
magnuskn |

"Level range" as in which span the adventure occurs, normally 1st through 4th level. But, checking other APs, you guys are actually right, as in that normally only the starting level is mentioned in the product blurb. I guess I am used to seeing the second module immediately and knowing until which level the first module went. So, sorry, for the confusion.

Psiphyre |

Ah, but you see, we have mythic levels complicating what the level range might be. Has the Mythic Adventures book been sent to the printer yet? If not, there could still be some final revisions to the rule content, which could influence the final level range of the first volume of the adventure path.
Just a thought...
Carry on!
-- C.

Jim Groves Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 4 |

Level ranges are going to be harder to predict until each chapter is received and actually developed. Here's why: mythic tiers allow parties to fight tougher bosses. Tougher bosses equal more experience points, which in turn mean faster level gains.
You might find each chapter is slightly off traditional level ranges, leaning towards being higher. In fact I am certain of it. They're probably playing it safe, so no one calls them on it later.

Amber Scott Contributor |
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Thank you, everyone! Yes this is my first AP and while I'm no stranger to long, complex projects, an AP installment was certainly a dragon of a different color. The Paizo team gave me a tremendous amount of support and guidance, as always, and I think this series is going to be amazing. Can't wait to see it in print!!

Liz Courts Webstore Gninja Minion |

Kevin Mack wrote:So who are the Iconics for this AP?and will there be mythic icons?
I think you can probably count on Seelah's sword being in this AP...If she's not, I'm going to go downstairs and pout at Jacobs's door.
Whether they will be mythic or not remains to be seen, though.

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James Jacobs wrote:I'm assuming that the mythic adventures won't overun the standard AP. ARe we likely to look at 1 of each per year or will mythic paths be a little more scarce than this?Shalafi2412 wrote:Will there be info on how to play it sans mythic?Yes, but doing so will require a fair amount of work on the GM's part, I suspect. The advice on how to "un-mythic" it will probably consist of a sidebar's worth of advice in each volume. That may change as I get into the development... but this adventure path is very much one of the main reasons why we're doing Mythic Adventures in the first place, not the other way around.
James Jacobs posted that they will wait for feedback on Mythic and the Mythic AP before deciding to do it again.
Because the APs are planned far in advance, the next two after Wrath of the Righteous cannot be mythic.
It's on the Ask James Jacobs thread.

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Woah, now that is a way to start a campaign with a bang. And the next modules will probably be even more epic. Or should I say, mythic?
I see no level range has been given in the summary. Innnnteresting.
Starts at level 1.
We're still solidifying how level progression and the addition of mythic content works out, but my GUESS is that by the end of this one, the PCs will be 6th level and mythic tier 1.

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James Jacobs wrote:I'm assuming that the mythic adventures won't overun the standard AP. ARe we likely to look at 1 of each per year or will mythic paths be a little more scarce than this?Shalafi2412 wrote:Will there be info on how to play it sans mythic?Yes, but doing so will require a fair amount of work on the GM's part, I suspect. The advice on how to "un-mythic" it will probably consist of a sidebar's worth of advice in each volume. That may change as I get into the development... but this adventure path is very much one of the main reasons why we're doing Mythic Adventures in the first place, not the other way around.
At this point, both Adventure Paths for 2014 are locked in, and neither one of them are Mythic adventure paths. They MIGHT have a mythic monster here and there, but that's no different than us picking up content from any of our core books to use as appropriate in an Adventure Path.
If the Mythic Rules end up being REALLY popular and if folks love Wrath of the Righteous's mythic elements, the earliest we'll really know that is close to the start of 2014 anyway, at which point the earliest we could get another mythic adventure path up and running would be sometime in 2015.
In the long run, in other words, they may become more common, depending mostly on their popularity, but for the short term, Wrath of the Righteous is it for mythic adventures through 2014 at the minimum.

magnuskn |

magnuskn wrote:Woah, now that is a way to start a campaign with a bang. And the next modules will probably be even more epic. Or should I say, mythic?
I see no level range has been given in the summary. Innnnteresting.
Starts at level 1.
We're still solidifying how level progression and the addition of mythic content works out, but my GUESS is that by the end of this one, the PCs will be 6th level and mythic tier 1.
AWESOME! :D

magnuskn |

So do cocky Cavaliers and their egotistical horses.
(Damiel is the alchemist :))
Yeah. :( And I noticed right away and deleted the post and of course the board had one of those horrible slow-downs it always gets and bleagh.

