Yeah, not too sure... He's cool, but maybe not so much my type in this situation. I think he would do better with a nice urban adventure or Carrion Crown.
Edit: While looking at the Players Guide and our Profiles to see who in our group is best suited for whichever leadership roles, I was surprised to note that Kalsgrim and Servayn have identical stats. :)
14, 14, 14, 10, 10, 18. Freaky.
Great minds think alike! I'm not convinced that we need to decide on a ruler; we may be able to alternate the leadership role, like a Lord Mayor or something.
I have been wondering about some of the treasure in APs. I have a 5th level wizard in a PbP Legacy of Fire, and right now he's about a third of the recommended treasure value for his level, including what he's spent on new spells.
After a little time at this fort hoping to catch straggler bandits, we should be able to move quickly on some of the other encounters and raise our treasure level. Though it is hard for Kalsgrim to complain, having gotten some armor and a bow.
I'm honestly a little lost as to what has been going on. I have been super busy with my new job and trying to figure out all the spoilers makes my brain hurt too.Gratz on the new job!
And yeah, once we figure out that crazy old dude raped prisoner lady, and cut short any debate about what do with him when she attempts to gank him with her bare hands, this spoiler-y stuff should be done. :)
I understand that spoilers can get tough after a while, but bear with me for now, It's almost over.
And Set, I don't know how you can fathom so much out of what's not spoilered. And if you do read the spoilers (it's a personal choice, really, but I think it allows to keep player knowledge from character knowledge), no problem, but please don't bring the info to the ones that might not read them.
Do you still intend on playing Tuck, for the time being? He was kind of a emergency draft pick at the time, and I'm not sure how much the character is resonating with you.
There is also Mastermind... ;-p
It's no prob DW, I'm cool. My first pbp had spoilers due to split party business, and then we got back together, and I'm like "YAY!", and then we split again, and then I'm like.."NOOOOOOOOOO! NOT MORE SPOILERS!"
I think that's where my intial issues with spoilers come from.
But it's no prob. I totally get why we did it then and why now. It's all good! :)
(I must say, though, by not reading the spoilers I'm thinking to myself, "What the heck is Set talking about? Is he going off on one of his "Evil Mastermind" binges again.") ;)
Yeah, I'm confused. :P
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And Set, I don't know how you can fathom so much out of what's not spoilered. And if you do read the spoilers (it's a personal choice, really, but I think it allows to keep player knowledge from character knowledge), no problem, but please don't bring the info to the ones that might not read them.
Sorry about that, I didn't even think about the spoiler potential.
I do look at spoilers, but I try to keep that info compartmentalized.
I'd actually forgotten that Servayn even knew there was a woman down there at all and was running him as not knowing she was there for the last half-page or so, even though he went and checked her out with detect magic and then went up the ladder to search for a key to her chains! I'm going senile...
There is also Mastermind... ;-pDo you still intend on playing Tuck, for the time being? He was kind of a emergency draft pick at the time, and I'm not sure how much the character is resonating with you.
But you're all doin' things and stuff now!
Scipion, I'm sorry to see you didn't get chosen for the module, but you've run a hell of a competition. I'm truly impressed with what you've produced and sends my greatest congratulations. I hope you will participate again next year. The game got richer from your input.
While I can't submit anything next year, I will definitely follow along and offer comments/critiques. If any of you guys want someone to look over your magic items, villains, archtypes or whatever certainly send it my way!
I can't wait to get started on my Pathfinder Scenario. I might even complete my adventure based on the feedback to the proposal. I've got all the stuff I need to do it already, lol.
Yeah, I didn't realize that you still got a commission for some work. That's an awesome opportunity.
I'm looking forward to seeing your Pathfinder scenario, and I will certainly take you up on your offer for a review for 2012. Congratulations again!
Scranford! It looks like you got the nod to have Darcy in two Carrion Crown games. You might want to jump in and let them know which one you are going to take. :)
Maybe he'll have her in both! Alternate universes!
Tough choice, knowing how few last!
I guess one who has many games running would named a polygamer... Sounds a lot like...
Good luck with the decision! If you choose randomly, I would suggest avoiding the dice roller!
EDIT: Just saw you chose. Good gaming!
I've updated the NPC list in my profile. Take a look! It's a lot of people. The game has been running almost a year now and a lot happened.
As we finish the Stag Lord Fort "episode", I would like to settle a few things. First is whether Scipion wants to take his game back, and if so, at which point.
Personally, I'm fine with any answer, but this experience has given me a taste for DMing. I would like to DM a game, be it this one or the Eberron one I keep talking about. So an answer would settle my mind somehow. I know you're very busy with work at the moment Scipion, but having a clearer idea would help me (you can also answer: "I'll be able to answer in a few weeks.")
