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Being the spiritual successor to Gods and Magic, it comes as no big surprise that Divine Mysteries is chock full of reprinted material.
What content changes or stealth errata have you noticed?
I was quite pleasantly surprised to see the endure spell get a huge boost. Its duration is now 1 minute instead of 1 round.
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Edit: Endure also lost the mental trait, allowing it to affect more targets. The increased duration takes it from mostly useless to a situationally useful option.
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A one action pat on the back for 5 temporary hot points/rank is rather nice when it ladts a full minute. One change I noticed is that the Revised version of the Pacts witch patron's hex from Dark Archive had Rank x d4 mental damage added, which is nice for a one action cantrip that also debuffs attack and damage rolls.
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Cloak of light (originally from Pathfinder #172: Secrets of the Temple City) has had a rather substantial increase in healing and damage; from 2d4 to 4d6. The heightened healing rate has also more than doubled from 1d4 per two ranks to 2d6 per two ranks.
Its duration has also increased from 5 rounds to 1 minute. That takes its base healing for the whole party from 10d4 to 40d6! That's nearly three times the average healing of a single-target two-action heal of the same rank!
On the flip side, undead in the area now get a basic Fortitude save against the vitality damage (previously it was no save).
Befuddle got added to Occult giving the debuff extending Witch a huge level 1 combo.
Agitate got added to Arcane Fighters will appreciate Wizards who cast it.
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Agitate was already an Arcane spell.Agitate got added to Arcane Fighters will appreciate Wizards who cast it.
I must have just mind blanked that. Then again I ignored most Gods and Magic spells.
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** spoiler omitted **Does she appear in the supplemental table? Because if yes then its just matter of space, if no, then that raises eyebrow.
Nope, no sign of her...I suspect it might be because of what she's the goddess OF, and the risk of portraying that as glamorous or romantic...
Befuddle got added to Occult giving the debuff extending Witch a huge level 1 combo.
Damn. That's one more arcane-only spell gone—and one of the most relevant ones, too.
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Nope, no sign of her...I suspect it might be because of what she's the goddess OF, and the risk of portraying that as glamorous or romantic...** spoiler omitted **Does she appear in the supplemental table? Because if yes then its just matter of space, if no, then that raises eyebrow.
It kinda seems like they could have just emphasized her nature as goddess of tragedy and grief, if they really did remove her completely that seems confusing.
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Oof, Syncretism is a big loss. I don't know about the power level one way or the other, but it was a huge win in worldbuilding terms and representing real world religious practices. It'll still be legal in PFS unless it's called out specifically, but it's still a shame.
I suspect the sorcerer feat Blessed Blood may also have gone unreprinted, which is also a pity.
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Oof, Syncretism is a big loss. I don't know about the power level one way or the other, but it was a huge win in worldbuilding terms and representing real world religious practices. It'll still be legal in PFS unless it's called out specifically, but it's still a shame.
I suspect the sorcerer feat Blessed Blood may also have gone unreprinted, which is also a pity.
EXACTLY! I don't care about the power level, I wanna do the Pathfinder equivalent of Serapis or Hermanubis! Like a kobold worshiping some kind of Iomedapsu figure inspired by Peace through Vigilance, or a Desnan who treats her and Black Butterfly as a singular dualistic entity! This ****'s cool!
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It kinda seems like they could have just emphasized her nature as goddess of tragedy and grief, if they really did remove her completely that seems confusing.Nope, no sign of her...I suspect it might be because of what she's the goddess OF, and the risk of portraying that as glamorous or romantic...** spoiler omitted **Does she appear in the supplemental table? Because if yes then its just matter of space, if no, then that raises eyebrow.
I would imagine it's a removal in the way the owlbears were removed. They're still there - but they won't be mentioned ever again.
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I know for a fact that Tiamat got removed for a simple reason: the removal of OGL content.
Because, while D&D did not invent Tiamat (who is the Mesopotamian primordial embodiment of the sea), they did invent Tiamat as the Five-headed Goddess Dragon.
