I am looking to make some Smurfs, but short of just making a race, what options do I have?
Is the Blue race from Psionics Unleashed legit?
Smurfs were originally related to Elves... only blue, and just three apples tall. Mostly male, as Changelings are mostly female. Long-lived like Elves.
Small is perfectly acceptable, I am not looking for any size-related shenanigans. And I am hoping to avoid 3rd party/homebrew.
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Samsarans and some members of elemental races (undine, maybe oread or sylph) may be blue. Gathlains are fey (so whatever colour), small and at least some don't have wings.
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I was thinking Gathlain, because Fey... but the whole plant thing is hard to work around. Sure, they are Fey, and even Fey plant-people can look like Smurfs. Fey are allowed to be inexplicably strange.
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Just reskin Gnomes and call it a day. Heck, allow any small race considering the diversity amongst Smurfs. Just no tails.
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Just reskin Gnomes and call it a day. Heck, allow any small race considering the diversity amongst Smurfs. Just no tails.
I like this. Anything can be blue and look plus-or-minus like a Smurf. Sometimes the easiest solutions are the best.
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Smurfs seem like tiny sized creatures. They don't really have powers other than being fast and hard to find. They're really thick headed, with much of the comedy focused on their obliviousness.
I'd take a svirfneblin, shrink them by a size, raise their speed to 40ft, remove their racial hatred, darkvision, stone cunning, and underground bonuses and replace them with forest stealth bonuses and low light vision.
Sorry I've just always wanted to try this. Smurf
Smurfs seem like tiny sized creatures.
Pathfinder kind of breaks when you get down to tiny size. The default reach being 0 ft is bad. There is no such thing as finding equipment in your size. Carrying things is a nightmare. Anything that does a hit+grab is going to end you even if you are a full BAB class.
Small is basically medium size with a few trade offs. The basics of reach and occupying squares is the same as medium sized, mostly because it would make life difficult if it was as different as tiny sized.
All valid points, but smurfs do seem pretty prone to getting grabbed, and don't seem like they'd be good in a fight. Tiny may even be too big for them since they are much smaller than Azrael the cat
Smurfs seem like tiny sized creatures.Pathfinder kind of breaks when you get down to tiny size. The default reach being 0 ft is bad.
Yeah, but there are builds where that works okay.
There is no such thing as finding equipment in your size.
Pathfinder campaigns where it is the norm to have items made for you rather than just use what you find are not uncommon, but you have a point.
Carrying things is a nightmare.
Only at low levels, and remember this will be offset by the fact that the gear you equip yourself with with be likewise lighter.
Anything that does a hit+grab is going to end you even if you are a full BAB class.
Yeah, I had a Halfling Fighter who got Swallowed Whole and cut his way out like a half-dozen times. The Party called him The Bad Shrimp!
I was thinking it would be fairly hilarious to make a Size Small, or Tiny! Grappling Build. You take Agile Maneuvers and use your greater Dex instead of your lesser Strength. The Size Mod to Combat Maneuvers is only -2 for Size Tiny, and there are lots of ways to get your Grapple Mod stoopud high. I had a Grappler character with a full time +30 Grapple Mod at level 9.
I can think of few things more awesome than Rowdy Roddy Smurf humiliating and dominating an Ancient Black Dragon in a wrestling match!
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Don't know how rules legal is would be, but you might re-skin the Mites. Maybe those little blue mushroom dwellers are the "good" Mites. I would say that size wise, these are closer to diminutive, maybe even Fine size. I started a thread or two on that idea, but I don't know that I'd personally want to ever play a Smurf . . . . . . .
Ah! Smurf it all to smurfing Smurf! I can't believe I said smurfing Smurf! For the love of Smurf! . . . . . .
:p
Nope. It's a program feature of the boards themselves. I don't normally have a profile pic (no tech savvy enough to figure it out). Any post where you use the word "Smurf", will automatically change your pic for just that post to a smurf. Give it a try. It is rather amusing.
Side note: Does anybody know of any other gimmick on the boards like this one?
I wonder . . . . . . .
Smerf
Smirf
Smurph
What the smurf?
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Don't know how rules legal is would be, but you might re-skin the Mites. Maybe those little blue mushroom dwellers are the "good" Mites. I would say that size wise, these are closer to diminutive, maybe even Fine size. I started a thread or two on that idea, but I don't know that I'd personally want to ever play a Smurf . . . . . . .
Ah! Smurf it all to smurfing Smurf! I can't believe I said smurfing Smurf! For the love of Smurf! . . . . . .
:p
Mites are actually what got me started on this. I love those little guys. But the only playable Mite race is third party... then I found Blues from Psionics Unleashed, but Dreamscarred Press isn't Paizo, either. Not that I care all THAT much, but I would like to at least try keep it official.
Otherwise I would just make my own version of Smurfs...
So far, I am really liking the idea of any Small race being used, just in this party, you are blue and we call you Smurfs. The Halfling "Smurf" looks nothing like other Halflings we meet... same with the Gathlain "Smurf" or the Gnome "Smurf". Once you choose your Small race, it becomes a Smurf for you... all the others of that race remain unchanged. Only the characters in the party would be Smurfs.
There will not be a single Smurf NPC. They will never meet another Smurf outisde of the party. Given that there are only ~100 of them in total, and ~5% of the ENTIRE Smurf population has formed a party to go off adventuring... little Smurf village cannot afford to lose any more of thier population.
Is it wrong that I'm channeling Gargamel a little bit?
Not trying to tromp on your fun, but with the numbers you just put up, I'm cackling a little bit at the idea of a Smurf "genocide". . . . .
Is there a Smurf world hell?
The main reason behind all of this is so I can make/play Gargamel. Lol.
And if the party doesn't put an end to my nefarious operation, then Smurf genocide is imminent... batch by batch, they will be fed into my contraption to be leeched of every last drop of magic in them... and Gargamel gets a Mystic Tier for each batch consumed.
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Is it wrong that I'm channeling Gargamel a little bit?
Not trying to tromp on your fun, but with the numbers you just put up, I'm cackling a little bit at the idea of a Smurf "genocide". . . . .
Is there a Smurf world hell?
You mean like this?
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Just reskin Gnomes and call it a day. Heck, allow any small race considering the diversity amongst Smurfs. Just no tails.
This would be my recommendation as well. Take a gnome, make them tiny, add in an ability about being a magic item component in some dark rite, and you've pretty much got them.
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What about Wayangs? They're grey/blue-skinned, apparently have a proclivity for weird headwear, and are indeed pretty good at stealth. Check the PFS adventure "To Seal the Shadow" for more info about them.
I'm not sure Smurfs should be legal at all...
If svirfneblins were PFS-legal, my wife would have built one by now to be as Smurf-like as possible. "The svirfiest svirf that ever svirfed!"
Hm. Looking at the various races on archives, you can either flavor gnomes or go with svirfneblins to make Smurfs.
Huh. It really DOES auto-change the picture when you say that word.
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Living construct Poppets
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What about Wayangs?
Reskinning them would make them sweefs.
Yes, of course, poppets... my beloved little mandrakes... oh, how they scream... it is music to my ears.
100 Smurfs, that means I will need at least 300 bats a day, for 30 days, so like 9000 bats, and a whole lot of milk... not impossible, but exhausting.