Thanks for your understanding.
You know, technically, Scranford's submission was chosen three times.
Dude, where do you get your mojo? ;)
The first time I was actually picked, the dude turned out to be one of those cats that gets people to make characters and then vanishes right before he starts the main thread. (He's managed it several times actually, to assortment of other pbp'ers. Needless to say, I don't count him as anything.)
Being a newbie, Scipion was actually the first REAL DM to give me a shot in that MOTFF. Had a whopping 60 some odd pbp posts to my name at the time. Thanks, Scip! And then Serpent Skull, again thanks!
So it's very rare(at least for me) to get chosen. Don't get me wrong, I owe some thanks to Warforged(Thanks!) for squeezing me in here with you fellas, but when it comes to actually being selected, especially when there are 20 or so, it's REALLL tough. Especially when you are a practical unkown.
Anyway, ramblin here, just thought that was pretty wild getting chosen three times with the same character. Pretty, freakin' amazin'! :)
Three times! Obviously, they didn't know about his dice roller performance! (ok, that joke is getting old, but Scranford keeps reviving it!)
I just got selected on a CC PbP! Woohoo!
Glad you could get into a CC pbp as well. I'm in the same one as Javell and Scranford. Interesting side note... The Rauno Redpath character I'm using was in a defunct campaign. In that campaign, Rauno was teased regularly by another PC, played by Joana on these boards. The character that Joana played used the same image that Scranford's Darcy character is using. :)
Well, my home computer issue is settled. I bought a pretty nice Mac Mini off of a friend, it served me well during the RPG Superstar. This new job is a little hectic, but I think that after we finish up the bandit fort I could probably take back over. There is still some content left to wring out in Book 1 before we really have to think about Book 2.
Glad you could get into a CC pbp as well. I'm in the same one as Javell and Scranford. Interesting side note... The Rauno Redpath character I'm using was in a defunct campaign. In that campaign, Rauno was teased regularly by another PC, played by Joana on these boards. The character that Joana played used the same image that Scranford's Darcy character is using. :)
Interesting, I'm using Trevor the Yellow, almost the same concept as the one I used in Hollow's Last Hope run by Dorgar until he and his brother vanished.
Well, my home computer issue is settled. I bought a pretty nice Mac Mini off of a friend, it served me well during the RPG Superstar. This new job is a little hectic, but I think that after we finish up the bandit fort I could probably take back over. There is still some content left to wring out in Book 1 before we really have to think about Book 2.
Thanks for the precisions Scipion.
<Waves back at Nikolae.>
Glad you could get into a CC pbp as well. I'm in the same one as Javell and Scranford. Interesting side note... The Rauno Redpath character I'm using was in a defunct campaign. In that campaign, Rauno was teased regularly by another PC, played by Joana on these boards. The character that Joana played used the same image that Scranford's Darcy character is using. :)
You never know, MoB, there still may yet be a Foofy in your future... ;)
(Was a lurker in that thread. Quite the funny stuff.) :D
Lueck raises a mug to his long ago companions!
Woo, this Nadhalia subplot's gonna be a rough one!
We could just accuse her of consorting with the enemy, and throw her in prison as well. If she's a noble, she probably deserves it :-).
The loot is updated in my profile. There's a lot, and you'll probably need to keep some to start your kingdom building... I'll give you some time to discuss what to do next, preferably in the ooc thread if you prefer to metagame a little. There is also the return to Oleg to plan. Good job on the fort. I hope you had as much fun as me!
It was a blast! Pretty intense. :)
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I've checked the Players Guide again to see what that Leadership Roles stuff was about, and come up with a few notions;
Ruler – Cha
Councilor - Wis or Cha
General - Str or Cha
Grand Diplomat - Int or Cha
High Priest - Wis or Cha
Magister - Int or Cha
Marshal - Dex or Wis
Royal Assassin! - Str or Dex
Spymaster - Dex or Int
Treasurer - Int or Wis
Warden - Str or Con
So, of the roles, there's six that can benefit from Charisma, four for Intelligence or Wisdom, three for Strength or Dexterity and only one that benefits from a high Constitution.
Kalsgrim...Str 14, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 10, Wis 10, Cha 18
Ruler, General, Grand Diplomat, Magister
Kriger.....Str 17, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 13, Wis 14, Cha 10
Warden, General
Lukasz.....Str 12, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 18, Wis 12, Cha 12
Spymaster, Grand Diplomat, Magister, Treasurer
Janku......Str 14, Dex 10, Con 13, Int 14, Wis 16, Cha 15
Councilor, General, High Priest, Marshal, Treasurer
Servayn....Str 14, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 10, Wis 10, Cha 18
Ruler, General, Grand Diplomat, Magister
Tuck.......Str 18, Dex 14, Con 12, Int 14, Wis 8, Cha 14
Warden, General
If NPCs are considered, we've met;
Oleg & Svetlana – ?
