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This book got moved to the Player Companion section of the website. Is this book still a Campaign Setting book or is it now a Player Companion?


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F. Wesley Schneider wrote:
Rysky wrote:
Hmm, I wonder if it will have anything on the Order of the Crux...
REJOICE! This will have more details on ALL of the Hellknight orders that you want!

OOOO, so will there be stuff on the Order of the Vice?

Either way, looking forward to this book since Hellknights and Eagle Knights share the top spot in my list of favorite Golarion Factions(with the Shackles pirates coming in a close second).


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F. Wesley Schneider wrote:

Also, this is the first time we've ever experimented with a 96-page campaign setting.

We're very interested in hearing what people think about the format, price, and size.

Since this book will be 96 pages, will we still be seeing a Player's Companion book for March? I only ask since no new player companion book was announced along with the other products.


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Woot! Looking forward to this book and hopefully more Besmara info.


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Do they describe the cultures of the humans outside their home regions? For example, how Taldans outside Taldor differ from their cousins, Chelaxians outside of Cheliax , Varisians in Ustalav(who are very much more settled than the Varisians in Varisia), etc?


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As long as we can spend some time in Versex(in Ustalav) and maybe even revisit Carrion Hill, I will be happy. Here is to hoping we finally get the Blood of the Alien/Mythos book I been hoping for.


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I thought Alain's alignment was Lawful Neutral?


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the xiao wrote:
and wasnt Erasmus the name of the son of Doctor Van Richten?

Yep, just looked it up in my 2nd edition books.


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Do Humans get one section, or do each of the human ethnicities get a section?


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If we don't get at least one location in Ustalav, I will be sad.


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A thread on another forum got me thinking of some setting questions for the Shackles:

1. Is there "traditional" buccaneers in the Shackles?(Like the ones who hunted wild cattle and pigs on Hispaniola in the Caribbean)

2. The Shackles seem to have all the Human ethnicities represented on the islands with the understandable exception of the land locked Kellid. Is it possible for there to be some Kellid tribes in the Shackles, perhaps descending from Taldan and Chelish slave plantations?


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I view this as a chance for people being able to play Hellknight characters that mesh well with the themes of an AP.


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I guess this is where we will see the Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Cheliax book. I wonder what iconics they will use for Hell's Vengeance, since I only know of one outright evil iconic.


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Well, all my guesses were wrong. The next AP after Hell's Rebels is Hell's Vengeance. Evil PC AP.


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Next hardbound book is Ultimate Intrigue, supposedly with a new class called Vigilante.


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Wait, new class called vigilante?


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Ultimate Intrigue is what caught my eye.


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From Twitter, the new hardback for fall is Bestiary 5.


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So, any news on this?

http://icv2.com/articles/news/view/31210/paizo-strikes-deal-gob-tux

It was a couple of months ago and I have not found anything on the Paizo website dealing with it.


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My three guesses:

1. Nex and Geb
2. Taldor
3. Absalom

Based on comments earlier that this was an AP Erik Mona wanted to do over an occult themed AP, if I am remembering the post correctly.


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Here is to hoping we get a NPC Codex 2 with the Base, Hybrid, and Occult classes.


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I hope there is some stuff on mystery religions and how they relate to the Gods. Would be cool to have esoteric religions of the Golarion deities, especially Pharasma(who is pretty esoteric to begin with), Gozreh, Shelyn, and Zon-Kuthon.


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Really looking forward to this book. Henchman and cohorts have always been one of my favorite part of D&D since I started back in the 90s.


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Nohwear wrote:
For me the popularity of the keneticest is a bit of a turn off. There is also something about the occultist that just clicks with me.

Not a fan of the kineticist class, but then I never had the pleasure of watching the Avatar series. The occultist class, much like the bloodrager class from ACG, just clicked with me. I like the fluff concept of the occultist. Didn't really care for the other classes, but since I watched Insidious last night, I am starting to dig the Medium.


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Cayden Cailean, being the god of freedom and all. Runner up would be Iomedae.


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As long as the stuff in this book is a good fit for Carrion Hill, Versex, and Ustalav in general, I will be happy. Would be great to see the Starsoul bloodline for Bloodragers end up in this book.


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Huh, no bloodrager and shaman archetypes. I assume they get other stuff, like new bloodlines and/or hexes.


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Glad to see my favorite nation is getting a campaign book. Looks like all flavors I like(Numeria, The Shackles, Ustalav, and now Andoran) have been covered. I appreciate the fluff to crunch ratio for the previous books, since I usually convert them over to D&D(originally 4E, now 5E).


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I stand corrected on Caliphas in Rule of Fear. After checking my bookshelf, Caliphas did get a article in the AP Carrion Crown.


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Anorak wrote:
Agreed, Dragon78. Also I am not happy that Starfall, Capital of Numeria wasn't included. Instead as GM, I have to purchase Pathfinder Adventure Path #89: Palace of Fallen Stars, which is frustratingly inconvenient. It should have been in the Campaign setting much like Whitethrone was included in Irrisen and Kalsgard in Lands of the Linnorm Kings or Sothis in Osirion Campaign Setting. Yeah, frustrating to say the least.

Yeah, Paizo does this with a lot of their major cities. Kalsgard only got a small paragraph in Lands of the Linnorm king. The major write up was in the Jade Regent series. If I remember correctly, Caliphas was also very small in Rule of Fear, with most of the info in the Carrion Crown AP.

