundi father and Cheliaxian mother.

Chet : Undead are unaffected by things requiring a Fort save. Or did I wrongly understand the problem ?

Yep. That is the problem. The spell lists an affect that Undead receive if they fail a save that they are not allowed to make. I am hoping a designer / editor will explain the intent.

Well I was a little disappointed in the fact they left out a very important race that has more impact with many cities and trade than even orcs. GNOLLS! and what of lizard men and there varients (gecko, chameleon, monitor, ect...), and even ogerkin?

Well I was a little disappointed in the fact they left out a very important race that has more impact with many cities and trade than even orcs. GNOLLS! and what of lizard men and there varients (gecko, chameleon, monitor, ect...), and even ogerkin?

1) Gnolls aren't 0-Hit Dice races. Inner Sea Races follows the same coverage rules as the Advanced Race Guide.

2) Although its not Golarion specific, gnolls were covered heavily in last year's Monster Codex. With that said, the Monster Codex's information is the assumption for how gnolls act in Golarion.

Question for those that have ISR:

Do skinwalkers have a languages? In Blood of the Moon, Skinwalkers don't have a language entry in their racial traits. It is easy to assume that they speak Common as their only free language, but do they get any bonus language for a high Int score?

Thanks in advance.

Question for those that have ISR:

Do skinwalkers have a languages? In Blood of the Moon, Skinwalkers don't have a language entry in their racial traits. It is easy to assume that they speak Common as their only free language, but do they get any bonus language for a high Int score?

Thanks in advance.

No they still get common plus bonus lang. based on int.

Am I the only subscriber that has not received this yet? It said it was shipped on Sept 17th but it has not been delivered yet.

Well, as an European, I can tell you that you're most likely not the last to have it in hand physically.
Mine was apparently shipped on 9/11, but I only have the PDF as of today.

1) Gnolls aren't 0-Hit Dice races. Inner Sea Races follows the same coverage rules as the Advanced Race Guide

Actually they are now and they came from. ARG:

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/other-races/more-races/standard-races-1-10-rp /gnoll-6-rp

Which is good as they should of never been a lvl adjustment race to begin with. (Of course if it was up to me they would of been a core race cause gnolls are awesome)

At least they aren't broken as hell like humans ^-^

At least they aren't broken as hell like humans ^-^

Humans are broken?

And, you are incorrect. The eight Core Race should have bee KOBOLDS because they are awesome!

The eighth Core Race should have been KOBOLDS because they are awesome!

Right there with you good sir.

*Facepalm* I just love it when players demand races as pcs that npc populace would generally rather see dead. I hope the GM actual role-plays those scenarios/encounters.

Humans, broken?! Are you certain you aren't thinking of tieflings and aasimars?

I am really looking forward to the in-depth human ethnicity information in this...

*Facepalm* I just love it when players demand races as pcs that npc populace would generally rather see dead. I hope the GM actual role-plays those scenarios/encounters.

Humans, broken?! Are you certain you aren't thinking of tieflings and aasimars?

You do realize that is part of the appeal, right? xD

And there is reason why humans make for best builds for almost all of the classes ;)

Am I the only subscriber that has not received this yet? It said it was shipped on Sept 17th but it has not been delivered yet.

It's a crap shoot. Mine was shipped last Tuesday, I think, and I just got it today. Except for two items (two classic flip mats) shipped in two separate packages a day or so before the books and card decks which I haven't seen yet.

Humans, broken?! Are you certain you aren't thinking of tieflings and aasimars?

Absolutely certain.

*Facepalm* I just love it when players demand races as pcs that npc populace would generally rather see dead. I hope the GM actual role-plays those scenarios/encounters.

Humans, broken?! Are you certain you aren't thinking of tieflings and aasimars?

I am really looking forward to the in-depth human ethnicity information in this...

Not my fault most NPC populaces then are racist...speciesist?...But gnolls are a 'civilized' part of certain regions like Katapesh. So it's not like you would NEVER find one walking down a street. I have 3 in Pathfinder alone that I enjoy playing and they fit so well in to the party and story.

As far as mechanical brokenness of the human race? I've barked up that tree on other threads, tl;dr it's part of what Corvus said...among other things....racial heritage...*eye twitching*...best FC bonuses...

As far as Tieflings and Aasimars in the long game/campaign/ap are well balanced in comparison to a human. As long as I've played I've only seen one player in our group make a really powerful Tiefling, and she did it so the other people at the table would take her seriously. But even then what made her character terrifying could of been done with a human.

Under 20 ARG RPs the human race is king of the builds,book support and the cheese.

And, you are incorrect. The eight Core Race should have bee KOBOLDS because they are awesome!

No! They should take the place of Halflings! Cause they are certainly cuter. ^-^ /jk

I do like Kobolds as well though, defiantly a top ten race in my book.

Does the book have information the alien races' lifespans?

Do fanglords skinwalkers still get a charisma bonus when shifting instead of a physical one?

Does the book have information the alien races' lifespans?

Do fanglords skinwalkers still get a charisma bonus when shifting instead of a physical one?

Not really.

Yes.

I am really exceedingly happy about the Arcadia fluff. :D

(five thousand years!)

Cruel Illusion wrote:

Does the book have information the alien races' lifespans?

Do fanglords skinwalkers still get a charisma bonus when shifting instead of a physical one?

Not really.

Yes.

Oh. This is unforunate. :(

Kalindlara wrote:

Cruel Illusion wrote:

Does the book have information the alien races' lifespans?

Do fanglords skinwalkers still get a charisma bonus when shifting instead of a physical one?

Not really.

Yes.

Oh. This is unforunate. :(

Unless you want to demoralize or feint. :3

Leave the brute force to the unfortunate nonfeline creatures. A cat knows there are many ways to get what it wants...

A swashbuckler would also be fine with a temporary Charisma bonus... although the social penalties would be kind of a downer.

A permanent bonus would be much more useful though, what with the penalty on social rolls wen transformed and the advantage for charisma-based spellcasting.
As is, the benefits are kind of circumstiancial.

In theory, since the transformation has no listed duration as of Inner Sea Races... if you stay transformed for more than 24 hours, you might be able to treat the bonus as permanent. ^_^

In this book, are there different racial configurations for the races that have different stats? i.e. dwarves with +INT and/or elves with +WIS?

What are the "must haves" in this book, if any?

I'd like to repeat this request from two weeks ago:

Can we please get a lite version of the PDF, similar to Inner Sea Gods and the Inner Sea World Guide?

There is an issue with this PDF (as was with, for example, the non-lite Inner Sea World Guide PDF) that, when viewed on Mac OS X or iOS, the background pattern is displaced to the bottom left which makes for weird looking pages. Here's a link to see how this looks on my iPad. All pages look like that, and it's the same with the non-lite Inner Sea World Guide PDF.

I'm having a problem with this passage from page 183:

"Strix are neither particularly prolific nor long-lived, which keeps their numbers low. A strix couple might have only two children, and many pairings remain childless, ensuring they cherish every member of their society. Such makes each death all the more devastating."

That's not "low numbers," that's "rapid extinction spiral" leading to "why are there still strix at all?"

Rapid extinction spiral how? That seems to describe many Western modern humans. Among Western modern humans, a couple might have "only" two children, and many pairings remain childless. I'm not seeing much of a rapid extinction spiral.