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Any changes to Soul domain?
Ectoplasmic Interstice is a burst instead of an emanation. All else looked about the same.
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** spoiler omitted **I know for a fact that Tiamat got removed for a simple reason: the removal of OGL content.
Because, while D&D did not invent Tiamat (who is the Mesopotamian primordial embodiment of the sea), they did invent Tiamat as the Five-headed Goddess Dragon.
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To expand on this: Paizo's Tiamat was never five-headed. They didn't copy D&D Tiamat. She was always very much in the background, because they never figured out how to differentiate their Tiamat from the D&D version. They did change things because of the association. They'd have been fine to keep the name, but played it safe because D&D has so fully staked out Tiamat in the TTRPG scene.
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Uirch, one of the newly ascended Orc gods, has taken Torag's place in the Talon of the Godclaw. Appatently the two are quite close, having privately collaborated during Uirch's mortal life. Torag also served as Uirch's second during his crucible, and Uirch returned the favor by saving Torag's life when the latter was attacked by a vengeful Grask Uldeth. This revelation is apparently somewhat controversial for both Dwarves and Orcs.
Oh cool. im going to read more on the talon of the godclaw part and see how it fits into my current campaign
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Nope, no sign of her...I suspect it might be because of what she's the goddess OF, and the risk of portraying that as glamorous or romantic...** spoiler omitted **Does she appear in the supplemental table? Because if yes then its just matter of space, if no, then that raises eyebrow.
Naderi is in the table... right after Milani.
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It kinda seems like they could have just emphasized her nature as goddess of tragedy and grief, if they really did remove her completely that seems confusing.Nope, no sign of her...I suspect it might be because of what she's the goddess OF, and the risk of portraying that as glamorous or romantic...** spoiler omitted **Does she appear in the supplemental table? Because if yes then its just matter of space, if no, then that raises eyebrow.
Naderi is in there.
Naderi is in there.It kinda seems like they could have just emphasized her nature as goddess of tragedy and grief, if they really did remove her completely that seems confusing.Nope, no sign of her...I suspect it might be because of what she's the goddess OF, and the risk of portraying that as glamorous or romantic...** spoiler omitted **Does she appear in the supplemental table? Because if yes then its just matter of space, if no, then that raises eyebrow.
Which page?
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Which page?Naderi is in there.It kinda seems like they could have just emphasized her nature as goddess of tragedy and grief, if they really did remove her completely that seems confusing.Nope, no sign of her...I suspect it might be because of what she's the goddess OF, and the risk of portraying that as glamorous or romantic...** spoiler omitted **Does she appear in the supplemental table? Because if yes then its just matter of space, if no, then that raises eyebrow.
I'm assuming they mean the web supplemental table that only the subscribers got early and we haven't seen final version of it on public yet? But now I'm confused with mixed info
I'm assuming they mean the web supplemental table that only the subscribers got early and we haven't seen final version of it on public yet? But now I'm confused with mixed infoWhich page?Naderi is in there.It kinda seems like they could have just emphasized her nature as goddess of tragedy and grief, if they really did remove her completely that seems confusing.Nope, no sign of her...I suspect it might be because of what she's the goddess OF, and the risk of portraying that as glamorous or romantic...** spoiler omitted **Does she appear in the supplemental table? Because if yes then its just matter of space, if no, then that raises eyebrow.
I'm a subscriber, and this is the first I've heard of that. Where exactly is it?
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I assume no longer anywhere, since it was neither in single chapter or chapter by file download. One person I asked said it was in their file download. I'm annoyed at this point since I can't tell if people are trolling me or not x'D But I've seen enough people claim it that I'm assuming that maybe some subscribers got it accidentally then they took file away from file upload or something. I have no clue at this point
Neither Milani nor Naderi are in the supplemental table.Naderi is in the table... right after Milani.Nope, no sign of her...I suspect it might be because of what she's the goddess OF, and the risk of portraying that as glamorous or romantic...** spoiler omitted **Does she appear in the supplemental table? Because if yes then its just matter of space, if no, then that raises eyebrow.
