Another thing I’ve noticed is that, in the bottom right of the page, just below the ‘all messageboards’ link, there’s a drop-down menu that doesn’t actually do anything and is just empty.
I dont care for the new design at all.
Sometimes when the page loads up on my laptop, I get narrow margins. Sometimes I get wide margins, like it's leaving space for the sidebars (and look! there's the shopping cart box!). And on the desktop, there are no margins; the text box stretches all the way from one side of the screen to the other.
Using Chrome in all cases.
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I just have to say, it seems like the new website design could have benefited from the renowned Paizo Playtest Philosphy, and given notice and gotten feedback from the community as a whole. Testing in production... not the way to do things.
That blog Chris mentioned putting up about all the hard work that went into the new site would have been much more useful a month ago than a week from now.
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So I intentionally took a few days to let things settle in, but now I feel compelled to write:
Decide upon the look and functioning of (a building, garment, or other object)...
In the software industry, we apply a very simple rule: The new UX design must be at least as easy to use as the previous implementation. If not, it must be rejected, no matter its appearance.
So, I could try to do a click-by-click analysis, but in general:
In short, I find the site so unpleasant to try to navigate that I don't bother any more. If it's not on the messageboards or the PRD, I don't go there.
This isn't what you want from a site redesign. Functionality needs to take precedence over form.
The landing page for the archive of Faction Talk isn't displaying the threads correctly
The links to each faction are functioning, and when you get to those subforums, the threads show.
But the main page doesn't display any threads. Only the pagination header and footer. Page links don't show any threads either.
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If there is Thread, we need to wake the dragons.
Gosh they were great books. Haven’t thought about them in years!
Not a fan of the visual updates so far. Using Chrome on a 10 inch android tablet, the font used is too big for my comfort, and just browsing through the update feedback threads has left me with sore eyes already, though I don't know if that's the size, colour and brightness, or the legibility of the font itself.
I'll hold off commenting on the technical side of the usability until some of the bugs are squished.
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The new site is very pretty!
But terrible to use.
So I intentionally took a few days to let things settle in, but now I feel compelled to write:
Decide upon the look and functioning of (a building, garment, or other object)...In the software industry, we apply a very simple rule: The new UX design must be at least as easy to use as the previous implementation. If not, it must be rejected, no matter its appearance.
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I WISH the software industry obeyed that rule . . . .
Still absolutely hating the Microsoft Office 2007/2010/2013/etc. ribbon interface and various usability downgrades in Windows 7(*) . . . .
(*)Where I work they just started migrating to Windows 10 a few months ago.
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Still absolutely hating the Microsoft Office 2007/2010/2013/etc. ribbon interface and various usability downgrades in Windows 7(*) . . . .
Want to guess which participant in this conversation still uses Office 2003 on his home production machine? <Grin>
Every month, Windows Updates does something fatal to the Office Compatibility Pack which allows Office 2003 to open DOCX modern format files, and every month I get to repair it. But the menus are still faster than screwing around with the ribbon. And yes, I can compare, because I use newer office versions on both my work computer and laptop, and have for years.
So I intentionally took a few days to let things settle in, but now I feel compelled to write:
Decide upon the look and functioning of (a building, garment, or other object)...In the software industry, we apply a very simple rule: The new UX design must be at least as easy to use as the previous implementation. If not, it must be rejected, no matter its appearance.
{. . .}I WISH the software industry obeyed that rule . . . .
Still absolutely hating the Microsoft Office 2007/2010/2013/etc. ribbon interface and various usability downgrades in Windows 7(*) . . . .
(*)Where I work they just started migrating to Windows 10 a few months ago.
You seem to be under the bizarre affliction that Microsoft produces "software".
Personally, I believe it's some kind of torture system created in the mind of Cosmo...
Ah, cool- Paizo blogs are on the front page now, so I have a reason to visit it.
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I tried to reach the page for the Pathfinder Society Roleplaying Guild Adventures and was redirected to the main page. This did not happen with Starfinder Society.
I was at the Pathfinder Society Roleplaying Guild Guide but could not reach Adventures on the first page.
I like the new look. The black font looked sharp, if only if it was more readable.
The black banner up top is the only remaining aesthetic at first glance -- it's too dark and tries to drag in the eyes, which makes it hard to read the rest of the site.
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The 2 biggest issue for me that I pray gets resolved asap are:
1 - All the thread titles are still crammed together with no space between them. I makes the forums very tough to read and, honestly, I've been more or less avoiding them until this is fixed.
2 - Still no visible PM notification on the home page like there used to be
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The 2 biggest issue for me that I pray gets resolved asap are:
1 - All the thread titles are still crammed together with no space between them. I makes the forums very tough to read and, honestly, I've been more or less avoiding them until this is fixed.
2 - Still no visible PM notification on the home page like there used to be
I'm not seeing #1. What browser and what operating system do you use?
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I'm not seeing #1. What browser and what operating system do you use?The 2 biggest issue for me that I pray gets resolved asap are:
1 - All the thread titles are still crammed together with no space between them. I makes the forums very tough to read and, honestly, I've been more or less avoiding them until this is fixed.
2 - Still no visible PM notification on the home page like there used to be
Also, what URL are you looking at?
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Also, what URL are you looking at?I'm not seeing #1. What browser and what operating system do you use?The 2 biggest issue for me that I pray gets resolved asap are:
1 - All the thread titles are still crammed together with no space between them. I makes the forums very tough to read and, honestly, I've been more or less avoiding them until this is fixed.
