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I am a lvl 13 druid/ 1 monk. I have just been dogpiled by a group of vampires and turned. However my alignment was CN and has now changed to CE? I am wondering if first this is correct. Secondly, if this is correct and my alignment is CE my druidic abilities are now all gone. How does one change their alignments to lets say CN or NE while being a vampire?
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I'm interested in hearing the story that lead up to that encounter, lol.
If i understand the rules correctly, the Vampire template gets added to your character and alignment is "any evil". Technically the GM can go ahead and say that at this time, your alignment is now CE because CE falls into the any evil catagory.
Personally, i would have loved more of an RP opportunity as you struggle to hold onto your beliefs(CN alignment). As far as moving your alignment from CE to something in line with what Druids require, actions on your part do that.
Have you talked to your GM about what your characters future will hold? Any chance for redemption/atonement?
i'd have to do some research, but i'm pretty sure that becoming a vampire unwillingly does not change your alignment, just your type (humanoid to undead).
if however you DO have to change alignment (if for no other reason then DM Fiat) then i would suggest 1 of two things:
either stay a vampire and find an alchemest who can create atrificial blood for you to drink to sustain your life.
or you can find a way to return from the dead similar to curing licanthropy.
i would sucest a twilight-ish answer like only feeding on animals, but that kind of goes against the druid way. so yeah, im kinda stumped on how a vampire gets away from being evil without actually walking into the sun....
edit on second thought, being both a druid AND an undead is kind of a contradition in itself, so i (as a DM) would have to say that no matter your alignment you still would have no access to your druid powers. however in the spirit of being a good DM i would also rework your class skill specifically for you so that your druid skills would reflect undead qualities. i.e. a familiar thats a hellhound or wildshape turning you into a lych etc.
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i'd have to do some research, but i'm pretty sure that becoming a vampire unwillingly does not change your alignment, just your type (humanoid to undead).
if however you DO have to change alignment (if for no other reason then DM Fiat) then i would suggest 1 of two things:
either stay a vampire and find an alchemest who can create atrificial blood for you to drink to sustain your life.
or you can find a way to return from the dead similar to curing licanthropy.
i would sucest a twilight-ish answer like only feeding on animals, but that kind of goes against the druid way. so yeah, im kinda stumped on how a vampire gets away from being evil without actually walking into the sun....
edit on second thought, being both a druid AND an undead is kind of a contradition in itself, so i (as a DM) would have to say that no matter your alignment you still would have no access to your druid powers. however in the spirit of being a good DM i would also rework your class skill specifically for you so that your druid skills would reflect undead qualities. i.e. a familiar thats a hellhound or wildshape turning you into a lych etc.
My thing with characters are, why does a vampire have to be evil? I like the whole idea of being conflicted with your what you are and what you want to be. Also, I don't think that a undead druid is a contradiction. I can still revere nature and love nature, imo. But that is just me and since the DM is going to have final ruling, I am just kinda waiting now.
Please share the story of your being turned! :)
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I'm interested in hearing the story that lead up to that encounter, lol.
If i understand the rules correctly, the Vampire template gets added to your character and alignment is "any evil". Technically the GM can go ahead and say that at this time, your alignment is now CE because CE falls into the any evil catagory.
Personally, i would have loved more of an RP opportunity as you struggle to hold onto your beliefs(CN alignment). As far as moving your alignment from CE to something in line with what Druids require, actions on your part do that.
Have you talked to your GM about what your characters future will hold? Any chance for redemption/atonement?
It happened in the Runelords campaign. Aberrational Vampires with 4 spawns is kind of pain to take care of for a group of 4. But to my luck there was only a group of two last night. Just my druid/monk and an inquisitor. Perhaps we should of just waited for the others, but we didn't want to wait another two weeks.
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@Shimesen: Feeding on animals does not necessarily violate "The Druid Way," as there are about as many "Ways" as there are druids. They're not all tree-hugging vegans. Some are more focused on the predator-prey relationships in nature, and vampires are predators. At the very least, look at the vampire bat; they drink blood from animals.
While being undead does sort of take you out of several parts of the life cycle, you are still able to function as a predator.
As for changing alignment . . . you probably wouldn't just become insta-evil, but you'd definitely have to fight your evil urges. Give in to the need to feed on helpless folks, and you're going straight down the path of evil. Maybe Neutral Evil, if your GM wants you to still have access to your druid abilities.
I do agree that you ought to look for a cure of some sort. If you have a trustworthy friend with access to resurrection, then you can let them stake you and bring you back to proper life. From a reading of reincarnate, it looks like you won't be able to go with that option, so resurrection is your best bet. Unless, of course, your GM is willing to create a mini-quest to cure the vampirism.
In any case, best of luck!
i agree about being conflicted. there are alot of great vampire characters in books that struble with that very thing. (angel from buffy being a good one. the cullens from twilight as another) but the whole idea of a vampire is that they are no longer natural anymore in that they have been removed from the natural order and placed on a step above it all as well as outliving the world. the problem isn't that you dont love or revere nature anymore, its that nature sees you as an outsider or a mistake in the order of things. a druid gains his powers from nature. it nature no longer sees you as an ally it will no longer grant you its powers. get it?
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Possible Runelords Spoilers!!!!
First off, it was just 2 of us because the other turds had dates or something. Personally I believe your personal relationships should be secondary to role playing. ;)
So the Sylph Druid, Eres, and the Dwarf Inquisitor, Tychus, were in the Thassilonian city in the runelords campaign. After being attacked by some high level Lamia and beating them off pretty well and killing five giants with no real problems, we figured we could keep going. We met a Skulk that seemed to be the plot hook we were looking for and he convinced us to follow him. So after following him through a cave system for some time, we come to huge room with a skeleton glaring at us from a seated pedestal. It began to speak to us in a guttural evil language that we could not understand (abyssal) and that was the only language it knew. If we had spoke it, he was gesturing us forward saying "come to me so that I may feed upon you." However, we didn't get that memo. Instead he came forward and immediately attacked us. The skeleton turned out to be a puppet and the real problem was the Aberration Vampire that the Thassilonian mages brought here a millennium ago and sealed up in this room. This tentacled mass of teeth and level drain was invisible in the middle of the room. So as we started to fight the skeleton we were literally standing right next to the aberration. So when I began to cast it succeeded a attack of opportunity on me and started grappling me and sucking levels out to me. (2 per turn) Then his spawns came in and began to attack us well, causing more level drain. I finally succeeded a concentration check to turn into an air elemental so that I could knock them back and GTFO, but as soon as I turned, I was hit by the aberration again and knocked unconscious. Now while unconscious I had the elemental template up, so they couldn't drain my blood and instead drained my levels. The inquisitor, by the time I lost my last levels, had finally finished killing the huge aberration and then cleaned up the spawns pretty easily.
sounds like you two should have waited for the cavalry to arive once you found your plot hook. but hey, if it were me, i would take full advantage of the being a vampire thing. vamps are EPIC combat players. i would say forget the whole druid idea and suck up the skill loss by using your monk abilities and further leveling that class. a vampire has some prety lethal unarmed attacks alone. combine that with monk skills and you have the potential to be a full blown beast on the battlefield. think about it: insane speed, super strength, and the ability to literally rip an enemy to shreds with your bare hands. not to mention a constitution drain on a grapple and bite attack. all in all, yes there is a major loss in usable skills from druid, but your DM could use his god like powers to say that when you reawoke from the dead your brain went on overdrive and you replaced a couple of those druid levels with monk. or you could spend a night or two studying monk texts to acomplish this.
my point is that if it were me, i'd just stick with being a vampire and embrace my new un-life.