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The real question I hope they answer in this book: If elves and orcs are both genetically compatible to breed with humans, then how come you never see elf/orc half breeds without a human involved?Maybe that's where humans came from in the first place, a elf/orc pairing...
One of these days, I'd love to some setting actually seriously follow through with that notion. :)
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I can assure everyone that the book will approach its subjects from numerous points of view, and that most of the folks who have posted their hopes for the book will likely be pleased by some of the points of view presented in the book. These races have often received short shrift in the past (and even here they need to share the spotlight), and we're going to do the best we can to make sure we do justice to them.
This is really reassuring. :)
Yeah! I can't wait for this book. Paizo please let there be an official version of a Half-Giant. I'll be so freaken' BUMMED if there isn't something on them...
Elves, humans, and orcs constitute a ring species cline.
I am utterly excited to see this book. Some of my most favorite times roleplaying was with a Half-Gnoll Cleric of Orcus. As for the name I just figured it was meant as a play off the original 3.5 book "Bastards and Bloodlines" so I saw the title and immediately thought halfbreeds oh yay!
"Bloodlines of Golarion" yeah that would be a great title for a sorcerer themed book. Now that is something I would like to see get made.
If this was a UK forum then 'bastard' would be censored in the same way that 't*+%', 's@!&' and 'wanker' would be.
Er, no. Not necessarily. It all depends on context. Automatic censoring page scanning apps may delete the word/post from some types of public/commercial channels, such as a banking forum etc.
If it's a manually moderated channel, then it depends on context. For example, if someone said "You're a f****g bastard" then this would most surely be censored/deleted. However, if someone said "the son of George the Second was considered a bastard" than this probably wouldn't be.
It all depends on context.
"Bloodlines of Golarion" yeah that would be a great title for a sorcerer themed book. Now that is something I would like to see get made.
I'd buy this one too. I'd LOVE to see more information on how sorcerers get along in Golarion and how people react to the various bloodlines and so forth.
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Beyond belief - 210 comments on a product and 80% are about the use of the word "Bastard". Surely we should be focused on the content of the upcoming book, not its title (which seems linguistically accurate to me). Apart from Half Elves and Half Orcs, what other "half breeds" (for those with a sensitive disposition) will be be seeing in the new tome? Half Janni? Half Devils? - we've had quite a bit on Half Demons in Demons Revisited - will we get Half Angels?......come on, lets focus on whats in the book!!
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Beyond belief - 210 comments on a product and 80% are about the use of the word "Bastard". Surely we should be focused on the content of the upcoming book, not its title (which seems linguistically accurate to me). Apart from Half Elves and Half Orcs, what other "half breeds" (for those with a sensitive disposition) will be be seeing in the new tome? Half Janni? Half Devils? - we've had quite a bit on Half Demons in Demons Revisited - will we get Half Angels?......come on, lets focus on whats in the book!!
On the Paizoboards? Never!
If this was a UK forum then 'bastard' would be censored in the same way that 't*+%', 's@!&' and 'wanker' would be.Er, no. Not necessarily.
Not at all. Bastard is an established acceptable word by the auto-filter.
Otherwise The B(*^$*(s of Erebus would have been a more confusing AP volume.
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I'm not sure of the Linguistic accuracy of the term. Wouldn't that imply that all bi-racial (in this case race taking the Pathfinder connotations) were unmarried and so the children illegitimate?
And so as to derail the topic of conversation back onto the book itself, I wonder if there will be any other half races that aren't half-fiends or half-celestials (both of which are covered to some extent in the revisited line and the appropriate "Blood of" books).
It seems highly unlikely to me that Paizo will start introducing half-dwarves. or Gnomelings.
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Bastards of Golarion sounds like a really awesome grindhouse movie. A group of hard-boiled CN adventurers thirsty for revenge against the evil empire that left them for dead.
"They should have Coup-de-Grace'd us when they had the chance. Now we're coming. And all nine hells are coming with us."
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The Half-Orc Paladin NPC from the Wrath of The Righteous: The Worldwound Incursion if a child from union like that.
I did not think it was a major spoiler as it does not effect much in the way of the AP...and alot of discussion about that NPC's current relationship people did kinda lost sight that she is the product of a happy and loving relationship between a orc and a human.
Halflings?
Ifrit, Oread, Sylph, Suli, and Undine?
The goal of this book is to represent half-elves and half-orcs as well as any other characters that might be considered "bastards" (using a truncated form of the second definition from this dictionary: "Something that is of irregular... or dubious origin"). This is not limited solely to characters of half-human, half-other origins such as half-elves, aasimars, or changelings—the aim is to serve characters of particular backgrounds as well as races. (...social outcasts...)
I should clarify that a fair amount of this book is still very much about half-elves and half-orcs (about half). The rest of the space in this book is shared between rules and info for other half-human characters and rules and info for characters whose backgrounds are the only things that tie them to the concept of being a bastard/outcast/"other."
Are we getting half halfings and half grippli?
Nope.
Are we seeing true races or one off couplings?
True races, with some room for developing some of your own kinds of unusual characters (with your GM's help/approval).
Will i finally be able to update my Dwelf to pathfinder?
Probably want to use the Race Builder in the Advanced Race Guide for that endeavor. :P
Will Changelings be included in this book ?
will we get anything on ogrekin?
Yes.
any half-celestials
Yes.
Will Changelings be included in this book ?
Yes.
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Will Changelings be included in this book ?Yes.
.....eeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE--!!
*head explodes*
Will Changelings be included in this book ?Yes......eeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE--!!
*head explodes*
Starting a domino effect among the customer base....eeeeeEEEEEEE(boom)
I hope there are options for Night and Storm Hag changelings :)
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Will Changelings be included in this book ?Yes......eeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE--!!
*head explodes*Starting a domino effect among the customer base....eeeeeEEEEEEE(boom)
I hope there are options for Night and Storm Hag changelings :)
And options for them to gain abilities based on what race their father was!
What exactly is going to be added for Aasimar and Tieflings that Blood of Angels/Fiends didn't deliver?
What exactly is going to be added for Aasimar and Tieflings that Blood of Angels/Fiends didn't deliver?
Some game balance, hopefully :P
Yeah spectrevk, I agree, they are too weak, they need to be as strong as humans and dwarves;)
Nah, we just need the specific stats for Dwarven-Aasimar and Dwarven-Tieflings.
None of that 'watered down to have the same stats as Human-Aasimar and Tieflings' crap.
Well Quandary if you DM, or you can convince your DM to use the point system in the ARG to alter an Aassimar to have some dwarven racial traits/abilities.
Are we there yet? I am very much looking forward to this book. I have been a fan of half-elf characters since OD&D.
will we be getting more information and racial traits for half elves of drow descent?
will we be getting more information and racial traits for half elves of drow descent?
You betcha!
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Anything on Mongrelmen?
Yep.
Uh oh, better be careful in regards to how much hype you start up, Pat, lest Bastard's forum page erupts with disappointed customers who didn't realized that a book that highlight's everything can't possibly focus on all of those things too. ;-P
Personally, I'm expecting small blurbs on each topic like what we saw in Faiths and Philosophies.
What about Huarizo?
Haha, I wish!