Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Inner Sea Bestiary (PFRPG)

I am definetly wondering were in the innersea region do the Lashunta live and how they got there.

I am happy to get to see some more spawn of Rovagug. Wich reminds me, are all the spawn magical beast?

A new (improved)familiar option is cool, is it an outsider?

Will any of the 0HD races be a creature type other then humaniod or outsider?

Other then the Lashunta is there anything else mentioned in Distant Worlds that some how made it's way into the Innersea region and this book?

I am definetly wondering were in the innersea region do the Lashunta live and how they got there.

I am definetly wondering were in the innersea region do the Lashunta live and how they got there.

I am happy to get to see some more spawn of Rovagug. Wich reminds me, are all the spawn magical beast?

A new (improved)familiar option is cool, is it an outsider?

The book just got annoucned. It's still being written, in fact, and is several weeks away from entering development. As such, a lot can still change. And more to the point, a lot of these types of answers are things that we'd rather save for previews in blog posts... whether or not we actually have the time to DO such a blog post later on being largely irrelevant at this point.

So... answers for most of these kinds of questions will have to wait for several months.

That said, I can indeed confirm that all of Rovagug's spawn are magical beasts.

Kajehase wrote:

Dragon78 wrote:

What is a capering monkey goblin?

Like regular goblins, but more inclined to think in three dimensions.

I cannot believe that I am seeing those two words in the same sentence.

So all of Rovagug's spawn are magical beast, cool.

Duh, should of thought of that fact about Castrovel and it's other native species.

Well of course it is several months away, so I gues I got a little over zealous because it is monster related.

Any chance of an additional spawn? Would provide a fresh threat for the world and make it seven total so I would be able to match em up with the 7 deadly sins in my campaign. ;) A hulking quadruped with a mountain crushing horn perhaps? I mean, Rovagug would want you to let another out out.

Got other plans for Yamasoth later in the year.

Maybe as part of a Shattered Star supplementary article you would pen?

: )

Yamasoth info in the the Shattered Star AP that is a possible place unless James in talking about a as of yet named product.

Maybe by next year sometime we might have stats for all Rovagug's major spawn and maybe some of the "minor" ones.

I'm guessing AM BARBARIAN is one of the minor spawns.

Will there be dinosaurs? everyone loves Dinosaurs! Custom Magical Beast Dinosaurs? Unique to the world of Golarion?

Will there be dinosaurs? everyone loves Dinosaurs! Custom Magical Beast Dinosaurs? Unique to the world of Golarion?

Nope.

Mostly because the bulk of the monsters in this book are brand new things invented specifically for Golarion.

** spoiler omitted **

There'll be plenty of more opportunities, I suspect.

Nix Tharel wrote:

** spoiler omitted **

There'll be plenty of more opportunities, I suspect.

Ohhhh, I feel a Nirmanthas AP in the way!

Does this mean we might get a Tian Xia Beastiary, or Distant Worlds Bestairy?

Does this mean we might get a Tian Xia Beastiary, or Distant Worlds Bestairy?

I'd speculate that depends on how well it sells and how well it is received (and reviewed). The excitement in this thread about a small-format, more specific Bestiary format makes me optimistic.

Does this mean we might get a Tian Xia Beastiary, or Distant Worlds Bestairy?

Perhaps...

We'll see.

Let's shoot bigger! Bring on the Casmaron Bestiary!

Dragon78 wrote:

Does this mean we might get a Tian Xia Beastiary, or Distant Worlds Bestairy?

Perhaps...

We'll see.

I would get it

MerrikCale wrote:

so we are getting a Bestiary 4

Note that this book does NOT replace "Bestiary 4." We could well still do a "Bestiary 4" at some point in the future.

BUT! Having it come out at about the same time as the NPC Codex was intentional. Folks who would rather have more monsters at that time will have an option.

rather have a bestiary 4...now you have to come up with 64 more pages of monsters before that happens.

Well since there are 46 monsters in this book so you would need 5-7 of these books just to equal the number of monsters in a hardcover Bestairy.

I would rather have both this and Bestiary 4 but that isn't going to happin this year.

