Yeah, I got it. I was hoping they'd have a more rules based thing, though. They have a rule for someone trying to decipher goblin pictograms (-10 spellcraft) but not if there is a skill, feat, or anything required to make those pictograms and have them be viable for use as spell or formulae book. Unless goblins gain the ability to do so for free.
I'm leaning towards creating a cantrip that converts magical writing into pictograms. That way Wizards/Magi/Alchemists will be able to take advantage of the myriad of spellbooks this AP gives as loot. Although the Craft(something or other) + burnt book idea also has merit. And yes, Goblins of Golarion is an amazing book.
@Brother Tochack: As-written, you'll hit Level 18 immediately after defeating the end boss.
@Robert Henry: the shield bonuses wouldn't stack, but you could enchant one as a weapon and use the other for defense.
I don't think Alchemists have cantrips. I'll use craft (pictogram) for the time being. And with that: Gogmurch Dogroaster is complete! (aside from extract selection, I think)
After much thought I'm going to be submitting a toothy little LN monk. Unless an amazing new archetype revelation smacks me in the face like a dead fish, he'll be a Zen Archer monk. Though it won't be optimal with ZA Monk, I'll be working him towards Dragon Style to make sure he can do a beat-down up-close and at range. I'll crank him up by tomorrow.
Couple of traits questions...
Can we take more than one goblin trait or are you in favor of the one/category rule?
I've seen Quain Martial Artist and Heavy Hitter being treated as the same or different feats - Quain being regional and Heavy Hitter not so. What's your feeling on that? Could my monk take Heavy Hitter?
Alright, here is a start on Fartuk. Crunch is not finished. Take a look from time to time.
I will be updating it.
He'll be a Zen Archer monk.
Nice. Zen Archer is a pretty cool archetype.
I don't think Alchemists have cantrips. I'll use craft (pictogram) for the time being.
If we both make the cut, I got you covered. ;)
@Laszlo: One trait/category, and I'll rule both are Regional traits. However, I'm perfectly fine with reflavoring traits if necessary.
"Grith burn and smack,
longshanks turn to black,
doggies die in flame,
Grith will pass the blame!"
A scrawny goblin with a big nose and gleaming eyes hides behind a farmhouse. "Grith not want to be chief. Nope. Chief sit and grow fat. Other goblins snicker and plot." Grith makes a slitting motion with his dogslicer across his throat. "Grith not need all that. Grith just want to burn. Light the houses, light the guards, burn the longshanks, burn the horses and dogs, and burn the goblins that get in Grith's way! And burn up anyone who points finger at Grith! Grith always innocent. Just bad luck to be around Grith and his torches!" Grith says as he 'drops' a torch onto a bale of hay.
Can't add any more campaigns at this time, but if you ever do this again I'm as interested as a goblin in a fireworks factory.
Still working over here. I think this is the hardest build I've done... Possibly ever.
Here's the character list thus far. I know some of you are still working on builds, but here's what I'm seeing at the moment.
Croaker (Druid, casting focus) - needs 1 more trait, Goblin Song
Gogmurch Dogroaster (Fire Bomber Alchemist) - needs Goblin Song
Brother Tochack (Dawnflower Dervish Bard) - fine for now
Stickymitts (Oracle, in progress) - needs 1 more trait, Goblin Song
Grith (Fighter) - needs 1 drawback
Molehill (Fighter) - currently a 20pt buy, needs Goblin Song
Doesn't Play Well With Others (Evoker Wizard) - currently a 13pt buy, needs 1 drawback, Goblin Song
Fartuk (Fire School Wizard) - needs a familiar, Goblin Song
Let me know if I missed anything, and don't forget to write a Goblin Song. Yes, even the intelligent outcasts. It's a vital part of Goblin life after all. ;-)
Sung quietly while stalking his target:
Sticky's eyes, shiney bright
For your stuff he'll bash and bite!
But if your stuff be broken true
Sticky says "Night night!" to you!
I have decided that Oracle will be a first-level dip and flavor/story level. After that, going full barbarian for 8 levels and hitting Rage Prophet at 10.
I just can't figure a way to get pure oracle to work well, which is disappointing as that's what I wanted. I'll keep theory crafting, but this is the way it looks as of right now. I'll finish the lvl 1 build soon.
Withdrawn
Strike my last:
After running this by some of my buddies, I think I'm still going to dip Oracle, but I'll go Maneuver Master or Flowing monk after that! This fits much better with my picture of him and I'll be a much more effetive in combat via debuffing.
In a few levels it'll be like:
Round 1:
*Blind* *entangle* I has yer stuffs! HAHAHA... It's all BROKE! Stupid longshanks!