Bokken – potion-making kook
Blind cleric? (adept?) of Erastil
Kesten? – ex-noble warrior?
Nadhalia - noble lady
Grizzly Adams druid
Puny faeries
None of them have suggested sky-high attributes in any category, nor a great interest in a leadership position. (Grizzly Adams and Oleg seem dead set against that sort of thing, both coming out here to get the hell away from people...)
If Kriger isn't already thinking of bumping Str to 18 when we hit 4th level, it might be a good thing to improve whatever the hell Str does to make one a better Marshal, Warden or, ahem, Royal Assassin...
We're not doing bad on Strength people, and okay on Charisma people (granted, six of the eleven positions can use Cha, so there's hardly such a thing as 'too much' for this purpose), but Janku and Lukasz are pretty much our only exceptional Wisdom and Intelligence peeps. That could be an issue, since both Wis and Int are useful to four different Leadership roles.
And we've got crap all for exceptional Dex folk. :)
There are other NPCs that you can add:
Garick and Ox, Corso (who could come back as a PC, while Tuck becomes an NPC again).
Reluctant NPCs are not necessarily static. They might be persuaded enough to help for a while. Even bandits could eventually show potential. Bandits often make "great" kings...
I haven't read the rulership rules yet, but I was under the impression that we didn't necessarily need someone in each post; only someone if we wanted to positively influence an aspect of kingdom development.
Plus, we're not quite done clearing the map. Maybe we can find a really dextrous kobold to plug into a spot or two... :)
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There are other NPCs that you can add:
Garick and Ox, Corso (who could come back as a PC, while Tuck becomes an NPC again).
Cool, I hadn't even thought of that, specifically.
Corso......Str 14, Dex 18, Con 10, Int 14, Wis 10, Cha 14
Marshal, Spymaster, Royal Assassin
Garick.....Str 14, Dex 16, Con 14, Int 14, Wis 13, Cha 12
Marshal, Spymaster, Royal Assassin
Ox.........Str 18, Dex 14, Con 14, Int 10, Wis 10, Cha 14
Warden, General, Royal Assassin
Reluctant NPCs are not necessarily static. They might be persuaded enough to help for a while. Even bandits could eventually show potential. Bandits often make "great" kings...
Yeah, I imagine some diplomacy on Oleg, Svetlana, Grizzly Adams, etc. could turn them around. I don't really know if they are particularly talented or charismatic (although it's probably safe to assume that Grizzly Adams has a decent Wisdom score, since he's a Druid), or if skills, feats, magic, etc. are going to end up more important than the 'Leadership Roles' attribute list.
The Players Guide (under Bards) also suggests that skills like Diplomacy, Bluff, Intimidate and Sense motive would be helpful in running the kingdom, as well as Knowledge (geography, local, nature, nobility and planes?), but I've only focused on the attributes, above, since that's all the PG specifically calls out in a sidebar as important to the various Leadership roles (and I wasn't feeling up to the challenge of listing out everybody's Diplomacy, Knowledge - local, etc. scores...
Plus, we're not quite done clearing the map. Maybe we can find a really dextrous kobold to plug into a spot or two... :)
True, if we don't end up killing them all, and make an alliance work, their leader or shaman dude might be suitable.
Ditto the fey (who likely have crap Str scores, but decent Dex and Cha scores) or even that dumb frog-dude (who, if the artwork is any indication, is freakishly strong). They might be servicable in some out-of-town role, like Spymaster for the fey or maybe Warden / Marshal for the boggard, depending on some combination of their interest in the job, reliability as allies and capability to get the job done.
If it's not obvious from my highlighting stats of 16 or better, I'm an elitist snob and biased against filling any slots with people who aren't well above average.
We might have to administer some civil service exams on these candidates, find out which wannabe Treasurers can't add and which wannabe Diplomats are socially awkward! :)
I'm still not sure we are done with the boggards. If we are finding they are still preying on humans, we may have to wipe them out. We are off to a good start with the kobolds though; I believe we were on good terms with them at the radish patches.
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I'm still not sure we are done with the boggards. If we are finding they are still preying on humans, we may have to wipe them out. We are off to a good start with the kobolds though; I believe we were on good terms with them at the radish patches.
