Generic Villain |
This delay has happened every year for as long as I can recall - which isn't that long, given Pathfinder has only been around a few years. They fall behind by a month or two, then catch up in time for the next Gencon/Paizocon. It's just the way of things. The good news? It appears the Adventure Path line is on schedule thus far (it used to fall behind as well).
Cheapy |
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Right here for the plant-people. Their name is the Ghoran.
Set |
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Ah, Nex, the part of the setting where the presence of sentient hive-mind ooze colonies, monster-making 'fleshforges' and an abundance of research into new and shiny forms of construct make it possible to have PC races of almost *any* type...
Granted, given all that, *plant* type Nexian PCs was not the first thing I was expecting! Since Eberron had already 'done' the Warforged thing, I was kind of hoping for ooze-type PCs, generated by the hive minds as mobile sensory input / humanoid interaction units, and spinning off into their own individual sentiences (with some sort of vestigial link to the hive-mind allowing them to break out the funky knowledge rolls 1/day or something by sitting down to meditate and reconnect with the hive-mind).
Mikaze |
Ah, Nex, the part of the setting where the presence of sentient hive-mind ooze colonies, monster-making 'fleshforges' and an abundance of research into new and shiny forms of construct make it possible to have PC races of almost *any* type...
Granted, given all that, *plant* type Nexian PCs was not the first thing I was expecting! Since Eberron had already 'done' the Warforged thing, I was kind of hoping for ooze-type PCs, generated by the hive minds as mobile sensory input / humanoid interaction units, and spinning off into their own individual sentiences (with some sort of vestigial link to the hive-mind allowing them to break out the funky knowledge rolls 1/day or something by sitting down to meditate and reconnect with the hive-mind).
That's almost exactly how I fit the Squole into our Golarion. :D
I'd love to see Paizo's own take on that idea, because something has to be brewing in that lake!
Pagan priest |
Jim Groves wrote:James Jacobs wrote:Yeah... turns out that on closer inspection to the original source, one of those two is actually the size of a crocodile and so there'll be a bit of development adjustments going on there. The result of which = no longer a good choice for familiar, alas.I can't remark further publicly, but I was the one that actually brought that to your attention myself. Yet... it's not that simple. The creature is a rare one in that it can vary from Tiny to Large, depending if it is encountered in captivity or in the wild (i.e. that is what the source material specifically says when I read it over a couple times). So I tried to account for that. We'll see if you approve. Sorry, I won't contradict you again in public. :)No worries!
But this is a good example of why it's best to resist temptation and not talk about the contents of a book too much before it's published—it's why I often try to be cagey or obscure in my answers since sometimes, something might get cut from a book or otherwise change.
The kaiju template is a great example of this—it's something that we had in an early version of Bestiary 3, and mentioned it in an early bit of ad copy or something, but then when we got to developing it... I realized that it's fundamentally not possible to do a 2 page kaiju template that would live up to my standards and so I cut it from the book.
Is there any chance that a kaiju template will actually show up, some day?
Pagan priest |
Stratagemini wrote:James Jacobs wrote:The kaiju template is a great example of this—it's something that we had in an early version of Bestiary 3, and mentioned it in an early bit of ad copy or something, but then when we got to developing it... I realized that it's fundamentally not possible to do a 2 page kaiju template that would live up to my standards and so I cut it from the book.Will we ever get a Kaijuu template? Cause I totally wanna Unleash Godzilla on My PCs. Especially since I was planning on running a campaign utilizing Siege Engine and Vehicle Rules called "Golarion Rangers!"
The premise was a line spoken by Rovagug "After 10,000 years I'm Free! It's Time to Eat Golarion!"But Right! Will we ever see Kaijuu rules?
No kaiju template ever. I did it once before, back in Dragon Magazine several years ago, and it took up about 8 pages and still wasn't perfect.
We WILL do kaiju as monsters some day... but they'll be a type of monster, similar to how behemoths and linnorms and demons and angels are types of monster. Each one will probably be a unique monster as well.
Oops. I posted too soon.
Dragon78 |
Sorry MMCJawa, I have spent the last couple of days looking on this sight and I can't find the post that said there was a bird race in this book. I asked James Jacobs about it and he said it was a secret, so I gues we are back to not knowing for sure what the 5th race is in this book.
Races
1)Lashunta
2)Android
3)Ghoran
4)Monkey Goblin
5)????