2 - Still no visible PM notification on the home page like there used to be
Using Chrome, looking at the main forums list (http://paizo.com/community/forums)
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1 - All the thread titles are still crammed together with no space between them. I makes the forums very tough to read and, honestly, I've been more or less avoiding them until this is fixed.Using Chrome, looking at the main forums list (http://paizo.com/community/forums)
Could you please link us a screenshot, and include the version of Chrome and the operating system you're running? I'm having trouble reproducing this issue.
Here's a screenshot of what I see on a Windows 10 PC running Chrome 64.0.3282.186 on that URL: screenshot.
Can you explain the differences between what you see and what I see, Mark?
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Here's a screenshot of what I see on a Windows 10 PC running Chrome 64.0.3282.186 on that URL: screenshot.
Can you explain the differences between what you see and what I see, Marc?
Yep, that's what I see.
Notice how all the threads in the Product Discussion are crammed together, with no space between them? The old forum layout had space between each thread so the eye can easily distinguish them (which is really just basic layout / typography 101). For example, there should be space between Stephen Radney-MacFarlands name (under the Flip Tiles:Forest Starter Set and the next thread - Adventure Path 127:Crownfall.So, it should be this:
Paizo Inc. Flip Tiles:Forest Starter Set
Last post 55 minutes ago by Stephen Radney-MacFarland
Paizo Inc. Adventure Path 127:Crownfall
Not this:
Paizo Inc. Flip Tiles:Forest Starter Set
Last post 55 minutes ago by Stephen Radney-MacFarland
Paizo Inc. Adventure Path 127:Crownfall
As I said, the old forum layout had the nice space between threads, while the new one does not ...
Strangely, some threads I've posted in mark my own post as being 1 new post for that thread.
So I intentionally took a few days to let things settle in, but now I feel compelled to write:
The PRD: Outside of the forums, my main use for the site is the PRD. Once again, it took me two tries to find it because "Pathfinder > Roleplaying Game > Rulebooks" sounds like the correct path but isn't.
where did you find the PRD?
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It's not consistently linked, so the best way I've found to get to it is to click on the word Paizo at the top of any page (under the golem image), then click on the Pathfinder menu, which will bring up the dropdown menu list, and select Online Rules.
Top menu row: Pathfinder
On new page,menu row just below search box: Roleplaying game (for dropdown menu)
From dropdown menu: Online Rulebooks
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Everyone,
We very much appreciate your feedback on the site. We are taking meticulous notes and making corrections as fast as possible each day. Please keep in mind some changes have a higher priority and will be fixed sooner than others.
Thank you very much for your patience,
Dean
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If you consider the number of moving parts and the team of what, six?
It’s really going pretty smoothly. Kudos to you clever IT folk.
I don't know if this is an actual bug, but I can't find a link to my "My Subscriptions" page on the account drop-down, nor any of the subsections therein, as far as I can see.
I was able to get to it using the search function, however, so at least I have that going for me, which is nice.
I got to it by going to "Account Settings" and then clicking on "Manage Subscriptions". That is a rather convoluted way to get to it, but it is the only way I know of at present.
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Bug report
While downloading a number of files today from my account, I encountered the following error every 5 or 6 downloads. I would click on the link to personalize, download the file, and move on to another file.
"Re-enter Store. You backtracked too far. The application backtracking limit of 30 has been exceeded."
Once I get this, I have to exit completely and restart the Paizo site.
Thanks!
[Windows 10 Home 1709, Chrome 64.0.3282.186]
That is very bold. I like it.
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PM notifications are BACK!
There's a little red dot at the top right of the 'My Account' icon when you have a new one.
Thanks team!
Bug
If I take too long editting a profile, I get an error about backtracking too far (same one mentioned 5 posts up). Not really new, though it used to take you to the front page or somewhere, but now the time limit is really short and gives the error.
Of course, if you could make it not delete form info for an error, that'd be awesome, but I'm not sure why or when it gets deleted (though other sites can keep the form info filled if you need to backtrack so I know it is at least possible in some conditions).
My aliases are gone from my profile.
Clicked: My Account -> My Profile
Showed my main profile with all the tabs
Clicked: Aliases
Got two headers, organized play and regukar (paraphrased)
But both caregories were empty. I tried tapping, but nothing happened. (please don't make me tap).
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My aliases are gone from my profile.
Clicked: My Account -> My Profile
Showed my main profile with all the tabs
Clicked: Aliases
Got two headers, organized play and regukar (paraphrased)But both caregories were empty. I tried tapping, but nothing happened. (please don't make me tap).
Taking a look into it right now. I'm able to see them on my end, I'll try and find out how they're getting lost.
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Hey folks, the team was able to push the fixes earlier today to address some of our most frequently heard issues (missing tabs, PM notifications, missing bold fonts in certain browsers, and starting new product threads). At this point, I know folks are probably getting focused on our other big announcement, but I want to assure you that we are still chugging along at ways to improve the site.
In the immediate future, our new frontend developer Andrew and I are taking a hard look at specifically the navigation elements. There are aspects of how it's built that need some fine-tuning, some styling revisions, and a tad more future-proofing that I'd like to see.
We are aware of some straggling missing content. Specifically this afternoon, you'll see the store categories begin to normalize.