Well since there are 46 monsters in this book so you would need 5-7 of these books just to equal the number of monsters in a hardcover Bestairy.

I would rather have both this and Bestiary 4 but that isn't going to happin this year.

Personally, I'd rather the NPC codex if only because humanoids are much more time consuming to stat up on your own and there isn't many of them. Considering that there are already hundreds of monsters out, I'll take the small Bestiary in favor of the NPC codex.

Plus, I still haven't gotten to use an ooma in a game yet. No more Bestiaries until I get to use the whale ... IN SPACE! first, please. :D

I wouldn't say no to Bestiary 4. It's always fun to spring a Monster that your PCs don't know on them and have them struggle to figure out how to kill it (the answer is usually fire, Unless it's fire Immune, in which case the answer is "Plane Shift it to the Plane of Fire"). I keep Holding out for some sort of Giant Panda Monster (Giant panda being the animal, not the size, the black and white bear, not a giant red panda).

I don't Suppose there are any Panda Monsters in the inner sea bestiary?

Two Spawn of Rovagug??? Kickass!! My guesses for the active ones are Volnagur the End Singer and Chemnosit the Monarch Worm. Do I win?
Anyways, put me up as one of those who will definitely pick up this book. Any chance we'll get revised versions of the heralds that appeared in APs 1-24? Even if not, I'm still getting this just for the world ending terrors within...

I wouldn't say no to Bestiary 4. It's always fun to spring a Monster that your PCs don't know on them and have them struggle to figure out how to kill it (the answer is usually fire, Unless it's fire Immune, in which case the answer is "Plane Shift it to the Plane of Fire"). I keep Holding out for some sort of Giant Panda Monster (Giant panda being the animal, not the size, the black and white bear, not a giant red panda).

I don't Suppose there are any Panda Monsters in the inner sea bestiary?

True! But until we get a new Bestiary, just reskin the current monsters with your description. Scares them every time! ;)

Any chance we'll get revised versions of the heralds that appeared in APs 1-24? Even if not, I'm still getting this just for the world ending terrors within...

Unless I'm reading the description wrong, all the monsters will be brand new/never before statted. It'd be nice to have those old heralds Pathfinderized, but I don't think this is the book where it'll happen.

In the 2nd Ed. days, I loved world-specific monster compendiums. I would love to see Great Beyond Bestiary and Distant Worlds Bestiary and Numeria Bestiary... Great thing with Golarion is that all those places can support their own games, but they are still a part of a greater whole.

I would love to the heralds for the 20 main Gods/Goddesses in one book someday. But not in this book since there all suposed to be new.

Dragon78 wrote:

Does this mean we might get a Tian Xia Beastiary, or Distant Worlds Bestairy?

Perhaps...

We'll see.

Might there be a bestiary for Golarion-specific monsters that have only been written up for 3.5? There's still a bunch of un-updated critters.

I think the BLIGHTed fey template sounds like something I would expect from the DARK imagination of Russ Taylor, but perhaps I'm just reading too much into it. :)

::cough cough, raises hand:

:D

But the original idea for the Blighted Fey hails from the Inner Sea Campaign book. Pages 140 and 141.

But I added a side order of Lords of Chaos!

And yes, folks, we got some vermin for ya. Promise.

Cool critters that serve as advanced spellcaster familiars too. edit: I see James commented on this already. Yes, at least one, but I wrote two. They're not normal critters, and are worthy of the Improved Familiar Feat

Shuttin' up now. I just wanted to share in the excitement.

Bear in mind, everything I just said is subject to redaction, and developer change. I will say no more after this, other than I am excited too!

Given that these creatures are made specifically to fit on Golarion, I'm curious if the creature names (and other flavor text) will be made Open Game Content?

That is, if a third-party publisher wanted to use a lashunta stat block in one of their books, would the name "lashunta" be available to use?

Obviously existing Product Identity (e.g. Rovagug, Golarion, etc.) won't be open - I'm just curious about new monster names and descriptions.

Two Spawn of Rovagug??? Kickass!! My guesses for the active ones are Volnagur the End Singer and Chemnosit the Monarch Worm. Do I win?

