I've heard word that native outsiders are immune to humanoid-based effects like Charm Person (and we'll tackle that when we come to it, since it may make the Native Outsider more powerful than intended).
The song affects non-humanoids, though. Spiny must also roll.
Well... Carina's captivated. And so is Astraden.
Not a good start. I didn't move my token yet in case Tanith wants to try grabbing me.
Tanith can make the typical Sense Motive check (DC 20, correct? see below) to realize Carina is "under the influence". Otherwise, he's considered flat-footed and doesn't get an AoO.
I'll let him notice automatically if someone manages to identify the harpies (and is able to mention their mind control ability).
Carina wouldn't be able to tell him before she gets captivated, right? That seems to be the case...
I have to say no, just because it's a bit too complicated an announcement to get off in the "split-second" before rolling initiative.
I looked it up. It's a DC 25 check, or DC 15 for dominations. Considering the nature of the harpy's ability, it seems thematically appropriate to put it at 15.
Tanith will have to physically keep Carina from moving for the entire combat, though--the effect won't be dispelled by a mere slap this time.
Makes sense.
Tanith wants to keep Carina safe but it seems the best way to do that would be to kill the harpies.
Assuming Tanith makes the sense motive check, can he tell which one(s) have her captivated?
Well, I was going to feel bad about once again not being the kind of bard that can just laugh at this kind of thing and countersong the hell out of it, but since I failed my will save(s), it doesn't even matter!
As far as the magic club goes... no, I hadn't searched the dead leader (it was the orc wandering encounter I searched on) but, hey, let's just say I did to make life easier. Unfortunately, I have no Spellcraft ranks whatsoever (or even detect magic), so identifying is all Astraden.
I'd definitely put that at DC 20. The harpies are all in the same general area, so it's not very easy to tell which one Carina's focused on.
Since Cuetzpalli and Farrukh have fairly dismal will saves, I think this encounter is ultimately going to be all about Tanith. So just start working your way through 'em.
I kind of need to potentually know how many each of them failed.
KC, do you mind rolling a handful of saves for them? They can decide what's worth trying to burn action points on when they post .
Since Cuetzpalli and Farrukh have fairly dismal will saves, I think this encounter is ultimately going to be all about Tanith. So just start working your way through 'em.
Yeah.
Though I passed all but the first one.
Oh, sweet! Everyone's online!
PUNCH THE MUSIC IN THE FACE!
Tanith will have to physically keep Carina from moving for the entire combat, though--the effect won't be dispelled by a mere slap this time.Didn't you say if a victim is attacked by another creature, we get a new Will save?
Unfortunately, the attack has to actually threaten the character's life. Keep in mind the equivalent here is lava. We're talking multiple points of lethal damage before you get to roll.
I love how Tanith, of all people, was the only one unaffected by the harpies. XD
Oh, sweet! Everyone's online!
And ironically, just as this once in a lifetime conjunction occurs, only you and KC are actually needed for the next few rounds worth of posting. I'm just gonna kick back, pour a stiff drink, and be entertained.
At least Carina has 20 AC for now. Not that I think it'll help much.
Oh, sweet! Everyone's online!
I'm going to sleep.
I have a gods damned kindergarten graduation ceremony to go sit in an hour of traffic to get to and then three hours of horrible kids singing so I can give them diplomas on my supposed day off. The joys of being a teacher. Anyway, I won't be able to really post until later tonight if at all today. Please DMPC me as necessary.
I'll have you know, Tanith has standards.
Harpies are barely below said standards.
I considered spending an action point to get cleave and then just chain-slapping my way through the party but KC said it wouldn't be enough to trigger new saves.
Yeah, the harpies would have to physically stop singing for that...
Then again, the fact that you basically bisected one might be enough encouragement for them to stop singing and start clawing. :)
You could always cleave with that fancy poleaxe of yours...
So, how much HP did I lose from the harpy talon?
That was just description. The harpy's attacks were all directed against Tanith. :P
Didn't seem to help them much. XD
Incidentally... wow. Three crits in a row.
That's more than my WotR aasimar barbarian's got under her belt... consecutively, that is.
Kord is serious about his No-Harpies policy apparently.
I didn't know he had a No-Harpies policy.
A No-Dragon policy, definitely.
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He might be left with 2 hit points at the end of it, but I think this is definitely a crowning moment of awesome for Tanith.
Unmistakably.
Heh. It was all made possible thanks to Eben's heroism (and an action point).
Well now we know they have somewhere between 44 and 80 hp.
Uh oh...
Alright, final numbers. Tanith is still up. Be grateful to Gark--I asked him to triple-check my numbers, and he turned up an error.
AAAAAAGGGGHHHHHH
I SHOULD BE IN BED RIGHT NOW BUT THERE'S TOO MUCH HYPE!
Sweet.
I'm home from the gym now so I can review the mappage more closely. I'm not sure what happened with who as far as movement is concerned by Tanith should have gotten an AoO at some point.
Also, do they guys have sufficient fly to auto-hover?
They've all been moving around through five-foot steps (five-foot flaps?), so that's a "Move less than half speed and remain flying" check--DC 10.
Gotcha. Damn their clever aerial maneuvers.
We're further narrowing it down.
Somewhere between 44 and 68 hp!
Only this morning did I realize how very near a TPK that encounter was.
I suppose they would have to allow folks free in order to kill them but they could pretty easily burn each of us down one by one.
Yeah... Tanith's a definite hero! :)
Well, we REALLY need to be careful now. Here we were, riding on the post 3foE high, and now we see just how lethal this adventure could have gotten...
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Only if #4 had gotten very lucky rolls earlier. They were only starting to take you down when all three had stopped singing. They could've killed you and fled but they soon would've had six very irate adventurers on their trail.
But yes it would've been a TP(minus Farrukh)K if not for that action point.
What are the odds off another encounter with party-wide save-or-lose x4?
What's funny is that the AP actually expected these lizardfolk to be a meaningful threat to you guys. Oh, the innocent days of 3.5...
That’s going to be a common thing throughout the AP. Some of the encounters ported forward are going to be horrifying and overpowered (the aspect and the dervish barbarian come to mind) others are going to be super weak. D20 is traditionally a pretty swingy system anyway.
You left out the harpies.
Really? They weren't just intended as 'let the party cut loose and have fun' fodder? That's funny.
...this is going to result in another dead boss monster that Tanith didn't get to bring down, isn't it?