Erik Freund RPG Superstar 2011 Top 16 |

We're still solidifying how level progression and the addition of mythic content works out, but my GUESS is that by the end of this one, the PCs will be 6th level and mythic tier 1.
Zowie, that's a going to be a lot of rules real quick. I thought the Mythic rules implementation were an admission that the 3.5-style "Epic" rules were too much numbers. I was looking forward to mythic-style feel-and-play without having to deal with the headaches of high level. Usually, I can get to book 4 of an AP until the game slogs. Now it looks like this one will cap out much sooner for me. :-(

Axial |

Would it be feasible to play as a Cleric of Asmodeus or prestige into a Hellknight in this campaign? Given the history of the conflict between Hell and the Abyss (the Blood War isn't really a part of the Pathfinder setting, but the Devils and Demons are still described as not getting along very well), it would make sense for a Chelaxian/Devil-worshipping character to have a vested interest in slaughtering demons.

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Would it be feasible to play as a Cleric of Asmodeus or prestige into a Hellknight in this campaign? Given the history of the conflict between Hell and the Abyss (the Blood War isn't really a part of the Pathfinder setting, but the Devils and Demons are still described as not getting along very well), it would make sense for a Chelaxian/Devil-worshipping character to have a vested interest in slaughtering demons.
I suppose.
There's not a lot of Hellknight action in the region at all, but there might be a few. And while there are some worshipers of Asmodeus fighting against the Worldwound demons, those who are closely associated with Cheliax actually kind of don't mind the fact that the demons are diverting attention from the "good guys" away from Cheliax...

Evil Midnight Lurker |

Axial wrote:Would it be feasible to play as a Cleric of Asmodeus or prestige into a Hellknight in this campaign? Given the history of the conflict between Hell and the Abyss (the Blood War isn't really a part of the Pathfinder setting, but the Devils and Demons are still described as not getting along very well), it would make sense for a Chelaxian/Devil-worshipping character to have a vested interest in slaughtering demons.I suppose.
There's not a lot of Hellknight action in the region at all, but there might be a few. And while there are some worshipers of Asmodeus fighting against the Worldwound demons, those who are closely associated with Cheliax actually kind of don't mind the fact that the demons are diverting attention from the "good guys" away from Cheliax...
In the long term, though, isn't getting rid of the Worldwound in Asmodeus's best interests? What happens to Rovagug's prison if the Abyss "eats" Golarion?

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Enlight_Bystand wrote:Correct, they normally always have a provisional starting level on them. Which was left out completely for this module. So I find that interesting.magnuskn wrote:That's not unusual for these mockup descriptions. They normally only have a (provisional) starting level on them, updated once they've gone to the printers.Woah, now that is a way to start a campaign with a bang. And the next modules will probably be even more epic. Or should I say, mythic?
I see no level range has been given in the summary. Innnnteresting.
This isn't the final description, we won;t get that till this issue is written and/or when the final cover is revealed.