Anyways, put me up as one of those who will definitely pick up this book. Any chance we'll get revised versions of the heralds that appeared in APs 1-24? Even if not, I'm still getting this just for the world ending terrors within...

We won't be printing a single herald in this book. They're not really appropriate for the book, if only because the've already been statted up—ALL of the monsters in this book are brand new, stats-wise. Or more to the point... they're MORE appropriate for an entirely different kind of book.

Cool critters that serve as advanced spellcaster familiars too. edit: I see James commented on this already. Yes, at least one, but I wrote two. They're not normal critters, and are worthy of the Improved Familiar Feat

Yeah... turns out that on closer inspection to the original source, one of those two is actually the size of a crocodile and so there'll be a bit of development adjustments going on there. The result of which = no longer a good choice for familiar, alas.

Given that these creatures are made specifically to fit on Golarion, I'm curious if the creature names (and other flavor text) will be made Open Game Content?

That is, if a third-party publisher wanted to use a lashunta stat block in one of their books, would the name "lashunta" be available to use?

Obviously existing Product Identity (e.g. Rovagug, Golarion, etc.) won't be open - I'm just curious about new monster names and descriptions.

They're open game content. We've done the same for the monsters that appear in Pathfinder Bestiaries.

That said, the FLAVOR text of these monsters won't be open content. If you want to use lashuntas in your third-party product, they can't be from Castrovel. You could make them denizens of a weird cloud city or planar creatures or even elf-replacements... or anything else... but their specific story role in Golarion is closed content.

But the original idea for the Blighted Fey hails from the Inner Sea Campaign book. Pages 140 and 141.

But I added a side order of Lords of Chaos!

Technically, the original idea for them came from my monster entry in the first year of RPG Superstar :) Then they made it as a side mention in the Campaign Setting courtesy of Jason Nelson (thanks!).

Jim Groves wrote:

But the original idea for the Blighted Fey hails from the Inner Sea Campaign book. Pages 140 and 141.

But I added a side order of Lords of Chaos!

Technically, the original idea for them came from my monster entry in the first year of RPG Superstar :) Then they made it as a side mention in the Campaign Setting courtesy of Jason Nelson (thanks!).

My pleasure. I was writing the Nirmathas section, and it seemed like a good place to drop them.

There were a few other Superstar creatures seeded around the Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting here and there as well. I haven't combed the Inner Sea World Guide to check which are still there vs. those subsequently removed, but it seems the Darkblight at least made it through, and are now blossoming to terrible blighted stat-block-life under the careful tilling of the esteemed Mr. Grooves!

Yeah... turns out that on closer inspection to the original source, one of those two is actually the size of a crocodile and so there'll be a bit of development adjustments going on there. The result of which = no longer a good choice for familiar, alas.

I can't remark further publicly, but I was the one that actually brought that to your attention myself. Yet... it's not that simple. The creature is a rare one in that it can vary from Tiny to Large, depending if it is encountered in captivity or in the wild (i.e. that is what the source material specifically says when I read it over a couple times). So I tried to account for that. We'll see if you approve. Sorry, I won't contradict you again in public. :)

Technically, the original idea for them came from my monster entry in the first year of RPG Superstar :) Then they made it as a side mention in the Campaign Setting courtesy of Jason Nelson (thanks!).

My pleasure. I was writing the Nirmathas section, and it seemed like a good place to drop them.

There were a few other Superstar creatures seeded around the Pathfinder Chronicles Campaign Setting here and there as well. I haven't combed the Inner Sea World Guide to check which are still there vs. those subsequently removed, but it seems the Darkblight at least made it through, and are now blossoming to terrible blighted stat-block-life under the careful tilling of the esteemed Mr. Grooves!

Aaaaah! My apologies Russ!

I wished I'd known that, I would have liked to look at your original write-up. Everything I wrote was based on the Inner Sea Guide, flavored by a few remarks from James. I would have liked to have seen your original vision for them. Now I'm nervous. Must forget!