They are in the Nexus version. I haven't downloaded the pdf yet.
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Any of the old Azlanti gods mentioned at all? (Thinking specificly the evil female one who kind of game me bane vibes but for the life of me cant remember the name of at the moment.)
There's four pages on the Azlanti gods. Each gets a few paragraphs.
I'm assuming they mean the web supplemental table that only the subscribers got early and we haven't seen final version of it on public yet? But now I'm confused with mixed infoWhich page?Naderi is in there.It kinda seems like they could have just emphasized her nature as goddess of tragedy and grief, if they really did remove her completely that seems confusing.Nope, no sign of her...I suspect it might be because of what she's the goddess OF, and the risk of portraying that as glamorous or romantic...** spoiler omitted **Does she appear in the supplemental table? Because if yes then its just matter of space, if no, then that raises eyebrow.
That must be it because I see Milani, Naderi, and others in the Nexus version of Divine Mysteries... but I just downloaded the pdf, and they are not in that.
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Can anyone link to or export the nexus supplement? Does anyone have a link/copy that can be shared. Note if its part of purchase just say so, not trying to request pay for content, but in the past online supplementals were not part of purchase and were issued for free.
The Nexus version of Divine Mysteries is a bit extra cost.. though if you have the Paizo pdf you pay less than if you do not. If you purchase books at Nexus,you get the pdf as well.
That said, you can find the info from the table on this link as well. https://app.demiplane.com/nexus/pathfinder2e/deities or specifically https://app.demiplane.com/nexus/pathfinder2e/deities/naderi-rm and https://app.demiplane.com/nexus/pathfinder2e/deities/milani-rm
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I don't have divine mysteries on demiplane and I was able to see link to Naderi you posted .-. Turns out you can witness deities list without book I guess? I'm slightly confused
(Either way its handy, I can now update my PFS Damerrich champion without needing to wait web supplemental table to be out xD)
(nexus seems to have missed book had two versions of Lissala, the ancient version and modern version. Ancient version allows both holy and unholy and modern only unholy)
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I don't have divine mysteries on demiplane and I was able to see link to Naderi you posted .-. Turns out you can witness deities list without book I guess? I'm slightly confused
(Either way its handy, I can now update my PFS Damerrich champion without needing to wait web supplemental table to be out xD)
(nexus seems to have missed book had two versions of Lissala, the ancient version and modern version)
Yep... some data is free like on AoN.
I will them know about Lissala's second.
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Uirch, one of the newly ascended Orc gods, has taken Torag's place in the Talon of the Godclaw. Appatently the two are quite close, having privately collaborated during Uirch's mortal life. Torag also served as Uirch's second during his crucible, and Uirch returned the favor by saving Torag's life when the latter was attacked by a vengeful Grask Uldeth. This revelation is apparently somewhat controversial for both Dwarves and Orcs.
And completely out of nowhere. Uirch is WELL documented over many PFS scenarios, and never had ANYTHING to do with dwarves. Teaming up with Sarenrae would make more sense, as he followed her in life. With all the revelations about Torag being kinda s**ty in Sky King's Tomb, maybe he's trying to redeam Torag, but it's a weird thing to add in.
As to joining Godclaw... WTF? Uirch is super CG. I know we're not using alignment anymore, but there's no way he would fit along side the regimentation of the hellknights.
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This is actually pretty thoroughly explained in Divine Mysteries. Maybe wait to read it before passing judgement.
Oh, I have. It's a nice story that goes good to improve Torag's image after it was tarnished in Sky King's Tomb. And improve relations between dwarves and orcs. It still comes out of nowhere and has no support in any of the previous Urich material.
I also talked with the author who WROTE Urich in the scenarios, who agreed this felt unsupported. She's the one who pointed out the godclaw problem to me.
It's not that it's a bad move, and teaming up with Torag isn't even out-of-character. It's just out of left field with nothing to hint at it from his prior portrayals.