I suppose in the long run it allows more words to be written for the setting, since the capitals can get articles in the adventures, leaving room for more fluff in the campaign books.


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doc the grey wrote:
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Anything good on Chesed?

OMG!!!!!!

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There's absolutely nothing good about Chesed.

There is fun stuff though. Don't be mad at me though. It is the job of fans to spoil.

Jim is just kidding you. Chesed actually has one of the most positive things in all Numeria: A support group for scarred and traumatized soldiers and crusaders returning from the Worldwound. They're making a real difference, and their doctors are the best in the area.
Just a wild guess from teasers I read on another website, but would said support group be staffed by Kytons?

** spoiler omitted **

Seriously. I have veteran friends who are into Numeria and I'm torn as to whether I would want to run that whole plot line for them or let them read it and run one themselves. That whole narrative is SOOO GOOD but so dark and heavy I would slap a warning label on it before I walked anyone through it. Otherwise you are probably either asking for trouble or just running it wrong.

Kytons are my favorite outsider, but what cinches it is "gnomish batman". Ah well, still got a month before I get my hard copy. Looking forward to mining it for my future 5E game.


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Ezakim wrote:
Jim Groves wrote:
Starglyte wrote:
Anything good on Chesed?

OMG!!!!!!

rubs hands together

There's absolutely nothing good about Chesed.

There is fun stuff though. Don't be mad at me though. It is the job of fans to spoil.

Jim is just kidding you. Chesed actually has one of the most positive things in all Numeria: A support group for scarred and traumatized soldiers and crusaders returning from the Worldwound. They're making a real difference, and their doctors are the best in the area.

Just a wild guess from teasers I read on another website, but would said support group be staffed by Kytons?


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Jim Groves wrote:
Starglyte wrote:
Anything good on Chesed?

OMG!!!!!!

rubs hands together

There's absolutely nothing good about Chesed.

There is fun stuff though. Don't be mad at me though. It is the job of fans to spoil.

Nice. Strange enough, its my favorite part of Numeria though from what little was said of the city before, it might be the "least" Numerian in theme.


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Anything good on Chesed?


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Love the cover. :)


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Switching to 5th edition. Once the Numeria AP is done, I will stop buying Pathfinder for the near future.


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I really hope this is not an early April fool's joke. :*(

I had given up hope on an alien player guide for Iron Gods when People of the River was announced. <Crosses fingers for some human-alien hybrids>


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Hopefully the technomancer prestige class is not just for NPCs.


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Will there be another AP with all female iconics, like what you did with Carrion Crown?


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Hoping for a Psychopomp bloodline myself.


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We know that souls can be sent to Hell and the Abyss without going through Pharasma by ritual sacrifices, various demon abilities and certain evil spells, but how do angels snatch souls to be taken to Heaven without going through Pharasma's judgement?

There is some mention in the Carrion Crown AP about deathbed confessions that bring down the wrath of psychopomps, but nothing beyond that.


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I thought for sure the July book would of been a "Technomancer's Guide" or something along those line.


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How is the worship of Desna in Numeria different from Varisia? (Especially since Numeria has more ties to Outer Space)

What Oracle Mysteries would be appropriate for a Numerian high priest of an UFO religion to have?


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Cool, I hope we get some info on Chesed and its people.


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I would love to see a Bloodrager Archtype and/or bloodline tied to the aliens from the crashed ship.


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I asked a question on what happened to the survivors of the crash and it was mentioned that it was a plot point.

Speculation: Maybe the Androids are the rebuilt survivors of the crash. That would explain why they are human in appearance and why they have souls. Their souls could of been "saved" by the ships computers (or other futuristic device) and then imprinted onto androids when they are built. How this would tie into the Iron Gods themselves, I do not know. Would be interesting to see an Android Cleric to one of the Iron Gods.


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Will the Iron Gods in the Numeria AP get a religion article?

You mentioned in another thread that the Star Mount was a human ship. Would the decedents(assuming there were any survivors) of the extraterrestrial humans still maintain a separate culture from the local Kellid tribes or have they all been absorbed over the millennia?


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James Jacobs wrote:

The kasatha will play a relatively important role, particularly in 2 of the 6 adventures of Iron Gods.

The ship itself is NOT a kasatha ship; it's a human ship. And it's from somewhere other than the kasatha homeworld

Where it's from, including the name of the ship and MUCH MUCH MORE will be revealed in Iron Gods. We'll hint about it here and there in the Numeria book... but the full juicy details will be in Iron Gods.

It would be cool to be able to play the decedents of the humans from the crashed ships. Assuming over the millennia they haven't been completely absorbed by the local Kellid tribes.

Speculation: I can see an Iron Gods campaign trait that hints that your character's family might be of human extraterrestrial origin.


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Been rereading the Numeria entries in the campaign setting books. Will be interesting to see what alien factions are behind the scenes of the different Kellid tribes. Great place for a Bloodrager with the aberrant bloodline. Odd enough though, the area I am most interested in learning more about is Chesed. Largest city in Numeria and a dock city to boot.


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The part about mastering the tech of "an ancient alien empire" intrigues me. I wonder if we will get hints on what empire they are talking about. Maybe Dominion of the Black?

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