Lisa Stevens
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Lisa Stevens wrote:Do you know when we might be seeing some more previews for this?I got my physical first bound in on Friday, so I know the books are finished printing. Now for the long voyage to the U.S.
Lisa
No idea. I stay far, far away from any decision making on what goes into the daily blog. I am usually as excited as the rest of you when I open my blog on a daily basis to see what's going on!
-Lisa
Gorbacz
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question:
amazon says it will be released untill july 9th
and here says may 22th...i want to buy it from amazon!!
is theyre date wrong?
Well, get ready for some major frustration and constant shifts of release dates. Amazon is notorious for getting RPG books with hefty delays.
| Chikahiro |
I've never bought an "Ultimate" book before - how are they in general? Some of the things here remind of stuff I've seen in other games and like, so this might be something I'll get...
Thanks for the PDF version as well; I just got back into paintball, so its nice to know I can still get this within my budget :)
archmagi1
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I've never bought an "Ultimate" book before - how are they in general? Some of the things here remind of stuff I've seen in other games and like, so this might be something I'll get...
Thanks for the PDF version as well; I just got back into paintball, so its nice to know I can still get this within my budget :)
The Ultimate books are generally about 1/2 full of mainline rules and 1/2 full of optional rules and add-ons. Ultimate Magic had Words of Power, Ultimate Combat had piecemeal armor and chase rules.
| Lucent |
In my personal opinion, the Ultimate books have been fantastic and each one I've purchased has greatly expanded the options for my players and led to nothing but enjoyment at the table.
I only wish there was more support for Words of Power from Ultimate Magic, because I love the versatility and mix/match function of that system. Wordcasting is very unique and flavorful!
| David knott 242 |
I suspect that the retraining rules in Ultimate Combat will be the section most invoked by people who have no use for most of that book. I say this without having seen those rules -- but I know from experience with other games how the ability to change past character choices could affect a game.
You have noticed that there are all these feats that have useless prerequisite feats? Now you will be able to wait until you pick up the second feat in the chain before you swap out another feat for that useless first feat.
Deanoth
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David,
If you have a pre-req feat that is part of a chain of feats. You can't swap out one of the so called useless ones that are first in the chain without disrupting the chain and not being able to use the latter feats then. So if you take two feats.. the first one being useless in your opinion and the second one being the one you want. Then remove the first feat and swap it for another makes the second feat no longer able to use.
Beckett
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I've never bought an "Ultimate" book before - how are they in general? Some of the things here remind of stuff I've seen in other games and like, so this might be something I'll get...
Thanks for the PDF version as well; I just got back into paintball, so its nice to know I can still get this within my budget :)
Its a point of contention really. Some people really liked them and some people felt really disappointed by them, particularly UM. UC has a lot of Monk material for example and is often refered to as Ult Monk. Generally UC is better liked than UM, but its all a matter of opinion.
| thejeff |
David,
If you have a pre-req feat that is part of a chain of feats. You can't swap out one of the so called useless ones that are first in the chain without disrupting the chain and not being able to use the latter feats then. So if you take two feats.. the first one being useless in your opinion and the second one being the one you want. Then remove the first feat and swap it for another makes the second feat no longer able to use.
Other way around, I think.
Take some unrelated good feat to start. Later when you qualify for the feat you want from the chain, swap the first feat out for the first feat in the chain and qualify for the second.In the end you still wind up with the useless feat, but you don't have to spend early levels with only the useless feat.
| judas 147 |
those books are not so valuable. in UM the best is the magus class, then the feats, then the spells.
oh and theres a place where you can take some spellbooks but not so cute.
the rules here (power words, spell Duels/Blights are so incomplete)
in UC there is the gunslinger, ninja and samurai (this one is the worst of all the 21 classes/subclasses in the wholy game)
and for the extra rules... piecemeal armor comes with a lot of flaws.
There are feats, and spells good enough.
oh and in boths are filled with archetypes, some useables and some space eater.
My rate for them
UC 3/10
UM 5/10 (without the magus 3/10)
| Sean K Reynolds Designer, RPG Superstar Judge |
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I encourage you to go to the Ultimate Combat and Ultimate Magic product pages on paizo.com and check out all the reviews.
| Chikahiro |
I encourage you to go to the Ultimate Combat and Ultimate Magic product pages on paizo.com and check out all the reviews.
...that's.... that's... so blaringly obvious... *d'oh*
I would suggest that if there's a way to sort by reviews (I try to ignore the 1-stars and 5-stars), that'd be an awesome addition for later.
Also wishing I had this now, before I start a new game with a new player! D'oh! Oh well :)
| Azaelas Fayth |
Azaelas Fayth wrote:You can easily redo the Words of Power to make it better.I don't think they need to be "better", per-se, I just think it would be nice to see more options. Prestige classes, more feats, wordcaster items and the like would all be welcomed.
That is what I meant by Better... I just couldn't decde how to word it...
Like mine I redesigned it for use with a Final Fantasy Setting. So you have simple but profound effects.
Such as an Electrical Magic Attack that also inflicts a Poison Effect.
| Alexander Augunas Contributor |
Sean K Reynolds wrote:I encourage you to go to the Ultimate Combat and Ultimate Magic product pages on paizo.com and check out all the reviews....that's.... that's... so blaringly obvious... *d'oh*
I would suggest that if there's a way to sort by reviews (I try to ignore the 1-stars and 5-stars), that'd be an awesome addition for later.
Also wishing I had this now, before I start a new game with a new player! D'oh! Oh well :)
In my experience, it isn't the one-star and five-star reviews you necessicarily want to avoid. Its the reviews that are only a couple of incoherent sentences. There are 5-Star reviews by some top-quality reviewers out there!
And oh man, I so VERY much want to see what Paizo has done with the Young character rules. I'm super hoping that it expands on the Age Category rules and doesn't just say something like, "Here's a template for you!"
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And oh man, I so VERY much want to see what Paizo has done with the Young character rules. I'm super hoping that it expands on the Age Category rules and doesn't just say something like, "Here's a template for you!"
That's actually exactly what I'm hoping they do. And that the template is all-negative (or that the benefits are relatively minor, like diplomacy boosts or something).
It sounds bad when I say it like that, but what I'm hoping is that it's never advantageous to be a child in a dangerous situation. Adults (age 15+ for humans) should just be better than children, in my opinion. Of course, even if it's entirely disadvantageous, players could still elect to play children, just as you're allowed to play an amputee if you really want, or use less than your point buy.
Stratagemini
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Looking at the description I noticed that there are rules for starting a magical Academy. I remember playing Skyrim and becoming the Archmage of Winterhelm without ever casting more than 10 spells total.
It makes me wonder, Will a fighter be able to start up a Magical Academy?
Oreofox
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I am definitely looking forward to this book. My players just cleared out a nearly damaged tower, and were thinking of rebuilding it as their base of operations. And this book should help with that. Went back to look at the old WotC Stronghold Builder's Guidebook, and put it back on the shelf. Definitely difficult to wait for.
Oreofox
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zergtitan wrote:I wonder which iconic they will use to represent a youth adventurer in this book?I'm hoping they do no a non-human character. Anyone can picture a human kid; let's get some art for some non-human kids. Youth Harsk could be awesome.
Honestly, it is rather easy to picture most of the races in the CRB as children, as they are all basically human in appearance. Though the half-orc inquisitor iconic would be interesting to see as a kid. And I will admit, I would like to see Paizo's take on a dwarf child/youth.