Round 2:
You other longshanks has a Shiney! *repeat*
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My goblin is Garl, who loves grats (he named them himself!)
"Evil dogs who scratch and bite,
Beware the grats who come to fight,
They spread their fluff with all their might,
So puny dogs will all take flight!"
A short... female?... Goblin shuffles in, walking softly with a big stick. Next to her flies a giant wasp. She looks around.
"Oh hai! Me be TeeFee! And dis be my bug bug Sting Sting. She fly fast most days!" TeeFee Pauses, putting an ear to the giant insects mouth. "Sting Sting say she want us sing our good fight song! We made up song for us to have the good fights and killi all da lawngshanks and dogs!"
The little goblin hops on a stump and her companion droans next to her. "We sing it now!:
"Our claws is sharp and Sting Sting stings!
We killi all da dogs and horsies
dat come close to da forest springs!
Iz me forest! and Sting Stings see!
Ooh! A shiny!..."
Ooh! A shiny!..."
Shiney!? Mine!
My next post should be as Bricker “Red Hat” Goblin Barbarian. I would like to use the Magical Knack trait, it says “You were raised, either wholly or in part, by a magical creature…” as long as the story line works are Redcaps magical creature enough?
My plan is he starts following them around, at first they will throw stuff at him; eventually they will throw stuff to him. He will never actually be part of the group, more like a stray dog that becomes a pet. If he multi-classes as an Oracle his first curse will be Tongues, he will speak Aklo, and will sound disturbingly like a Redcap. His second curse will be Haunted, which fits in nicely with the drawback Haunting Regret.
Just an idea, if he would be of more use to the party as a Barbarian, or multi-classing into Cavalier or Rogue, that could work also and I would just use a different trait. Thanks for your consideration.
@Robert Henry: I'm fine with that storyline. Also, as I mentioned upthread, I have no problem with reflavoring traits. If you want the trait to represent the fact that you have an innate magical aptitude, that's perfectly acceptable. :-)
This is Kios. Updated to include companion and updated crunch. Please let me know if anything is missing.
Fartuk listens to the chief again. He looks over to Bigsby, "The chief is in quite a mood today... Well...Might carry a tune before we go." Fartuk clears his throat.
"Goblins be we beeeeeee."
Fartuk keeps a nice sustained note.
"Burn down see we see."
"Bend not by knee he kneeeeeee."
Bigsby joins in on a lower Octave.
"Fire be Tree She Tree."
"Goblins we be weeeeee."
This song was made by the finest Goblins with clear musicianship for that was not the end of the song. The Goblins begin to clap together and continue singing.The song picks up speed.
"Young in cage."
"Rage is Rage."
"Flesh in belly."
"Smelly is smelly."
"So we ate."
"Hate is Hate.
"Smaller than Higher."
"So we use fireeeeee."
Fartuk takes the center spotlight using improvisation.
"Does it mean anything at all."
"How tall longshanks will falllll."
"May they burn."
"They never learnnnnnn."
He goes for the goblin finale, everyone's voice is included.
"Goblinnnnnnnnns we be weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee."
I propose that you give us free ranks into Perform sing for each level. ;)
In waddles a slightly obese female goblin followed by a cadre of chanting goblin children.
"Auntie brew and auntie munch!
Eyes go pop and bones go crunch!
She turn humies into lunch!
Eat the baby, kill the pup!
Feed until you go throw up!
After the song is done all the little ones quickly scurry off.
EDIT: This is Cuàn by the way
Her fuzzy thing of choice is the horse's mane she wears as a wig. That and her poppet of course.
Crunch isn't entirely done yet.
yes yes a song of course, It might take a while, Im a bit hoarse.
The problem you see, came from a bug in a tree. That I ate in too quick a fashion. With my throat all cleared I suppose I can begin with a passion."
Clears his throat and ahems politely
You can hit `em with a bat you can hit `em with a brick
You can poke `em in the eye with your eye pokin stick
That's how I earn my living
Killing the barking dogs (woof woof)
You can slash `em in the head you can slash `em in the throat
Then throw `em in out back in your goblin moat
That's how I have my fun
Killing the barking dogs (woof woof)
He pauses and shakes his head rolling his eyes above his entirely too small mouth.
"what no sing along?
He shakes his dimunitive fist at the sky grumbles in complaints to his toad.
Looks like too many great concepts already, so I will bow out as mine is nowhere near ready.
Similarly, I shall do so as well.
Laz is built. His crunch is on the character sheet.