Yeah, I blew my Action points for that level to Diplomacy those ones good, but we haven't met their leaders yet, so that's a different kettle of fish. There's plenty of time for me to roll a 1 or something rash to happen and necessitate their extermination. :)
I think there's just the one Boggard, and, maybe I'm just predjudiced against ugly demon-worshipping frog-people, but I think we are going to have to get rid of them. (Although Grizzly Adams seemed to think that the one we met wasn't a bad person, so who knows...)
Adding Corso, Garrick and Ox into the mix, we've got Str & Dex covered, that's for sure. :)
If Kriger isn't already thinking of bumping Str to 18 when we hit 4th level, it might be a good thing to improve whatever the hell Str does to make one a better Marshal, Warden or, ahem, Royal Assassin...
Yep. You got it. I was thinking Marshal or Warden. Not so sure about Royal Assassin but hey, could be quite the interesting! (And fun!) ;)
Maybe the psuedo spy like character should be the Royal Assassin, lol.
Regarding the Explosive Runes Scroll: Scipion, could you tell me, if you remember, where this item comes from? Thanks.
Somewhere to the west...umm...let me see...
I think we found it among the things that the elf bandits were carrying.
I think we found it among the things that the elf bandits were carrying.
Yup, I just e-mailed him.
Not at all, Set! I'm just like, "What?" Kriger was going to go talk to Akiros about that as well but it looks like Janku beat him to it.
I'm just glad it wasn't something else I missed! ;)
"Hello." He says into the mic as he taps it several times, "Is this thing on?" He wonders. ;)
Sorry, I've always wanted to do that. :D
Big weekend going on. I have a big assignment needing some quality time. I'll try to get something on later today if I can.
No big deal, DW. There's no big rush. This weekend is pretty busy for me and my family. I was just messing around. :)
Too late!
I feel like Kalsgrim just dodged a paladin code bullet there. What do you guys think? If he'd let her kill them, would that be chaotic/vengeance/Calistria territory more than lawful/justice/Erastil territory?
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I feel like Kalsgrim just dodged a paladin code bullet there. What do you guys think? If he'd let her kill them, would that be chaotic/vengeance/Calistria territory more than lawful/justice/Erastil territory?
It's a gray area, I think. Not allowing the accuser to administer the justice does feel more impartial and 'right,' to me, but I'm not sure if such a mindset would translate well to a fantasy medieval-esque worldview.
From a psychological stance, allowing the victim to 'take her power back' could be a useful tool for her recovery. On the other hand, it could also be a great starting point for a life of serial killing... (On the other, other hand, being denied the opportunity could result in her killing people in the future, attempting to make up for being 'robbed' of this chance to directly put an end to the individuals who made her feel powerless. Impossible to say, as the bugaboo of psychology is that different people react differently to these situations, and there's no 'right' answer.)
I'd have found an excuse to support either decision. Servayn's a bit of a Calistria-fan (although he's beginning to see the need for law and order in the establishment of a safe area in these lands), so he'd have preferred her being allowed to do it, but not enough to raise a fuss over it, since she seemed to accept the idea.
So just thinking about the future here. I know one of the big draws to Kingmaker is that you become rulers of the realm. However running the kingdom can be rather tedious...also book 2 in my opinion is a boring. What would your opinions be about "fast-forwarding" through book 2. With a nice big summary of what happened over the two years of building and the situation of everyone afterward.
I'm thinking (and I could be totally wrong here) it might be a nice shot in the arm for the PBP game. Give everyone a chance to add a few levels to their character, and make any changes which would be appropriate over such a long time. Also, shore up each characters wealth-by-level to account for having been a lord of the realm.
This way everyone is in a good place, got some fresh new abilities, and there's a bit more spark to the characters. Not to mention that Book 3 is one of my favorites, and they only get cooler the farther you go.
If this seems like a bad idea just let me know, it was your game originally.
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Wow, I hadn't considered that. I'm pretty stoked for the kingdom-building stuff, myself, although I'm not sure if that's the boring stuff, or if the actually adventuring stuff is the boring part of the second installment.
From my understanding of past adventures (the third or fourth installment of Second Darkness, the play in Council of Thieves) there are several AP installments that just don't 'flow' well with the rest of the arc, so if this second installment is a red herring or a game-killer, then, yeah, I'd be willing to at least fast-forward some of it.
On the other hand, if the adventure / plotline / encounters are integral to the kingdom-building aspect, I can't speak for everyone, but, for me, that's kind of the entire reason for this APs popularity, and I wouldn't want to miss out on that 'game within a game.'
I guess, in absence of knowing what the hell I'm talking about, I'm not really in a great position to decide one way or another. :)
Whee, watch me ride this fence! Now I'm on this side! Now I'm on that side!