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Axial wrote:Would it be feasible to play as a Cleric of Asmodeus or prestige into a Hellknight in this campaign? Given the history of the conflict between Hell and the Abyss (the Blood War isn't really a part of the Pathfinder setting, but the Devils and Demons are still described as not getting along very well), it would make sense for a Chelaxian/Devil-worshipping character to have a vested interest in slaughtering demons.I suppose.
There's not a lot of Hellknight action in the region at all, but there might be a few. And while there are some worshipers of Asmodeus fighting against the Worldwound demons, those who are closely associated with Cheliax actually kind of don't mind the fact that the demons are diverting attention from the "good guys" away from Cheliax...
James, I just don't get that last bit about "good guys". Don't buy into that Taldorian or Andoran propaganda; we are the good guys!
Anyway, I'm really excited about this... a Worldwound AP at last! YES! Perhaps Numeria will be next? :)

Axial |

Axial wrote:Would it be feasible to play as a Cleric of Asmodeus or prestige into a Hellknight in this campaign? Given the history of the conflict between Hell and the Abyss (the Blood War isn't really a part of the Pathfinder setting, but the Devils and Demons are still described as not getting along very well), it would make sense for a Chelaxian/Devil-worshipping character to have a vested interest in slaughtering demons.I suppose.
There's not a lot of Hellknight action in the region at all, but there might be a few. And while there are some worshipers of Asmodeus fighting against the Worldwound demons, those who are closely associated with Cheliax actually kind of don't mind the fact that the demons are diverting attention from the "good guys" away from Cheliax...
But if the defense of the Worldwound were to fail, then Cheliax (along with the rest of Golarion) would be overrun by hordes of demons. Queen Abrogail wouldn't be very happy about that.
Eh, I just think it would be kind of cool to have a devil-follower as a "Token Evil Teammate" in a campaign that's about fighting demons.

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In the long term, though, isn't getting rid of the Worldwound in Asmodeus's best interests? What happens to Rovagug's prison if the Abyss "eats" Golarion?
Who are we to second-guess what Asmodeus's best interests are?
And Rovagug's prison is more complex than "just the core of the world."
And if the Worldwound "wins," it doesn't necessarily "eat" Golarion anyway.
Anyway, questions that'll need to wait until January 2014 for answers in the Wrath of the Righteous Continuing the Campaign article.

Kajehase |

It means the characters will have six character levels, and one mythic tier.
Read the playtest document for the mythic rules and it'll make perfect sense. :)

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We don't have many demonic minis in the PF line (3 by my count), can we expect one of the major upcoming minis sets to be supporting Wrath of Righteous? :D :D
We'll be doing more minis of demons now and then, but the ordeal of doing the Shattered Star set at the same time we were writing and developing that Adventure Path (even though the minis just came out recently... we started working on them before we even assigned the first adventure to an author) was harrowing and frustrating. We're unlikely to try that again anytime soon, so there isn't going to be a Wrath of the Righteous minis set coming out anytime soon.

RuyanVe |

can we expect one of the major upcoming minis sets to be supporting Wrath of Righteous?
You mean, like in the upcoming PF AP mini series supporting this AP?
EDIT Ninja'ed and corrected.(including the first of six demon lords that will be presented during the campaign!)
Will this be the flavor from the SD AP plus stat blocks using Mythic Rules?
Ruyan.

magnuskn |

Man, going to level 20 ( which I assume this AP will do ) will make deciding between Reign of Winter and this AP quite difficult for my players. On one hand, two of them want to play paired witchhunter Inquisitors ( based more than just a bit on the Hansel and Gretel: Witchhunters movie ), but on the other hand, they have been asking for a full 20 level campaign since I started running Paizo APs. Oh, well, their decision.

zergtitan |

Man, going to level 20 ( which I assume this AP will do ) will make deciding between Reign of Winter and this AP quite difficult for my players. On one hand, two of them want to play paired witchhunter Inquisitors ( based more than just a bit on the Hansel and Gretel: Witchhunters movie ), but on the other hand, they have been asking for a full 20 level campaign since I started running Paizo APs. Oh, well, their decision.
Reign of winter will be a better choice due to the fact they will have a lot more use of their abilities then in wraith of the righteous. Winter has alot more witches them Wraith does.

zergtitan |

I should probably clarify that I didn't necessarily mean the Witchhunter Inquisitor archetype, but rather that their character focus will be on hunting witches. ^^
I see, then it an probably work in both campaigns but you will find a lack of witches in the wraith campaign where in winter, you will face a witch right in the first adventure and have a witch as the BBEG.