Laszlo is quiet by goblin standards, less cruel, and more even tempered. He has the beginnings of a moral center, which I'll be happy to explore in game. He can be murderous but isn't sadistic or random in his violence. I think his LN alignment can go one of two ways. It can make him follow the standard 'Goblin Order' of things, i.e. he is just following the cultural norms and rules though he doesn't necessarily enjoy them (which lets him work with evil gobbos). Or it can represent a more substantial shift away from evil if the party make-up goes towards something closer to good-aligned. Notably, Laszlo has a sympathetic soft spot for runts of any species and will avoid harming them. So while killing a dangerous dog wouldn't bother him, he would try to save puppies.
The small grey goblin catches up to the burly Chief. He pulls at a loose shark-like tooth in his mouth with a couple stubby fingers while he talks around it. "Chief, I'sing wants to go on Sandy-Point raid. You say yes, yes?"
The Chief's only response is a barking laugh.
Unsurprised by the answer Laz pulls the bloody and broken tooth from his mouth, eyeballs it briefly, and then pops it back into his mouth and swallows it. His other stubby hand pulls one of his few treasures from his ratty pocket. He hands it to the Chief. It is a tattered and sticky playing card - a jack - with a hole where the human's face used to be. He points at the hole. "Ising put an arrow there from seventy paces... one try."
Gutwad is unimpressed, "So? That not hard."
Laz gives the Chief a sharktooth grin. "Is true - so made it hard. Nailed card to goblin dog... fast dog... your dog. He run through woods real quick, then I's shoot. Sorry about sticky stuff. I's need new card; you's need new dog. Old dog got hole in heart. Now, you say yes I's go on Sandy-Point raid, Chief, or do I's need to shoot somethin' else?" He pulls another dog-eared card from his pocket.
Goblin eyes don' miss the mark.
When quiet feet do the sneakin'
Flat-toothed mouths do some shriekin'!
With Chopper or Slicer - the killin's good
But gimme weapons of sinew n' wood.
There's no better fear in enemy eyes
Then when Goblin arrows begin to fly!
We'll take your treasure, flesh, and hides -
Bloody tributes for the Licktoad Tribe!
My plan is levels of Monk, with a side of Monk, and slathering the whole thing with Monk Sauce...
IF, as the game develops, Laz seems to be lagging behind the other damage dealers, I might supplement his skills with a few levels of Rogue or Ranger, but I doubt that will be necessary.
Feats:
The typical ranged attack feats you'd expect, with a liberal sprinkling of Dragon Style, Dragon Ferocity, Ankle Biter, Deep Sight, and a few of the 'old reliables' (slots permitting) like Improved Initiative, Toughness, and Dodge.
Croakers goes off to gather some more herbs for his spells. While mucking through the woods picking various plants he begins to sing to himself. His favorite goblin song of all time.
"Goblins kick and goblins bite
but Croakers goin' ta have all the might.
Mr. Jumpy will lead the way
so all the Licktoad follow Crokers one day.
Plants and and animals are my friends
'cause other stupid goblins follow stupid trends.
One day Croakers gonna have so much power
all the goblins bring presents for me ever hour."
Alright. Have an update. Here is what I have added. Fartuk
Roleplaying: Put the role playing bits so far on the page.
Spellcasting: Spells per day and spell list are now on the page in the Spell Casting section.
Familiar: Fox familiar added.
Character Advancement: Put it on the page.
Still more to do!
I am going to make a separate section for prepared spells and finite powers.
I am going to make some form of backstory. Probably a personality section.
Need to buy equipment and all that jazz.
Added second trait, swapped out favor class bonus from HP to skill point and added to Intimidate.
Building is going slowly, but its going. I have RP sample, a trait, and a few miscenaleous things. Should be finished soon.
Alright, The List.
The Goblins!
Neutral Evil Male Alchemist (Fire Bomber): Gogmurch Dogroaster
Chaotic Neutral Male Barbarian (Feral Gnasher): Bricker
Chaotic Good Male Bard (Dawnflower Dervish): Brother Tochack
Chaotic Neutral Male Druid: Croakers
Male Druid (Pack Lord/Survivor): Garl Dogsbreath
True Neutral Female Druid: TeeFee
Neutral Evil Male Fighter: Grith
Lawful Neutral Male Monk (Zen Archer): Laszlo
Chaotic Neutral Male Battle Oracle: Stickymitts
Neutral Evil Female Witch (Gravewalker): Auntie Targa
Lawful Evil Male Wizard: Does Not Play Well With Others
True Neutral Male Wizard: Fartuk
Hopefully, I got everyone so far. :)
And a Kobold!
Neutral Evil Kobold Female Summoner (Master Summoner): Makena Sootscale
That's a fun bunch of applicants! I'm kind of surprised we don't have one rogue in the lot.