Yeah Pagan priest I would love an Tian Xia Bestiary, Distant Worlds Bestiary, Arcadia Bestiary, Azlanti Bestiary, Sarusan Bestiary, Garund Bestiary, Vudra Bestiary, and Bestiary 4.
Mr. Jacobs has already said that the Kaiju would be done with mythic rules so hopefully we will get at least one in that book.
Cthulhudrew |
Sorry MMCJawa, I have spent the last couple of days looking on this sight and I can't find the post that said there was a bird race in this book.
A bird race is mentioned here.
Read into that what you may.
Pagan priest |
Sorry MMCJawa, I have spent the last couple of days looking on this sight and I can't find the post that said there was a bird race in this book. I asked James Jacobs about it and he said it was a secret, so I gues we are back to not knowing for sure what the 5th race is in this book.
Races
1)Lashunta
2)Android
3)Ghoran
4)Monkey Goblin
5)????Yeah Pagan priest I would love an Tian Xia Bestiary, Distant Worlds Bestiary, Arcadia Bestiary, Azlanti Bestiary, Sarusan Bestiary, Garund Bestiary, Vudra Bestiary, and Bestiary 4.
Mr. Jacobs has already said that the Kaiju would be done with mythic rules so hopefully we will get at least one in that book.
And Beastiary 5, and Beastiary 6...
I suppose that (if I must) I can wait a little longer for Kaiju. After all, at the moment I am not even running a game, let alone one high enough level to worry about stats for Kaiju.
Stratagemini |
I wonder what kind of plant the Ghoran will be based on or maybe it can look like anykind of plant.
Where was the "Festering Spirit" from?
Paizocon 2012. It was the featured Mini. They said that it would be statted up for release soon. And this is the only Bestiary I know of coming out soon. Well, unless you count APs and The NPC Codex.
James Jacobs Creative Director |
Dragon78 wrote:Paizocon 2012. It was the featured Mini. They said that it would be statted up for release soon. And this is the only Bestiary I know of coming out soon. Well, unless you count APs and The NPC Codex.I wonder what kind of plant the Ghoran will be based on or maybe it can look like anykind of plant.
Where was the "Festering Spirit" from?
"Soon" in that case should be amended to "Eventually."
Stratagemini |
Stratagemini wrote:"Soon" in that case should be amended to "Eventually."Dragon78 wrote:Paizocon 2012. It was the featured Mini. They said that it would be statted up for release soon. And this is the only Bestiary I know of coming out soon. Well, unless you count APs and The NPC Codex.I wonder what kind of plant the Ghoran will be based on or maybe it can look like anykind of plant.
Where was the "Festering Spirit" from?
Awwwww.... You make me sad with anticipation, James Jacobs.
On the other hand, maybe it'll be out in the Shattered Star AP?
James Jacobs Creative Director |
JiCi |
That got me interested, I'm eager to take a look at it. While it is mostly for the Inner Sea, I'm pretty sure it can be adapted to any setting, like Eberron, which I'm running. I mean, Numerian technology can easily fit into Eberron.
I agree that this won't replace a Bestiary 4, but that would be nice to get a good chunk of this book into that book. You see, I tend to see Bestiaries as compendiums, because a lot of monsters from the Adventure Paths and related books, like that Inner Sea Bestiary, gets another publication in Bestiaries. If you guys at Paizo are looking to create a 4th Bestiary, it would be a good idea to take each and every monster published in between Bestiaries and add all of them into the new one. After that, you fill the rest with new creations or converted monsters. That way, you make these rather obscure monsters known... and it saves you work ^_^
That's just my suggestion thoug, let's be clear here.
Dragon78 |
Creatures in the hardcover bestiaries are setting neutral but the ones in this one are setting specific. So I doubt they will end up in a hardcover except maybe if they do another race book then any playable races from this one can be make it's way into that.
I really hope they update the cover art and product description soon.
Jessica Price Contributor |
Vic Wertz Chief Technical Officer |
After we send stuff to the printer, there's a proofing cycle that runs entirely on the printer's schedule, not ours, and only after that cycle—which may take more than one pass—is completed is the cover considered final. So yes, the fact that it's gone to the printer means that we're closer to having the updated cover... but I wouldn't expect it next week, if that's what you're asking.
Jason Nelson Contributor, RPG Superstar 2008 Top 4, Legendary Games |