@ Russ - Found it! Fascinating! Significantly different in some ways, but definite parallel thinking in other respects. I mean the differences I expected, but the similarities genuinely surprise me.

James Jacobs wrote:

Yeah... turns out that on closer inspection to the original source, one of those two is actually the size of a crocodile and so there'll be a bit of development adjustments going on there. The result of which = no longer a good choice for familiar, alas.

I can't remark further publicly, but I was the one that actually brought that to your attention myself. Yet... it's not that simple. The creature is a rare one in that it can vary from Tiny to Large, depending if it is encountered in captivity or in the wild (i.e. that is what the source material specifically says when I read it over a couple times). So I tried to account for that. We'll see if you approve. Sorry, I won't contradict you again in public. :)

No worries!

But this is a good example of why it's best to resist temptation and not talk about the contents of a book too much before it's published—it's why I often try to be cagey or obscure in my answers since sometimes, something might get cut from a book or otherwise change.

The kaiju template is a great example of this—it's something that we had in an early version of Bestiary 3, and mentioned it in an early bit of ad copy or something, but then when we got to developing it... I realized that it's fundamentally not possible to do a 2 page kaiju template that would live up to my standards and so I cut it from the book.

Understood! Silence is golden!

I realized that it's fundamentally not possible to do a 2 page kaiju template that would live up to my standards and so I cut it from the book.

Someone takes his kaiju seriously! :)

Eventhough the book isn't finalized, is the number of monsters set in stone at 46?

Eventhough the book isn't finalized, is the number of monsters set in stone at 46?

Absolutely not.

It's possible one of the monsters we have scheduled to be a 1 page entry just has to be a 2 page one, and in that case we might cut a monster in order to make things work.

It's possible that we get a piece of art in at the last minute and it's completely unusable, at which point we'd cut that monster from the book and pick another monster to "graduate" into a 2 page monster.

It's possible that a monster we've currently got scheduled to be a 1 page entry is a lot simpler than we anticipated, allowing us to do two stat blocks on that page and thus gaining 2 monsters.

And so on.

Currently, there's 46 monsters (and 3 templates... cant remember off the top of my head if we include those as "monsters" in the count of 46), and that's my best guess at the total. I'm pretty good at making those guesses these days, but not perfect at it.

A lot can still happen in the months to come.... but I'm probably about 99% positive that the monster count is solid.

The kaiju template is a great example of this—it's something that we had in an early version of Bestiary 3, and mentioned it in an early bit of ad copy or something, but then when we got to developing it... I realized that it's fundamentally not possible to do a 2 page kaiju template that would live up to my standards and so I cut it from the book.

Will we ever get a Kaijuu template? Cause I totally wanna Unleash Godzilla on My PCs. Especially since I was planning on running a campaign utilizing Siege Engine and Vehicle Rules called "Golarion Rangers!"

But Right! Will we ever see Kaijuu rules?

James Jacobs wrote:

The kaiju template is a great example of this—it's something that we had in an early version of Bestiary 3, and mentioned it in an early bit of ad copy or something, but then when we got to developing it... I realized that it's fundamentally not possible to do a 2 page kaiju template that would live up to my standards and so I cut it from the book.

Will we ever get a Kaijuu template? Cause I totally wanna Unleash Godzilla on My PCs. Especially since I was planning on running a campaign utilizing Siege Engine and Vehicle Rules called "Golarion Rangers!"

The premise was a line spoken by Rovagug "After 10,000 years I'm Free! It's Time to Eat Golarion!"

But Right! Will we ever see Kaijuu rules?

No kaiju template ever. I did it once before, back in Dragon Magazine several years ago, and it took up about 8 pages and still wasn't perfect.

We WILL do kaiju as monsters some day... but they'll be a type of monster, similar to how behemoths and linnorms and demons and angels are types of monster. Each one will probably be a unique monster as well.

Well, Kaijuu as Unique monsters are good too. I eagerly Await the forthcoming, but unspecified arrival of our new Kaijuu Overlords!

I still would have loved a kaiju Template even if it was a 8+ page long PDF. But unique monsters would be nice too as long as they can be any creature type, but also have Kaiju as a subtype.