Basically, if I get selected from the game, we'll need to chat about what can and can't be done. If the Dragon feats will take far too long to acquire, I'll toss that idea and then reallocate his points a tiny bit (a point here or there) - since I'll no longer need a STR:15. There should be no change to any of my current skills, stats, combat rolls, etc.
This is just a heads-up in case I get selected.
"Everyone be happies, Chuffy joins you! Chuffy is chieftain of Licktoads, though they all deceased now, not Chuffy fault, was longshanks. Then chuffy became chief of Birdcrunchers and still is!" He points at his birdcruncher chieftain head. "Chuffy leads you into victories!"
A song eh? Hope it doesn't have to be long. I'm not a poet and I know it. Hmmm...
"Fires burn! Skins melt!
Dogs cook, flesh is smelt!
Here it comes! Look to the sky!
The fire burns! The blaze is high!
Flame lights, lights bright,
Burning town? Now that's a sight!"
"Bogsy wants to go too! Bogsy comes from big city. He part of thieves guild. When longshanks dont pay, Bogsy comes to visit. But people too scared of Bogsy so no balls to bust. Bogsy very talented with fighting longshanks, yes. Bogsy smash their balsies real good and they cry in pain and scared of Bogsy. Bogsy makes longshanks cry hard hahaha!"
"Bogsy smash! Bogsy crush!
Bogsy smash your balls to mush!
So much ouchies its will do!
When Bogsy clubs your eyeballs too!
Bogsy scarey! Bogsy smart!
Bogsy tortures you with his fart!
You will scream! You will cry!
Then maybe Bogsy lets you die!
A small, hideous repulsive and somewhat timid goblin crawls into the camp clearing.
"Snotgrub would also like to join your attack on the human village. I seek revenge against some there. Let me sing you a story."
You notice he speaks with extra words, all fancy and strange.
He grabs two rocks from the ground.
"Born a slave with a stupid name... I always got the whip*....whip*."
He cracks the two rocks together for emphasis with each uttering of 'whip'.
"Horse takes a poo, I get the blame...and the whip*....the whip*
Hard work or not, its all the same...the whip*...the whip*..
Then one day some humans came, killed the master, such a shame, HAHAH!
Set me free, gave me a new name. (Hi, I'm Charles, nice to meet you).
I lived with the monks and learned wrong from right.
Then some other monks came and there was a fight.
My friends all died, and I fled in the night.
The monastery burned, a sad but pretty sight."
The tempo slows and Snotgrub aka Charles, looks visibly distraught, clenching the rocks in his small hands, knuckles whitening.
"I'll get revenge on those other monks, and they'll feel the biiiiite..... of my whip*..my whip*..."
With the last bang of the rocks together, they shatter into smaller pieces, and Snotgrub fades back into the shadows, out of the campfire light.
*smack!*
Here's who I have at the moment. Let me know if I missed anything.
stormraven - Laszlo ‘Laz’ (Zen Archer) – remove 1 trait
Dakcenturi – Croakers (caster Druid) – I don't use Hero Points
Dark Netwerk – Gogmurch Dogroaster (Fire Bomber Alchemist) – fine
Adahn_Cielo – Brother Tochack (Dawnflower Dervish Bard) - fine
Choon – Stickymitts (maneuver-based Oracle/Barbarian/Rage Prophet) – in progress
D_Kal – Grith (vanilla Fighter) - add a drawback
TheNine – Doesn’t Play Well With Others (Evoker) – add a drawback
Ace of Spades – Fartuk (Fire School Wizard) – fine
Cuan – Auntie Targa (Gravewalker Witch) – fine
Peanuts – Makena Sootscale - in progress
Robert Henry – Bricker “Red Hat” (Feral Gnasher Barbarian) – fine
Kios – Garl Dogsbreath (Pack Lord Druid) - fine
jolly roger - Bogsy Ballbuster (Thug Rogue) – remove 1 trait and add a drawback
Cavetoad – Snotgrub (Maneuver Master) – fine
Cavetoad – Snotgrub (Maneuver Master) – 20pt buy, invalid feat (Exotic Weapon Proficiency requires BAB +1)
15point buy (Monks get 5 extra build points but will lose them if they attempt to exploit this)
*facepalm* Herp-a-durr, I forgot my own houserule. That's what happens when only two players submit Monks.
*facepalm* Herp-a-durr, I forgot my own houserule. That's what happens when only two players submit Monks.
"I has loner drawback, me not likes it when peoples stand nexts to me!
Buts I thought when gets drawback we gets 'nuther trait? So three in totals?
Otherwise I gets rids of trapfinders traits."
It's 1 trait + a drawback (so 2 traits total).
EDIT: I'm not seeing the drawback anywhere on your profile.
Updated to remove hero points
"Bogsy fixes it! When Bogsy knows he can smash longshanks balls?"